posted Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:30
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Taking tren without test help please
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Okay so I'm taking 750mg oral tren ED and 50mg of proviron ED along with liver support and stuff . But the question is I'm on week 2 out of 4 and i can really feel the low test , my balls are smaller , no sex drive , and feeling depressed . I have 2 more weeks to get through tho! Should I stop now and start clomid ? I just don't want long term damage from this . And if my t levels will go back to normal I'm willing to tough out the next 2 weeks
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Hey okay so this is kind of and old thread but I got my results back
CBC is normal
Blood chemistrys are normal
CHOLESTEROL 113
HDL CHOLESTEROL 44
LDL CHOLESTEROL 61
TRIGLYCERIDES : 38
TSH thyroid test is normal at 1.40
Lever values normal
AnonProlactin is only part of ur problem
AnonDude you mean mcg and no need for priviron with tren cuz tren dont aromatize meaning ur natural test levels have been shut down and youll have no more estrogen which is very important for sex drive. Thats why u always do test/tren cuz u need estrogen for sex and even for better growth. Oral tren can only be ran at 3weeks max i think if im not mistaken.
750mg ED of oral tren?! It's a miracle you're able to write this post. Not only has the tren overpowered the Proviron and shut you down so hard that your balls are absolutely useless right now, but you may have done permanent damage and may never bring your natty test back. Yes, I am trying to scare you. You need to be scared. Who in the world advised you to take 1.) oral tren with no injectable test, and 2.) 750 mg ED? I seriously don't think there's a liver support at any dose that's strong enough to counter that much oral tren. So you also have the risk of ruining your liver along with your HPTA. Do you know what HPTA is?
I suggest you stop taking all oral AAS immediately, and start taking Pramipexole (Mirapex) immediately and get blood work done immediately and post the results so you can fix this ASAP:
... no wonder, you have no test in your system.
Pretty sure he meant 750mcg which is an average dosage for oral tren
Ahh yes - I just looked up oral tren and you're probably correct. He meant 750mcg... I hope he made a typo there. Regardless, oral tren is probably the harshest AAS known. Most advanced bodybuilders and professionals won't even touch it. This type of carelessness is what gives AAS usage a bad name.
Oh I completely agree.. The worst part is he stopped responding when we gave him advice he did not want to hear =/
Broooo... Yep what everyone said! Hopefully you take something away from this and do some proper research if you decide to do a proper cycle In the future
Honestly this is probably one of the worst cycles I've seen proposed on here. These guys have given you good advice. Just stop now. You should pick up some caber or prami and hopefully you already got your PCT supplies.
I would recommend getting blood tests to check out your prolactin/progesterone/estrogen levels so that you can really gauge what you need to recover. The clomid will help you recover for sure, but it's not going to affect your progesterone or prolactin levels, which could be a primary source of the depression along with low T.
First thing's first, stop the cycle now.
Yup if prolactin lingers it will suppress natty testosterone pretty bad and screw up recovery.. This is usually the worst case with things like deca which are known to linger but I wouldn't count out oral tren
Bail on this oral nonsense bro. Of all the orals to choose, you fucked up real well.
Okay but will I be able to recover from the sides ?
Yeah you'll recover. You need PCT or your recovery will be six to nine months out.
If it hadn't of been such a harsh steroid I wouldn't even worry about 2 weeks but tren gives a mean shut down
It shuts me down but the question is will I be able to get back up with my pct ? Plus it's only 4 weeks which is not long and alot of people have seen great results with that
"Alot if people have seen great results with that"
dude the only results you can see with this is permanent testosterone shut down, severe liver failure and a life long course of testosterone replacement therapy, having to get a weekly injection for the rest of your life.
Are these the great results your after? If so keep going bro your almost there.
You should if you stopped now.. Get your hormones checked.. No this is a bad cycle and one with experience will tell you that.. I did oral only cycles when I was younger and the gains weren't that great and you don't keep them nearly as well
No one is going to advise you to continue. I already advised you.
Honestly nope not if you don't have any idea what these are and what to do
Stop taking oral tren, and begin a PCT.. most vets won't touch the stuff.. Please research those terms..
This is not a cycle.. you will keep 0 gains from this and walk away with horrible sides?? pct?? prolactin inhibitor?? AI? Oral tren is even harsher than normal tren =/
Stats
Age: 25
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 172
BF: 7%
Sigh.... Wtf? Why?
Stop right now. Find the person closest to you and have them slap the holy shit out of you! Stop right now and take you pct gear. You can fuck yourself big time bro. You always need test as a base.