Noob question
OK so I'm 41 and have worked out off and on my entire life, stay active year around and love to do outdoor activities.. I'm five foot nine and about 165, very low body fat, lots of veins, and consider myself to be in great shape compared to most folks my age..
I don't know what my test levels are at but I almost feel like I did twenty years ago. I've never used steroids before but have a few friends that did back in the day with great results. I've been thinking about adding an oral steroid to help bulk up a bit but having some questions. First off I know that injectables are the way to go but that is not a possibility with me, my wife would kill me if she found the needles and I can't risk any injection site problems as she would see them. I also can't blow up and make it obvious.
What I want to know is this.. if I take a half dose of the lowest recommended dose of an oral, will I see results? Would that be too much? I'm looking for slow and solid gains not a huge jump in a couple months. I wouldn't need to take an anti-estrogen with that low of a dose would I? My wife likes the D and I've got to make sure things still work. I've spent a million hours reading the past few weeks and can't find much info on low dose use. I'm thinking Superdrol and Winstrol if that matters.
Any advice would be much appreciated! Thank you!
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Got my results back.. had Test checked in the morning and I am at 460
Seems pretty low for a 41 year old guy who works out regularly, eats great, sleeps good, and has low body fat
Wife has agreed to pin me if I want to go that route, she's a vet tech and gives shots daily
I don't know, I feel like shit every day and need to do something
Thoughts?
Read some of the responses and your reactions to them. Great attitude. Gear is not for you. Your 165 lbs. food and gym is your game. Get your levels checked maybe the good doctor will try you if they are low. But you would know if they were. Shit can the idea of an oral only anything.
Yeah man like said below if your perfectly healthy and only looking a a little more of an edge more diet and exercise can get you far. What I do for a little extra edge for the wife is pop a cialis and give her a good night like we were 15 again the next day you will feel like a boss without having to use aas and not to be to verbal but I have pee pee problems when I'm running till I get dialed in and it ain't cheap getting dialed in. save the money and give your wife some honey
Haha yeah the concern is that my equipment will stop working! It's great now, I just don't want to lose it!
So the oral only cycle can result in bedroom problems but not if I add an oil based med? Would I be better off ordering an oil and just shooting a small dose a couple times a week and not taking an oral? I just want a little bit of an advantage, I'm not a power lifter or body builder just starting to feel my age!
I thought about this beginner cycle:
Weeks 1-12 750 mg Test Enanthate per week
Weeks 1-4 30mg adrol or dbol per day
Weeks 1-12 10 mg Exemestane every other day
How do you feel about this? Is this too much? Is it going to put my dick in the dirt?
I sincerely appreciate the help, thank you again!
Either man up or shut up. Your are grown man so I am just telling you straight up. No point sugar coating it. You don't take steroids for a bit of an advantage. You in no way shape or form need them for a little bit of an advantage. Get your ass in the gym and eat a little more food and take some creatine if you are just looking for a little advantage. It is fucking hilarious when I hear people say I want to take steroids but I don't want to get to big. You are either all in or all out so make your choice and tell your wife about it.
Well I appreciate you not sugar coating it. I workout four days a week and my nutrition and sleep are perfect. I've had guys ask me what juice I'm taking at the gym. All I take is a pre workout drink and supplement with protein. I have veins across my abdomen so it's not like I'm new to weight training. I just want to put on some lean muscle without looking like I'm training for competition. What's wrong with just running a little juice in the background to help add some gains?
What kind of gains are you looking for?
The problem is that if you are just looking for a little bit of gain, this could likely backfire on you. What happens if after running your cycle your HPTA doesn't bounce back?? Think long and hard about that. Is a few extra quick pounds worth potentially sacrificing your HPTA for the rest of your life. At our age we are not so resiliant any more. If all you are looking for is maybe a few pounds or so, that can be accomplished by diet and training modifcations without potentially sending you down the long lonely road of trt.
Thanks for your concern Makwa.. I looked at your profile and much respect to you sir! Does the doctor decide what levels you should be at when on TRT? Does he let you run it high or do you have any decision at all?
Your doc decides that. Mine doesn't want me above 650.
I have an appointment in two days, I'll let you know where I'm at
Rustyhooker+2 for positive replies. Its appreciated
I just feel like I've somewhat peaked for my body composition, I'd like to add another twenty pounds of lean muscle. I've got a small frame so it's tough. I've weighed 191 at my heaviest but a lot was water and I looked bloated, it's extremely difficult to get gains without getting fat.
You are nowhere peaked for your stats. Twenty pounds should be pretty easy yet. If you can't get those easy pounds yet without gear, you definitely will not be able to maintain what you may put on with a cycle. Sucessful cycles hinge on diet. You still have a lot of work to there yet if you want to maintain any gains from running a cycle.
Well shit.. I'm going to go eat and hit the gym, thanks for the help! I've got a lot of thinking to do, I appreciate the replies. Now let's go make the young guys look bad
LMFAO..................... thats the name of the game bro.
Happy Grandpas Rule!!.....................
This is what I would do
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/the-key-to-quality-mas...
Thanks for the link, there's a lot of good info in there. Cutting is easy for me, I'm an old wrestler and I've got a high metabolism anyway. In order for me to gain weight I have to force myself to eat. Like literally force myself, it's terrible.. If I stop lifting weights I easily cut fifteen pounds without doing a thing
Eating doesn't get easier the bigger you get either. It gets harder. If you are having a hard time now it will only get worse.
Way too much for 1st time. You need to learn a little about your endocrine system and how it responds to injected/ingested AAS before you start taking any. At 41 you may be "feeling your age" due to lower testosterone. Common to be treated for it if thats the case. Have levels checked first.
I could go get my levels checked, but I guarantee my doc will tell me my levels are at, or above, average. Which won't do me any good. Guess I just need to decide if I want to go this route, thanks for the response
Nope, not a good idea IMO. If your wife likes the "D" as you say then you risk shutting it down with your proposed oral cycle....with any oral only cycle really. Have levels checked as stated below. If you have to hide it from your wife, you probably shouldnt do it.
oral only cycles are pointless. you would lose all your gains post cycle and probably end up worse off.
It's not recommended to use orals alone. Oils are the way to go. I would Honestly go to your doctor or a Male clinic to see where your blood levels are. Once you do that the Doctor will recommend what you should do. If this includes TRT if your levels are low than your wife will have a better understanding.
Rustyhooker^^^^^^^