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managing estrogen while using test eq npp

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how do i build a stack that will keep my estrogen in optimal range while using test eq and npp together what are good ratios to start with?

paladiamors's picture

For me personally I started out 1:1. Crashed my E and had to recover. Finishing the cycle at 3:1 and worked out well.

bgonz174's picture

brother you can not answer a hormone based question in a forum. I promise you, the only way you can find out is by running the compounds extremely low and titrating up until you reach desired e2.

I know folks on 1:1 test/eq that e2 comes back perfect and then 3:1 test/eq that e2 comes back crashed. Sadly this is very individualistic, you gotta run the compounds, run the bloods and then you'll find your perfect "ratio" for "you".

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No08's picture

Just for perspective, I ran a stupid high Sus cycle to see how high I could get my test before sides showed up and I ran it with eq. I can’t remember how much Sus I ran but I’m pretty sure I was running 300mg eq.

My test levels were over 8k and my e2 was at 37. I wasn’t taking any AI or anything else to help control e2 except the eq.

In the past I’ve had my test at 2500 and had my e2 around 30-35 and I think I was running a very small dose of AI so for me to be able to more than triple the amount of my test, drop the AI, and still keep my e2 at basically the same level with eq is impressive to me.

That stuff, for me at least, really controls e2 quite powerfully.

You will need to do bloods and find out what your system likes. Keep in mind eq takes forever to reach saturation and it takes forever to leave your system so if you build up too much eq and your e2 tanks it could be a while for the eq to leave your system and your e2 to climb again so some guys get Dbol as Dbol aromatizes like a mofo to help boost e2 if you crash it.

I’m just a simpleton but that’s my experience and that’s all I can really share.

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No08's picture

To answer your question, I’d say 3:1 ratio of test:eq is a good start. Use Hello Good Labs for affordable blood tests. Use code HX0IZ9 to get a discount. You can also use this link:

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Which will also grant you a discount. Super affordable bloodwork. Get Dbol on hand in case your e2 crashes. Be patient and give the eq time. Nothing worse than rushing bloods, thinking your e2 is good because you checked before full eq saturation, and then your e2 crashes shortly after getting bloods done when the eq reaches full saturation.

I can send more links for more discounts on bloodwork but I believe there is a post here where lots of members have shared their discount code so you can find many more pretty easily. I just do à la carte tests personally. I got CMP, CBP, Lipids, Free, Total, and Bioavailable Testosterone and e2 for about $70 without a discount.

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Charo12356's picture

3:1 test to eq ration is a good start. Eq can be brutal on e2 for a lot of people even at 3:1 and some people can run 1:1 ratios. You’ll just have to see what works with you and go off of bloodwork

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TeaBody's picture

Good advice... 3:1 or 2:1 is a good start. A good rule of thumb is the higher the test, the higher the ratio.

Cypher2377's picture

That’s what labs are for, this is not a 1 answer fits everyone, run that shit, listen to your body, know what feels normal and what doesn’t, then do labs, adjust, take your ancillaries, continue to run that shit, do labs again. It doesn’t take long to see by blood how your body is reacting to the compounds you’ve introduced into your system