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Massive PIP from quad injection

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This is big d's pharma test e.

I have enough pain to the point where it hurts to bend my knee and lay down in any awkward position.

Quad area is swollen and puffy.
Walking is like stabbing myself with a knife repeatedly.
I've been taking painkillers so I can actually limp around to make a meal.
Any suggestions?

normal's picture

I joined the club, it took about 44 hours for the full pip to take effect. Quad swollen down to the knee from 1.5 cc's primo and .5cc prop. I've read about primo being painful. I think I can walk today, will limit quads to .5cc in the future. I did look my copy of Grey's for location of nerves and realize I need a better resource. Definitely avoid high center, too far on the outside there are some.

Showgun007's picture

I know your pain brother, I'v had pip so bad that I'v taken days off work.
MUSCLE relaxers work best for me.
I find if i warm the gear up and inject very very slowly and rub the quad for 15 mins after I'm best kind. Also if you hit a nerve on the way in, pull out and pin again.

normal's picture

70% alcohol is more effective at killing bugs than 91%. I know it sounds like a crock, but it's the truth and verifiable. I really try to do it out of the shower where I've had a chance to use a salicylic acid scrub on the region to be pinned before using 70% swabs.
Guess I'll break out an anatomy book and look for location of nerves in quads.

camrron03z's picture

I got celulitus last week with 2MLS shot of decades and tested, it was just to much oil for me in one spot. I got on antibiotics and decided to shot my test prop in the leg, I don't have the redness but I am limping everywhere and will never do the legs again. I only did 1ML in each leg Friday and Sunday, but I know how u feel about not being able to bend ur knee at all or barley lift your foot off the ground, luckily I just started my reflex antibiotic. Keep me posted on how it feels I'm only on day 2 and all my stuff is big d

animal69's picture

Let me start by saying i LOVE pinning quads more than anywhere else. Yea you hit a nerve more often but if you notice and pull out it goesaway the next day. I had an infection starting in my ass last week that i thought was pip till it started to swell then i knew but i called and had my Grandmother(a nurse) get me a prescription to some kflex and it was way better the next day. Itll usually take care of any infection if you get to it before its bad. I keep it on hand now just so i can pop one when the pip lasts to long.

Huntfish37's picture

My opinion you need to take it easy for a bit, switch gear, change injection method, get to doctor, try something. I think your pushing the infection thing in your leg. It's nothing to take lightly I've been there. You won't have too much fun trying to get to the gym with 1 leg

Huntfish37's picture

Your delts will always have a little pip all depending needle entering, speed of injection ect.. Few times your delt will get used to taking 1-2 ml shots. If pip I get a hot washcloth put it on for 5-10 min it works wonders

Bennyblanco's picture

My delts are always itchy for a couple/few days after I inject them, but they never hurt. Even first time injecting them I hit them with at least 1.5 no prob just go slow...

fastbacktest's picture

ok bro that's good news....now SHUT UP AND TRAIN hahaha. my shoulder is good and my glute too...but i can still feel my legs a little bit. I'm staying away from quads for a looooong time

Bennyblanco's picture

Let me guess time for another injection? LOL

Huntfish37's picture

Man listen to me and maclar this is serious shit and nothing to take lightly or wait out. If by morning still bad get in. And what he said was true some cases people do lose Thier leg. Step before that if leg gets too tight they will split it open. Not pretty

maclar's picture

By the way, it's not always necessarily the quality of the roids, you can get an infection by just not getting all the bacteria off your skin before you inject. It's happened to me, even after I cleaned the area and the vial tops with alcohol wipes. You can get it anywhere you inject. Just be extra careful when sterilizing the area you inject. I actually shower first and clean the area with soap, then wipe with alcohol. Hope you're at the E.R. right now.

maclar's picture

Just to make sure you got this, GO TO THE E.R. and get antibiotics...you have cellulitis (skin infection) Needs to get treated NOW!

maclar's picture

If it's red and and puffy you have a skin infection (cellulitis), you need to go to the E.R. and have them prescribe antibiotics. This has happened to me many times...i know exactly what you are describing. Go now before you lose your leg bro..

