posted Wed, 08/21/2019 - 00:59
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I cant sleep at all on Tren Ace
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Im running 700mgs test e a week and 30mgs everyday of Tren A currently. Im halfway through a 12 week cycle and cannot sleep once I added in the tren ace 3 days ago. Does anyone have any remedies?
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Depending on your goals and schedule doing light cardio in the morning might. I lift in the evenings after work but if I get up around 4:45 AM and get brisk walk/jog in before work I sleep like a baby at night. Tren does have some negative respiratory effects which can make cardio difficult and it would be a little counterproductive if your going for a straight bulk, but if it fits what your goals is worth a shot.
The trick is to stay heavy on the dextrose and carbs when running tren to keep the monster fed, if you do that then its awesome for gaining strength and bulk. I find I put on so much more size and muscle with it in cycle than just test and other compounds alone. The fact it constantly fights off catabolism to a strong degree also means you are never losing muscle built on it even when ill or not being able to eat for an extended period of time.
Bang'emthats a low dose as it is
Cut your dose down or come off.
AnonTren is stupid. 12 weeks is pleeeeenty, are you just waiting until you snap? Fkin devil's semen right there.. oooh it's all fun and games until youre screaming at a McDonald's worker for forgetting something you didn't even order..nectar of the gods my ass.. definitely the devil's semen.
I´ve never use Tren so I dont really know how the sides can be but had you tried to wank yourself? Usually it works in this situation.
Haven't read all the posts but I'll assume half were the usual "you're an idiot ... you don't know what you're doing ... you shouldn't be using gear ... etc."
So, for anyone researching later ...
I read everything I could find on tren before trying it mid cycle and it seems like some get every side effect there is on the lowest dose and some get none on 100mg a day. Dose recommendations were all over the map, too. I read guys pinning daily, every other day, and every three days and dosages from 10mg to 100mg with varying results and sides. I started low dose and raised from there. I only get a little hotter than usual and a tiny bit of backacne. It was a small price to pay for the very noticable results.
Tren is like every other substance, we never know how it will react with our unique chemistry. Like any anabolic/andro compound, my experience has been start slow/low and adjust. I'm sure you've already fixed the issue by now. But I woulda just reduced the dosage and/or frequency and watch for positive changes before cutting it out completely. I would have to agree with a couple posters who cautioned against OTC or Rx meds to fix a symptom, however. AAS are not innocuous. We are all experimenting - whether we admit it or not - and I'd be watchful of any negative changes rather than mask them.
The adage YMMV is VERY true for gear. There are few absolutes. Like just almost everything else in life.
Maybe you should read the posts and learn something.
Try some Melatonin right before bed 3-10mg ( start low)
Alphamale500From my experience, Melatonin is no match for the insomnia brought on by tren!
Insomnia is a known side of Tren. Honestly, just stop taking it for now. No shame in taking a step back and thinking about whether or not the sides of tren are worth it given the possible physique improvements. Tons of people hate tren for the same reasons.
Jeez, why didn’t anyone tell me there was such juicy conversation in this post. I’m late on making my popcorn!
But on topic, man I get it, you see tren and you’re like “fuck I wanna take that shit because it sounds so fucking cool! It’s the miracle steroid and everyone who takes it looks like a Greek god”. I felt the same way when I first researched it, actually even before that when I had friends that did it years ago and said the motto for tren was “eat cake and get shredded”. Now I know that’s totally fucked and they had no business doing tren, that I have no business doing tren, and man if YOU take some time and honestly think about it that you’ll realize you have no business taking it either. And that’s not even accounting for the horrible sleep side effects you’re getting from it now. Why would you keep taking it when you can clearly see how big of a negative effect it’s having on your body?
Why are you taking tren in the first place? Is it because you see it as an easy out for not having to dial in your diet like my friends did? Looking good takes hard work, ask any of the guys on here who are experienced and look like gods. I’m not there yet, and I accept that until I’m ready to put in that same hard work in every aspect of my life and not just in the gym that I’m not ready to look like that. