posted Wed, 08/21/2019 - 00:59
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I cant sleep at all on Tren Ace
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Im running 700mgs test e a week and 30mgs everyday of Tren A currently. Im halfway through a 12 week cycle and cannot sleep once I added in the tren ace 3 days ago. Does anyone have any remedies?
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'I would think' - So you clearly haven't got a bloody clue then. 'From what I heard' - Stop wasting everyone's time by responding. A 3.5 to 1 Test to tren ratio is not 'Fine'. Go back to school....
Well... this dudes name is "no tit." You can only expect so much haha
The slurping sound that statement made. Don't forget to cup the balls.
Does your Grammy cup your balls down in the basement? That must be where you learned that from...
Surprised his reply to this didn't start with "I think"
Prolly cause he knows .
He don't think it be like it is, but it do.
Well said sir
Fucking parrots taking my Karma. Oh no not my karma
Haven't touched your karma. I figure your itching to have it taken. I think it is a challenge for you to see how low you can get before you get banned . Seems your MO. So I'll let you dig your own grave troll boy. Hey not to far to go from your grammies basement. You should do great
Never know. Talking shit to some low karma nobody because some shit you read is different then what they posted just might get you banned. maybe with all that karma you cant get banned. atleast think.
Half the things you say are shit. Then you want to insult guys with dick sucking jokes. You actually said some good bits and got karma. But for the most part you are trolling to cause trouble. And no high karma doesn't keep one from getting banned. Being a shit wiesle will though. Looks like you are one the right road. Keep up up the good work there basement boy
Nice comeback. I guess all that karma makes you witty.
Funny how one minute your English is all over the place then the next it's fine. Clearly a second account...
Ever notice all trolls are 6' 230lb
Yep. Got most of it from talking shit to trolls like you.
Probably you specifically. How many times you been banned now?
I would guess it came from talking shit and parroting. As far as how many time I have been ban I would guess not as many as ACE.
So you have been. Nice. I see you like guessing. Want to play the guessing game?
Are we guessing how many karma points you got from parroting?
So just out of curiosity...
What is it you thought I parroted?
Shall we get to the bottom of your discomfort.
What's really bothering you?
Is it cold in your grammies basement?
Lack of sun light down there?
Or are you just mad cause the other kids dont get picked on at school.
You became a parrot when you said that the ratio of test was too high because tren is 5 times blah blah blah. 30mg of tren needs low test. get the fuck out of here. You can use a ratio I guess but really why the fuck would you. what is your bullshit ratio anyway? 1:2 1:3 1:3.4372 ? lol Maybe you wanted to say you should just run a trt dose with tren, or maybe you think the guy running 30mg of tren should be running 100mg of test or they dont know what the fuck they are doing. If this guy wasnt on is second cycle and was ready for tren his cycle is fine. Might even be better than fine.
What's funny about this is after a friend of mine confirmed you have been here since about 2012 and you used to be a standup guy that actually knows what your talking about I looked into your profile. Saw who your friends are the weird posts you have have comments on and your comments. I thought "you know what maybe I had this guy pegged wrong. So I went back through, re read all the comments you have made, said to my self self maybe you are wrong. Looked at things from a different perspective seeing where you were right. " but fuck me here you are being a dick. No I dont have a proposed ratio that fits all. Never once stated I did. No there isn't any thing wrong quoting others that know. No there isn't any thing wrong with my personal experience. And the whole point to any of this is the guy isn't ready for tren. And honestly I give no shits about who you are or used to be or who you know. So you get the fuck out of here.
That is how it started. The "that is the worst ratio I have seen". Then I commented and you jumped in. Everything you have said made sense to a point. It was lost in the fact we are talking about 30mg of tren and you cant make a blanket statement like someone is retarded just because you like chocolate and they dont. Everything you have said I have seen typed probably over 100 times. Also seriously if you think 700mg is high test you get the fuck out of here.
Say what you will but at the end of the day the opinion we are giving you is based off of personal experience. Your opinion seems to be based off incoherent ramblings.
Agree to disagree.
I'm sure you could find something more productive to do than to troll eroids. Also, just for the future, usually when people with experience are telling you something from their experience, that trumps a baseless "I would think" argument.
"I would think car's fly" -well you thought wrong sonny. You thought wrong.
You think that karma means experience?
Are you even paying attention? Bill and I both told you we get more unwanted sides with test high and tren low. You admitted you've never even touched tren.
Can't tell if nuts or just a troll.
