posted Tue, 03/07/2017 - 13:20
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OK, I had an old man Dr (81 years old) and he put me on 200mg of test Cyp a week and I felt great. He died and I now have a new Dr (Indian woman in her 60's). First thing she did was blood work on me and then cut me off of my trt. Bloods came back all normal except cholesterol was 208, slightly high. Test levels were 402 and free test was 121. I've been off over a month now and I feel like shit. Please help.
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Yea, not much sense in you trying to reboot. Not unless you have a year or so to feel like shit. Go see an endo and in the meantime score some test to get yourself back right again. That said at 200mg test per week your numbers should be much higher. 1200-1500
Bloods were drawn almost 3 weeks after last pin, I'm sure it was higher. I'm going to see a urologist first then get referred to an endo, dr's orders, huge pain in the ass dealing with all this shit. I'm trying to follow the dr's orders but it's SO tempting to just to get it my self and avoid all this.
RustyhookerInsurance covers your ass legally. Dont mess this up.
Word to the wise as "bloods" have become all the rage lately and for good reason as health should be the primary focus whenever considering AAS use.
You may think that all medical records are kept confidential but every time you visit the doctor, you leave a paper trail that passes through the system.
Many state/federal privacy laws require a doctor to keep records private, an insurance company can demand to review all necessary records before reimbursing the physician for services rendered.
Does your employer administer your benefits in-house? That means someone in your own company may know the intimate details of your medical history.Though they "code" many of the diagnoses employers, insurance companies and other "interested parties" can access this infromation and before you know it this personal medical history is sitting on the MIB, formerly knows as the Medical Information Bureau.
Even if you pay for your health care out of your own pocket, forgoing insurance altogether, your medical records could still end up in the hands of a current or future insurer. That's because most doctors are part of health care networks that require access to all records, not just their own patients/clients.
What this all means is that these results of AAS use, high testosterone, high liver values, crazy RBC counts can all be used against you and raise an eyebrow when applying for life insurance, critical care insurance, disability, long term care and more.
Just my .2. If you have something to lose and you anticipate needing these types of insurance policies I advise you use the online lab services where you can use an anonymous name. Hope this helps some of you.
You are being more than a little paranoid bro. If he was on doctor prescribed TRT they have nothing to hold against him. Also your lab results are not privy to life insurance, they will take their own bloods on you.
No disrespect to you Sauron but my post was not specifically tailored to the OP, it was merely a heads up to anyone who may find it useful. I have personal experience in dealing with the dissemination of what was considered confidential patient information. It does indeed happen. Not saying all those who are having bloods done are susceptible to such an event, I am not suggesting they skip bloodwork, or not apply for an insurance policy, I was merely presenting the possibility.
As for lab results for life insurance what you said is true in that they "may" take your blood depending on the type of policy whether or not it is a conversion to or from whole/term/universal life, etc. The way it works with what I described is if you have blood tests done and your doctor codes your results which may represent medical conditions, medical tests ( including lab work) that you have taken. This goes directly to the MIB which is like a FCRA database. So they dont receive the actual medical record but they can see the codes which can adversely affect you and/or influence the underwriters decision making process.
So you dont have to be "paranoid" if you are not someone who is looking into such insurance policies but the possibility is there as I stated earlier, even if it is 1 in 1000 and people should have that information available to them.
Not trying to start a back and forth with you Sauron but I am open to a dialogue if anyone cares to follow up.
Get an endo. Tell them the truth about any and all use.
I'm thinking that's the way to go, hoping my insurance pays for it?
So you feel like shit with normal test levels? LMAO. Then low T is not your issue, it could be your just lazy or you are eating shit processed foods and twinkies.
I would go and get a full physical and a full blood panel not just a hormone panel.
Thats the level it was at, at the time of the labs drawn 3 weeks after my last pin, I'm sure its been on a decline since.
If anything I'm overtraining and as my test levels dropped, I felt it. I'm not a lazy dude that eats twinkies. (I prefer pop-tarts)
Your new doc appears to be doing it the right way, however your old doc probably messed you up for life by putting you on trt when you may not actually have needed it and now your HPTA may be fried. Sounds like a lawsuit in the making.
Agreed!
Perhaps its time for a new doctor. What was your test at when the old Dr decided to put you on?
edit; low 400 ng/dL for 200 mg a week seems very low...
Old doc never took my labs, prescribed it it to me based on what I told him. I just told him I didn't have the energy I use to and didn't get a super hard on anymore. I exaggerated a bit but he wrote the script. I was on it for 6/7 months and found a source on here to bump it up to 500mg weekly but only did that for 2 months.
The_RockJesus dude, I hope you recover. Keep us updated.
So you lied to your dr to get on trt,...added in your own test to run a cycle for a couple months, ...got busted by the new doc, kicked off trt, now asking for for help?...hhhhmmmm....good luck to you
Thank you for chiming in and good luck to you as well.
RustyhookerYou're screwing up big time. Get your bloods checked. Full panel. I bet your gonna be trt for life
Had full bloods done 3 weeks after last shot. Everything was good. I've been off for just over a month. I'm hoping your wrong about being on TRT for life but I fear that as well.
When should I get bloods done again to see where everything is (level-wise)?
If you didn't want to be on TRT for life why'd you use exogenous test for 7 months straight? It prolly wasn't fully out of your system in 3 weeks. If you truly don't want to be on TRT you could maybe try running a classic PCT for 4-5 weeks and run bloods in 8. But you may just be wasting time/money that way.
But I personally wouldn't do shit without talking to an endo first and being 100% HONEST with them. Otherwise you're just throwing darts with the lights off.
Honestly, I was on test for that long because I was under the impression that my natural levels would come back. I now understand that it might not. If I knew that before, I would have never been on that long.
I'm seeing my Dr again Friday and will definitely be asking for a referral to an endo.
Thank you for good solid advice, I appreciate it
No problem boss. Good luck.
I posted my bloods, please give em a glance when you get a chance.