Huntfish37's picture

If you notice any water retention starting in around knee area get the hell in to the doc..... Trust me

Huntfish37's picture

FCVtec you nailed it. Sometimes people's bodies react wierd to injections just because of foreign stuff going in. I will say 90% of time is because people are injecting shit that has been stirred up with a dirty paddle in a dirty bath tub. Your right get rid of the gear. There are many reputable sources on here with great reviews on clean, painless gear. Most of us have learned the hard way I guess that's just the name of the game. All I can say is I wish I had a site like this when starting out would have made things a lot easier

Huntfish37's picture

Not to scare you but get to doctor like now.. I've injected quads 2 times and both times ended up in hospital. Second time I shot quad instant pain started moving down leg. Few hours was past my knee. Ended up with cellulitis infection and doctors could not explain why. All I can say it was not pretty. Heavy antibiotics treated it and finally went away but docs said lucky I came in when I did .all I can say is stay away from quads that's my opinion I've shot delts and glutes hundreds of times without any problems

witchdoctor6's picture

I had been meaning to write a quick article on PIP. I just done so under the Anabolic I hope this give you some clarity to what is going on with the quad pain.

witchdoctor6's picture

Yes it will, you will notice the edge of the pain tapering off

Carlos Danger's picture

U need to tell us ur cycle history and how long u have been on this compound. Also if this is a new compound that could be the reason for the pip. For me my muscle has to get used to new compounds or new labs. I'm better after a few injxns

fastbacktest's picture

the more i walk...the more it's getting painful so i decides to rest on the sofa for all the weekend and eati'n chicken...now right leg is getti'n better but why the fuck is quads the worse place to inject?? i'm thinking about the calf, or even the pec! www.spotinjections.com

crankigator's picture

calves and pecs might not be the best spot. i have heard calf injections can be nightmarishly painful. generally bigger muscles are better than smaller muscles. that is why glutes are so popular. i injected a ml of test prop in to my bicep once, never again it hurt like a bitch for three days. if it is you guys' first cycles you need to give your legs some time to toughen up. in a few weeks you won't feel a thing after an injection.

fastbacktest's picture

bro i'm not sure about taking the risk to get a level of pain like this...and not being able to walk for 6 days! i want to sta away from quads for a while...at least with veyron oils ....

crankigator's picture

why do you think pinning the same amount of oil into a smaller muscle will hurt less? at least in the quad you know how much it will hurt. if you are not willing to risk some PIP why are you willing to take AAS?

fastbacktest's picture

hey i'm sorry dude but i'm talkin about HALF A GOLF BALL PIP HERE...i pinned my ass...i pinned shoulder and i never NEVER felt like this...i inject twice in my legs and it cost me a week of training...i had to lie to everyone around me why i was limping like a bitch for 7 days! i'm gonna stay away from the legs for a loooong time...now i don't feel pain anymore and its not red or swollen, so i know it wasn't infected...i really don't need to go through this again...i just injected shoulder yesterday and im feeling good, and my glute is g2g i can't even find where i injected it...my both legs are not painful anymore (its been 7 days) but i can still feel it

Carlos Danger's picture

There u bro. That's ur answer right there. Everything will hurt te first few times. The ba or BB might not like u the first few times it comes with the territory. Don't add the benadryll so soon. Try heating the oil to thin it a lil bit. Also make sure the pin happens clean and massage the site thoroughly after. Heating pads work but really it' time and repetition that will help the most.

fastbacktest's picture

i'm planning to try the left glute or left shoulder...wednesday 250mg of test-e...i'm on second week and don't feeling anything yet. This thing smell fucki'n strong it's crazy, at least i know it's legit. If you tried the shoulders before me let me know how was it bro. Is this your first cycle?

fastbacktest's picture

yeah i've read a lot of comment about the veyron stuff...( really bad pip , and strong smell) so...so this make me think i got what it's supposed to be.

fastbacktest's picture

yeah pretty same situation for me...this cost me a week of training!! felt like i got shot by a 9mm right in my leg! i can't climb the stairs loll! i'm with you bro! i did the glutes yesterday night and no pain...today i can feel it but not bad at all! i'm on the veyron oil (wich is known to have a nasty bite) so the next level of pain would be hospital i think!

fastbacktest's picture

BRO...if you tell me it's swollen...i'm tempted to say that you may watch for infections! I got the same problem RIGHT NOW! Will never inject in the quads anymore! i made two pins one in each legs...it's been 7 days and i can't even walk correctly shit!! but it aint swollen or inflamed so i know its not infect! STICK WITH THE GLUTES AND SHOULDER BRO!!

crankigator's picture

i assume you pinned the right leg? the middle is ok, but i find my thigh is meatier higher on the thigh. i generally go more toward the front rather than all the way on the side. benadryl is good you could also take some advil, and try a heating pad if you have one.