posted Mon, 04/15/2013 - 12:59
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Mast as an AI?
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So I am currently running Test p 450mg/wk Tren A 350mg/wk Masteron E 400mg/wk Is this a sufficient amount of Mast, to stop extra test from converting into estrogen? my other Dilemma is I have letro which seriously Kills estro, So If mast isnt enough how much letro should I be throwing in?
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Ah Shit.... Im so glad I seen this ! Im running Master P right now. I have for some reason been avoiding Mast forever, Thinking it was a "weak" compound.... That is such a line of shit! I will include the MASTER in all cycles from this day forward. I have also ordered some Mast E to give that a swing as well. fitcpl2529 , You my man know what you are speaking of! I feel so much better on this cycle. And yes Mast is an AI. Not only that but what it does for your labido as well is amazing. Mast is Probaly my new favorite other then the KING and its at bat with EQ for me.
Really digging this info. So stoked I ordered some Mast for this next cycle.
Prolly gonna be Test E and Mast E @ 600/400 for at least 12 weeks, and Tren Ace @ 100 EoD from week 4-12.
RustyhookerSounds like Lotta side effects. Save the tren for future
i find this so strange to read this right now, last night i talked to a friend on the phone who went back on cycle to run mast to get rid of his gyno. im not very familiar with mast, but i am now after last night and what i read this morning.
Masteron is a steroid not an Ai!
Yes it helps alleviate some of the negative sides other steroids produce
But dose not directly lower estrogen in men
Use an Ai like Aromasin at 12.5 mg eOd while on cycle and 12.5 mg Ed for the first 15 days of the standard Nolva/Clomid pct for best results in keeping estrogen in range!
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RustyhookerTren isn't at all studied in humans. Cows get their fina pellets...get mass...slaughtered two Weeks later. So in looking for prolactin isdues as studied in meficine you need to review elsewhere.
https://www.pituitary.org/disorders/prolactinomas.aspx
The medical sites worldwide cite high prolactin causing breast development in men(gyno) and leaky nips. Caber/bromo/prami block thay function
I would go buy aromasin
X2! Also caber/prami for prolactin sides? Have you scheduled any bloodwork during your cycle to confirm your levels? Without bloods everything you're doing is guess work.
Honestly Im a firm believer In the theory that you will only experience prolactin sides if your estro gets too high. But I do have a buddy that has it on hand so if really necessary I can get caber. But I can get Adex, what would you recommend as a dosage since I am running the mast? (I know everyone is different but what would be a good starting dose)?
lol I am a firm believer that you are full of crap lol
angusX2!
There is a fair amount of research that shows gi wont take place soley on prolactin it needs enough estro for the process.
safetyfirst21This must be why a buddy of mine ran Tren only a few times and got breast lumps. Never believe anything too "firmly."
angusAre you saying that your prolactin won't increase if your e2 is in check? Or are you saying that you won't notice any of the effects of high prolactin with low estrogen? I'm a little confused there with that statement. The answer to your question is that all probability says your mast will not completely control your e2. It will certainly help but you should take a maintenance dosage of Adex at .25mg/e3d to assist in that. As well as add Prami or Caber to your regiment. You'll need to test to be sure that that dosage is appropriate for what you are doing and how you are responding, otherwise you are just guessing.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/labwork
Also you can only get gyno from prolactin if you have enough estro to let it happen, Since obv putting tren in your system you afre increasing progestin which will increase prolactin but in order to get gyno you need a certain amount of e2.So I am saying yes to the second question.
I am saying e2 and prolactin go hand and hand I have seen multiple studies that support this, that is in gereral but were talking aas tren in particular which raises progestin
http://m.pnas.org/content/75/12/5946.short
RustyhookerSir...you are wrong. Tren raises prolactin and high estro makes things worse.
Guy read what I posted, Tren raises prolactin but you wont get gyno from prolactin without elevated estrogen levels.
Without getting bloods YOU ARE GUESSING..... It's all theory until you get blood work and see where YOU are.
yes mate, there are multiple studies stating this, but it comes down to the individual and the compounds/dosages run, generally speaking while on cycle if you keep a firm grip on estrogen you should not have a drama, but after all is said and done, theres nothing to stop the rebound, prolactin,progestin from popping there nasty heads up in the form of juicy b cups.you cant beleive everything you read in studies as it might be ok for one person, but the next person it may not be.