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-1 Test Vs Tren

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God Created all beasts with Testosterone in their blood. the only difference is total free testosterone (Muscle Builder). In the beast's body(Like American Bison) the total free testosterone is 100 times the Human Body. Well their body produces hormones and enzymes to turn this into free testosterone. What is it? I wish I knew. in fact their vegetarian protein and calorie intake is a lot higher and they eat 3-4% of their body weight everyday. 2000lb bison eats 200-300 pounds everyday. How do I know this, my Neighbor has 20 Bison and I leave next door. Testosterone Concentration upon puberty is 492 μg/100g
http://media.wix.com/ugd/51d717_550e231a953375de6dab303d6d20b41b.pdf

Mg for Mg if you can turn Test to Free test in human body then Tren has no place and test is the king.

Unfortunately when we use test we only use 60-70 % of it. 10 % will turn into DHT and the rest turns into estrogen. I believe test suspension is way stronger than Tren. I am saying this from personal experience the problem arises when it aromatizes so heavily.

Test Suspension hands down is the best strength and size builder. No ester and fast acting. Use Mast and Proviron to turn you test into free Test and stopping it from binding to SHBG. That's when you build pure muscle and strength.

In conclusion I am not saying Tren is better than test or test is better than tren. I believe in Test all my life and continue using test for the rest. I have seen lots of folks with kidney failures, enlarge hearts and other problems using tren over a short period of time.

Test Wins for me. Tren has to much health risk. It was simply made for cattles and not human body.

I used tren myself many times but never liked waking up in pool of my sweat and HB pressure.
Test does not do that to me

j223's picture

I use tren all the time love it but I still think test is the ultimate bulker. Tren can not put more mass on than test. The combo is nice though =)

Dickkhead's picture

No negative feedback. Hmmmm. HHHHMMMM I'll try.

Catchy Title Definitely: Test vs. Tren - is this like I have a new choice in base hormone? I should be thinking about building my next cycle around Trenbolone X instead of Testosterone Z?

I don't know what is compelling me to respond - it's like rubber necking as we slowly go by a car wreck. So, u have never used Tren (it's hard to tell the way u wrote) but dang - over a short period of time - you know folks with organ failure. Really. It is true that Tren has unique nasty potentially health damaging sides which is why EROIDS position is that we don't encourage it's use in men who are solid candidates to begin AAS use but are just starting out.

If the purpose of what u wrote is to say u can get great results without Tren. I agree. BUT . . .

Bro, I'm an old geezer, and I use Tren - I like it on both a bulk and cut - there ain't nothing quite like it. I would have been more moved if you told me your personal horror stories with Tren. If you told me your hair fell out in the first week - you got gyno or just something personal . . . u didn't sleep for a week and while backing out of your driveway u ran over your neighbor's pink lawn flamingos . . .or that your facts were impeccably straight. Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate was designed and made for people and continued to be produced by a French pharmaceutical company (not some UGL) up until as recently as 1997.

TNE (suspension) is the best mass builder? Really? Please send a picture. If you're a mass monster from suspension - I'm all in. Why even waste time with all these perilous compounds? I'm not that proud. Maybe I've been doing it all wrong . . . Mast for me has been nothing more than a pre contest dry out drug - but perhaps u have discovered an amazing new use? Finally, on the practical side - I'm just trying to imagine driving over to the gym everyday with a pre-loaded syringe of suspension. I suppose I could go into the locker room in the handicapped stall and pin it there?? Hmmm.

Was that too negative???

300aac7's picture

do you know Tom Prince? Good Friend of mine, lost both kidneys and a kidney transplant because of Tren. Flex Wheeler and Levrone both heavy Tren Users. I did not say test is the ultimate but side to benefits wins over Tren and if you can suppress aromatization and DHT conversion it will be one of the best mass builders

Dickkhead's picture

Bro, first, I was having a little fun at your expense in reaction to "no negative comments." There is nothing I said I want to take back but my tone was, admittedly, slightly sarcastic. OK, I said it. Smile

Trenbolone is particularly nasty in terms of potential adverse health effects. I applaud your decision not to use it! I take it at my own risk and the only thing that I do is to get labs on a regular basis to see how steroids are affecting me - all the ones I use, not just Tren. Bro, the article just mystifies me. And I am going to be as clear as I can be as to why. Technically, I'm not certain that suspension is even a "steroid." The whole arsenal of anabolic steroids was developed by manipulating Testosterone to enhance its anabolic properties and in most cases to diminish its androgenic properties. To call Test an alternative to Tren or any other compound is basically saying don't use any steroids and then you go on to talk about Masteron, etc. The whole thesis of your article needs MASSIVE rework and rethought. IMHO. Why are you offering us theories? There are a few real life experts at EROIDS that are conducting experiments with certain compounds. Their real life results will be useful to the whole community of users. I don't play around with this shit, bro. And, I'm certainly not going to design my next cycle around anyone's theories. BTW, I have pinned suspension just before working out while on the tale end of a keto diet just for some kind of "kick." I liked it. But I work out 7 days a week and I am bad enough as a pin cushion already I don't need any more ED pins. Moreover, like with any water based product - u better know your lab. I know some folk that pinned contaminated suspension and got real sick - MRSA and the guy was antibiotic resistant for other reasons and it spread - thank God it ended well for him. If you think you can do roids long term and if you just avoid some of the harsher ones like Tren and all will be well - guess again! IMHO

300aac7's picture

good response

HllwdBdBoy's picture

Opinions are welcome but no negative feedback please

You are just asking for a beating with this, eroids is a place where we openly discuss without censorship (within reason) so trying to hinder anyone from speaking their mind is going to bring them in in droves bro

300aac7's picture

never do not just give me negative feed back because you like tren over test or the other. that's all.

HllwdBdBoy's picture

you are not listening! you cannot dictate what kind of feedback you want or get! and by trying to dictate what kind of feedback you want makes you look like a tool... as you can see members are just passing you by which is a bigger slap than if they came in to blast you

300aac7's picture

Keep on taking Tren until you balls come out your mouth

I do not care anymore

300aac7's picture

I deleted that part

Let it go

got the point