posted Fri, 08/03/2012 - 05:03
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Test phenylpropionate Dosage/ Experience QUESTION
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Ive been pondering doing a Test phenyl propionate cycle after the one I'm about to start. Has anyone out there run a Test phenyl propionate ONLY cycle? Does anyone know what best injection times are? Or just general experiences with this ester
Im thinking about using Hulks Test phenyl propionate 150mg. I would do 2cc's every three days. Do you guys think E3D is the best timing or not. I Hear the half life is 4.5 days and I've never used this ester before so I'm interested what people have to say.
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JohnnyBlackso far I'm about a week and a few days into my cycle.
Pip has been pretty minimal at 1.5cc 3x a week even when jumping even a freezing pool and hot ass hot tub day after injection. So far I've noticed a SLIGHT increase in gym aLLREADY and I've also started to get wood in the morning which i never do & hunger has gone up significantly ..... thumbs up so far and i know its only gonna get better as the days increase!
JohnnyBlackfuck i think I'm about to get my pack in the mail today. I really want to be i guess lazy and only pin 2x a week at 2cc each pin so every 3.5 days pin 300mg ... since the half live is 4.5 days would i not be getting a effective dose ?
Didn't forget about you bud! I'd really recommend 3 injections spread throughout the week...."loading" it in a higher dose and with that length of time between injections could lead to fluctuations in test levels especially with not running a longer ester. Phenyl is similar to Prop and prop can drop sharply after 48 hours...phenlyprop may have a similar effect after 72 hours which would cause fluctuation passing that deadline at 3.5 days. Let us know how it goes!
JohnnyBlackI've started at 2cc 2x a week but if i don't get the gains i want I'm gonna switch it to 1.5ml 3x a week...
JohnnyBlackso if you wanted to do 600mg a week... how would you do that if injecting 3 times a week? if each shot is 150mg..
Umm...easy 1.33cc's per injection three times a week = 3.99(basically 4) which 150mg x 4 = 600mg! Wow ain't math great....btw like I said before make it easier use the PropioPhenyl blend ( 100 mg test prop/ 100 mg test phenylprop) of 200mg/ml and inject three times a week at 1cc which will give you 600mg!
JohnnyBlackyeah thats what I'm thinking now sadly haha i just ordered a few of the phenyl prop . i think ima do 1.5cc 3x per week so 225mg x3 =675... and like 675x.68=459 (.68 for ester wight)... i think id be happy with that.
You're all good bro! In actuality it's a really awesome thing that you're running phenylprop solo since no one really has...I think it'll help shed some light/knowledge on how this compound will work on it's own! So let us know man and you can always switch to the propiophenyl blend along the way if you're aren't getting what you want out of it! Good luck!
JohnnyBlackmhm. i think I'm gonna do half cycle with the phenyl prop than switch over to the propiophenyl about half way through depending on if i want to.
Iv'e never used it but i often use NPP and iv'e found the best protocol is mon/wed/fri.
jasonhid due a mon, weds, fri schedule. gives a little overlap on the halflives so levels can climb and gives ya a pin free weekend.Let us know what ya decide on and how your results were
Naw man people wouldn't cycle this only for a reason. If done I'd be more beneficial at 2cc's E0D because of the amount of pure compound your getting and only after a few weeks building test levels up would it even be a productive cycle. IMO if you'd like to do something like this look at the Sustanon which you could run at 1cc's twice a week...you'd get a good effect from the several esters. But if you don't want to incorporate the longer esters cause you only want more of a cutter type cycle...The perfect solution is their new PropioPhenyl blend which is a 100mg Prop/100mg Phenlyprop per 1cc...now this would be perfect running E3D's at 2cc's!
It has a medium life between cypionate and propionate. Recommended injections protocol are about 3 injections per week !!
Tpp is less test that prop but more than test e. Havent hear anyone cycle this. Prop is faster in/out than tpp. Tpp is hard to find. Your amount question is basic chemistry but not often talked about . Testosterone is a chemical of course. To make that chemical last longer....extra pieces are added called Esters. To make enanthat last two Weeks it has a long chain of Esters to slow that breakdown. So molecularily when you have 100Mg of test e or cyp.......if you subtract the weight of the ester you have less test. 100Mg is total weight on a scale. But by molecules it's a mix.
JohnnyBlack"A very interesting note concerning esters of testosterone is the form testosterone phenylpropionate. This is a propionate form of ester with a phenol group added to it, yet still has a half life very close to propionate (3-4 days). The phenol group is a carbon ring which adds considerable weight to the ester. Who cares you say? Just want to take your shot you say? Hold on a minute, this has huge application for getting huge. Test phenylpropionate weights 420.584g/mol (let’s round this up to 421. Take the 288 (weight of testosterone molecule) and divide it once again by the total molecular weight of the drug you are using (phenylpropionate=421). This gives us a percentage of 68%. Phenylpropionate is found in testosterone mixture, when found alone it is usually 100mg per cc (just like regular propionate). However at only 68% pure testosterone, a 100mg shot of phenylprop has only 68mg of testosterone!!"
IS THIS CORRECT?? if i do 600mg of test phenyl prop ill only be getting around 400mg of test???
And Phenyl prop is a little slower than prop i believe, but I'm not entirely sure thats why i made this post.
Agreed..Plus dosed at 150mg/ml you are getting about 100mg's of test..Its a little slower than prop..So EOD works pretty good. If ya want you can bump it up to 2cc's EOD. I personally do 1 1/2 with excellent results. Just my 2 penny's.
I was under the impression that phenyl prop was an even faster acting ester than prop which is injected EOD. If am right, you would have to do EOD or ED. Right?