1 You are both idiots. 2 I never said I have or havent used tren. 3. Yeah fucking you for having more or less side doing whatever the fuck you do. Just because it happened to you does not mean it will be the same for another. Anyone that thinks 30mg of tren is cause for adjusting a test dosage is out of their fucking mind. Be like me saying you are a dumb shit for even using test with tren. Just because I ran a tren A cycle at 100mg per day with out test and loved it. Maybe that didnt happen fuck who knows. Fact is you do not have the perfect ratio for the world. I doubt if you even have it for yourself. It isnt even figured as a ratio as far as I am concerned. The most comical thing is anyone thinking 700mg of test is high. FTW.
Thank you for your insight no tit. You are a major asset to the community.
Trollin' trollin' trollin'
StevebAgain acting like the online tren expert.
What would you say to this guy then? Do you ever come out with any positive statements steve? I've yet to see one in the whole time I've been a member here....
StevebSay whatever you want but stop acting like Rusty because your karma is higher than his.
Who cares
Stop acting like a troll.
So you are questioning my lack of tren usage. I get that but have you ever ran tren with test in this range? Have you ever ran test e and tren a together? I wouldn't know from experience "maybe" but I would still guess that it would be a fine ratio. I also think low tren is a great idea.
I know you're asking press, but I have to both of those. In my experience the ratio is sub-optimal for the reason that Bill G stated. The binding affinity of tren to the androgen receptor is much higher than test. That leads to conversion/side effects when the test is high.
As I mentioned in another thread, high test/low tren gives me more unwanted side effects than low/moderate test and higher tren. Hope this explains it ok.
And that being said, the OP shouldn't be running tren at all if its his second cycle.
I have also ran high test with tren against the advice of others and I was a train wreck. I have ran low test with high tren and it was great. I think the point to this whole argument that little miss no tits here is being lost I would promote research into OP's previous posts and his cycle log. Read through the comments on that. He was advised for his benefit to not run tren on second cycle by some who have more experience than probly any one here. AND we find him complaining about having problems with it. The answer is no on a second cycle, third cycle, forth cycle and so on. Whether or not the ratio is correct shouldn't even be the question. Tren is dangerous and should be respected at any dose dispite the test amount ran with. Leave it out of the equation for a while. Food and gym first then compound later. And then here is new guy touting BS about what he feels. reckless troll behavior. Always seems to be one new guy who probly isn't a new guy but some one who has been run off starts a new account then comes in here just to stir the pot.
+1 well said.
I think this is 100% accurate.
There you go thinking again. Welcome back who ever you are.
So is it the receptors or is it the sides? I am lost. At 30mg of tren I am sure there is plenty of reception. I bet you can still pick up any station you wish. You really think that is a high test dosage? I would think that low test with a tren cycle might be the best thing. I might even think that no test is great but adding a touch of tren to a test cycle seem ok.
StevebI'm point out the same thing Pale did 2 weeks ago. How's that being a troll? Oh you used Tren 4 times you must be an expert.
I've told you in the past I have no interest in your opinion on anything when you have trolled my comments over the years, but still you continue - this was after you sent me an FR which I declined.
I said 4 years plus not 4 times.
StevebYou sound like a woman. Stop acting like an expert talking down to people who are new. A mod just told you the same thing.
He's not going to die or anything but its defintiely nowhere near what I would call an optimal ratio. The question he raised here about something to help with tren induced insomnia does make me think he has not done the proper amount of research. The ratio kind of backs that up, or at a minimum just inexperience.
I would guess when he said 2nd cycle was enough info to know it was wrong choice. I think the post seems more like a look at me I am on the tren post. I think ratio is still fine. I would also guess ,, that low of tren wouldnt be a bad starting point for someone ready for that in a cycle.
Second cycle? Drop the tren now. Save it for a cycle far down the road. Not being able to sleep on tren is par for the course. Should have known this before you started taking it.
Cool, so second cycle and you’re using more test then I ever did up until my last cycle, and a compound I won’t fuck with.
You see how this doesn’t really make a lot of sense?
You're not taking enough Tren to make a big difference so I agree with those below who said drop it. Anyway with very high test it kinda loses it's purpose.
Nice that it is ace. Just drop the tren all together and save it for when you are ready to sweat your ass off and not sleep. You should just stick to the basics until you know what you are doing and the effect of what you are doing. The more you read the less stupid mistakes you make. In the mean time get up and do something. If you are awake use the time productively.