posted Wed, 06/29/2011 - 05:05
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Sustanon 250 front end loading
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I have heard doing 750 ml / a week of sustanon in one injection is ideal and that in the first injection it is worth front loading with 1000 ml.
I know sustanon makes controlling blood levels difficult but I believe this solves it. Or potentially taking sust one day a week and supplementing with Test E or Test C once a week.
Thoughts?
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y2ice101injec 500mg mon,injec 500mg friday will help keep your blood levels steady. on sustanon I would start at 1,000mg a week for 8 weeks,you should blow up like a balloon.(if you have good sustanon) follow proper pct buts thats my preference.
anyone know a reliable source to get some good sus?
Take a look in suppliers introductions, plenty of sources there with feedback. I do Lixus sust for £30 or pharma amps (Organon) for £4 ea
Sorry I got cut off...in order to kick start things.
Dan88-I am with you, test e or c easier to manage.
Hllwdbdboy - test prop good for front loading with test c or e. I wonder with sust...I have heard some people insisting you do 750 of sust one day a week and you are golden bc then you are getting close to 100 mg of test on each ester.
I am thinking of doing test e next time and hitting test p for first four weeks rather than an oral to kick start the cycle. Or do winny, test e, and two weeks of test p
using a longer ester to stabilize doesn't make sense seeing that it is the shorter one dissipating
yup, I concur. Use prop to stabilize.
@the1andonlykid I take sust mondays and thursdays (well which ever really they're just mine),use up the prop else your better just using enthate.Sust is really good put i prefer enthate tbh,had some good cidotest recently.100% legit and good stuff
"From "Anabolic gameplan" - assuming 500 mg sustanon, 1 shot per week:
Day 1: 49 mg ---> goes down 5 mg per day for the first 2 days, then 4 mg per day for the next 2 days, then 3 for the next 2 days...so down a total of 24 mg the first week. Day 8 shot will take you to 72 mg; do down 8 mg day 1 then 7,6,5,4...; Day 15 shot will take you to 83 mg then you go down 9 mg days 1...8,7,6,5. Day 22 shot will take you to 88 mg, similar pattern to Day 15. Day 29 you will hit 91 mg, and go down 10 mg day 1, 9, 8, 7 by day.
So I assume 1000 mg will double that - take you to 98 mg day 1...the question is the rate of decline. I will run the numbers and come back to you but it probably argues for front loading something like 100 mg then dropping to 750 mg to stay at around 100 mg blood level."
Is this correct?
Wow...that is deep and far too complicated for me. If you're going to get the calculator out and start doing it all precisely, you're going to have to factor into the equation the fact that different esters hold different amounts of test e.g. 100mg of test cyp actually only has 69.90mg of testosterone, the rest is made up of the ester and 100mg test prop has 82.72mg of testosterone, the rest being ester. So as you can see with 4 different esters and 4 different amounts of actual test per 100mg and 4 different rates of release, it's going to be hard work calculating the exact amount of test in your body at any one time.
Got it - those were estimated blood levels from the book Anabolic Gameplan. The challenge I am finding is how to correctly dose sust on it's own. I will try 2 x per week versus 1 x and see how that goes, unless you have some ideas? Also I appreciate your response to then thread.
You're welcome m8, always glad to help and yes twice per week with sust is a much better option imho.
Due to the inclusion of 4 different test esters and the fact that test prop is one of them, it is best shot eod or twice a week minimum. Otherwise you will be getting a spike of test for a couple of days then less test for the rest of the week. If you want to do one shot a week with even blood levels of test, you're better off using test en or test cyp.
sust is a multi ester blend with 1 short ester. what makes it difficult to control blood levels with blends is the shorter ester. whenever i use blends i supplement with the short ester (with sust that would be the prop)
**EDIT - BS explained more clearly