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Starting 9th Week Test E and...????

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This is my first cycle, and I've asked a few questions along the way trying to figure out if shit is working right for me or not. I will say, that I've made some damned good gains on my squat and deadlift. My first four weeks on D-bol kicked me right up there, and I seem to have kept most of them through last week. A few things are kind of bothering me, though. Like, my nipples are completely back to normal, my balls are hanging low, my body weight is going nowhere and I've been tired and feeling over trained. I actually took four days off this week to recover. I've even upped my dose a bit from 600ish mg/wk to 650-700mg. I only have four weeks left, and I just got to believe I should be feeling ready to kick ass in the gym everyday. My diet is good. Eating 5000-5500 calories a day. I probably need to sleep more, but have always averaged about seven hours a night. My oil has been rated some of the best on eroids, and many have told me it's top shelf. So I don't know. Any feedback would be much appreciate, if only to set my mind at ease.

Oh, I should also point out that I've stopped taking my AI for about the last week because I thought maybe it was running me down, and I've also not changed the way I train too much from pre-cycle. So, with not running the AI, and not seeing any noticeable changes, I'm a bit miffed.

whiteNcrispy's picture

I started the Liquid Stane back up at 25mg EOD, and so far things seem to be coming around. I don't know if that should happen quite so fast (maybe it was all in my head?), but my body is back to feeling like like it did on the d-bol, minus the high BP and bloat; nips are hard again, sack is hanging tight again, lethargy is gone, and nailed some PR's today.

jkc's picture

That's good to hear. Glad it worked out. Thanks for coming back and letting us know. I was going to hit you up about it in PM soon.

whiteNcrispy's picture

Thanks for posting that link below. That really opened my eyes! My body weight is suddenly creeping up too. So weird, lol.

iforged05's picture

I always use adex eod, to make sure and keep estrogen in check, no harm can really be done with that amount, but you can control your estrogen levels. As for the lethargic feeling, I get the same way on orals, except Var. get your bloods done

whiteNcrispy's picture

I wish it was that easy to get labs done here. I don't have a right to privacy with my labs for starters, and I need a doctor's recommendation for it in this stupid ass state. There are no Lab Corps or walk in labs anywhere in the entire state. I got my blood work done pre-cycle, and plan to get post-cylce work done out of state.

hkg11's picture

Btw that stuff sounds fake.

whiteNcrispy's picture

No, I don't think so.

landojacked's picture

Quit spanking it all day and you will have more energy...jk but for real

hkg11's picture

Did you get the testosterone from the gorilla guy or pharmacomstore.org?

whiteNcrispy's picture

No, neither.

jkc's picture

privatemedlabs.com . You just need a local lab. Can locate one from this site also.

whiteNcrispy's picture

I got pre-cycle blood work done, and plan to get post-cycle blood work done when I'm out of state again.

whiteNcrispy's picture

Unfortunately, I live in a state that requires doctor approval for blood work, and there are no Lab Corp locations anywhere. The closest one in the next state is 700 miles away, but I'll be close in three more weeks.

whiteNcrispy's picture

No, I'm probably undercutting the calories rather than undercutting. That's why I put that range in there. I eat six times a day with most of my meals being around 800 calories, and lunch and/or dinner going well over 1,000 Biggrin

I'm dosing Aromasin at 12.5mg EOD. I'm thinking of bumping it up a bit and seeing what happens, but I would think I'd be bloating a bit, nipples perking up or something if my estro levels were really high.

jkc's picture

How long you been running the Aromasin?

whiteNcrispy's picture

I started running it one week after I started my cycle at 12.5mg EOD, but I kickstarted with D-bol and ended up using the Aromasin ED for the remaining three weeks, but then cut back down to EOD.

jkc's picture

Could have bad aromasin. Hard to tell. Hopefully somebody else will chime in. Gotta go to work. Goodluck

whiteNcrispy's picture

Sent you a PM.

jkc's picture

Couple of other threads here like this. Do you have an AI on hand? Blood pressure?
Try this link
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/estrogen-and-test
Sorry I can't do more right now. Club thumbs and cell phone don't mix.

whiteNcrispy's picture

Oh, shit, your link might have my answer though! Maybe I needed to increase the AI, rather than decrease! Shite! Thanks!

whiteNcrispy's picture

I should get blood work done, but it's kind of tough where I'm at. Hard to explain without giving too much info away, but available doctors are scarce, there is no walk in Lab in my state, so I pretty much have to go through my doctor, who expects me back in one year for my next lab lol. I will be out of state later this month in three more weeks, however.

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BP is back to pre-cycle levels 130/70 and lower. I have been taking Liquid Stane for an AI (more than enough on hand), but like I said, I dropped it briefly to see if there are any noticeable changes, and I haven't noticed anything other than a further return to normality.

jkc's picture

It seems you dropped and raised backwards. Don't raise your test levels at this point . Try raising your AI for a couple of weeks. Aromasin 12.5 eod. I will go get a link for private lab and get back to you. Give me 5

whiteNcrispy's picture

Do you think 25mg EOD would be too much to get back on track?