posted Thu, 11/15/2012 - 08:31
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a friend of mine had his first pin on thurs 250mg testoviron depot and landed up in the hospital cus of high bp on sunday. he is 5'10" 95kg body fat 20% 36 yrs old.
now i have a very important question. HOW DO U ASSES UR TOLERANCE TO TESt???
im about to start my cycle in dec. got me a lil worried. should i start off by 100 mg and see how it goes and up it 500mg????
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It could definitely be related to the test...it could of been related to bacteria on the skin during that single injection...could be oil allergy...if you have any doubt about validity and quaility of your gear..find new stuff
Allergic reactions cause LOWER Bp. Learned that first day as EMT.
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/allergic_reaction/page3_em.htm
Knew you were EMT..better lose that in nursing school!.lastly not always^
REAL causes for Bp
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/high_blood_pressure/page2_em.htm
http://ahdc.vet.cornell.edu/clinpath/modules/chem/sodium.htm
High water intake flushes system. Along with diuretics. Along with reducing Estrogen related hypertension/edema with your AI.
Sure with diuretics ..agree...but whats flushing do with BP...massive amts of water raise blood pressure..simply by the rise in blood volumn
Estrogen related HTN and edema and lots of water=do not mix
Not trying to argue..just call it different standards of practice..mine are obviously not focused so much on "first response " as I am on abnormalities and emergency type situations ..actually you full of ish..look at every statement you leave a link...mine from my head bro...all facts from IRL ...fuc it..out anything medical or pharma....ill run circles like I did and do in class/clinical/practice/Life...Im sorry just you are a contradiction to yourself...i mean you spoke about drinking water to lower BP....which is wrong..then say bout..addingan AI and diuretic to the water to lower bp..WTF...have you ever pushed diuretics. And aggressive IV fluid administration ...and monitoring vitals....YOU HAVE NOT..otherwise your ideas would be real thing ..not from a book or website ....
Okay give me a related to nursing diagnosis ...an "risk for" nursing diagnosis only correctly formed
"Hypertension in client r/t anabolic steriod injection secondary by allergic reaction as manifested by episode of hypertension requires hospital stay."
Ahhhh! I remember you now! You're the nurse who couldn't fill out the charts properly! Ya see, if ya cant properly fill out a cycle log with correct numbers/dosages and times of dosing....you lose your job. Good thing i caught those errors for you and fixed your cycle log.
Eat big and grow well!
Also lose the emedicinehealth....
Use epocrates or pubmed..if you MUST resort to online..NON journal from accredited bodies...
Esp in nursing school..only use knowledge from accredited bodiess..fuuccc all else!
Thats gotta be his history and he should NOT have cycled before bloods, bp checked. 20% bf was his risk....test wont kick in for several Weeks. You'd bettet be researching EVERYTHING if you-yourself did not know this answer!!
BOOOOOM!... on the money with the BF... my first thought bro
The silent killer. You watched me battle a few spouts of bp while cutting. Super strict foods and no salt or whammo!
i know 20% was a risk and told him to lose the damn fat. he says he had injected and ran a cycle before wid same body fat %!!!!
he has had no bp issues til now.
Im in nursing school. 250 test in 4 days? Nope! Thats a pre-existing condition. High sodium and poor life choices. Hell...a line a crank woulda boisted his bp. Pre existing.....life caught his ass.
I was on some crank forums earlier and them damned health nazis kept telling me to lower my bf to 12% before skieng them slopes. Now I see you cant run test at high BF either? WTF man. Next thing you know they going to tell my on the Hostess twinkies forum to not run a 4 pack until I get my body fat down...
Last thing I want is advice here. Just leave me to pinning my twinkies with tren, then grinding them, then snorting them. Or shit should I have asked for stats before revealing that?
Twinkies factory went on strike. Dont shoot! Lmao!
okay. so ur sayiny its definitly not the test. does high body % gv u bp issues??
Yessir!! I had bad injury few months back. Couldnt hold a cup. Got fat. Never had bp issues at all. Just a salty meal boosted me up 152\102. Just over a small cup of vegetarian refried beans. Downed a gallon of water and kept bp checked with home monitor. Til i leaned out its No salt added at all. And if i have less than gallon water a day it can creep up. Right now because exercise, leaning out, clean foods....back at my 117/90.
Everyone using gear NEEDS a home bp monitor. Helps with cycles and hydration. Stress, fat, dehydration, pain, etc all raise bp. Stroke/aneurysm is the potential effects.
Thats a great tip bro. I think I'm going to shop for one. PM me with a good model bro
You nurse..but state odd bp..when tgey are always read in evens Only...you relate salt to bp like its the number one factor..and statealso state you downed one gallon water when you experienced High bp..yet lots of fluid.RAISES BP..hmm you sure bout your info
Driving down the road buddy. Slip of fingers and knock wrong number. Yes im sure. How ya thing you keep salt out of your system? Low intakes and flushing. Common sence when ai is already going. If you noticed...EVERY steroid forum here clearly states over gallon water daily for many reasons. You also didnt read entirely because i also stated clearly that some steroids raise red blood cell counts. If rbc raises and you're dehydrated it's most obvious that bp raises.
FACT--The OP here states that in 4 days his buddy had bp issue from test e. Impossible.
Dude your so wrong..and if we were in real life..i would fire you without remorse...
You need to stop just telling people what you dont know..your telling them things from "your" beliefs..then saying Im nurse ..ok well then be objective ..no nurse uses the word impossible in any medical situation ..stop lieing...stop sreadinh BS...idc about your karma vs mine...my wall of paper here says IM allowed to give knowledge..do no harm..anf teach...your spreading gossip..now nurse hat off...GO AWAY AND LEARN AND STFU TILL THEN OR HURT SOMEONE
4 days after 1 single test e shot at 250 did not raise bp. It's impossible. The long Esters of test e wouldn't even really break down in that time. Dudes condition is BODYFAT. I'd also suspect other pre-existing conditions as well. It's clearly NOT allergy as your statement suggested.
Anon?
Im not sure but I think anabolics elevate blood pressure due to the increased red blood count, and that certainly wouldnt happen that fast.
nope his wife is a nurse no way she would have done dat. injectetion site was his butt.
AnonI eddited that out when I re read your post and saw that it was thursday to Sunday.
What was his BP before he started ?
AnonWell I dont think I was 20% when I started but I was 42 when I started 1st cycle and had borderline high bp for about 20 years. So I doubt its just his age.
I have found cutting out salt, cider vinegar and tumeric have helped me a lot.
As far as your friend goes it sounds like there must be more going on with him. Any other drugs ? Pannic attacks ?
bp was normal dnt have any bp issue til dat incident. i thnk its his age 36, his heart aint all dat young anymore and ofcourse the high body fat % not helping his cause either!!
Running gear at 20% bf us a bad idea, BP issues bring one of the possible problems.
yep i told him to cut down before he jumped into a cycle but he dint listen.
Can't make people listen to advice, at least you tried.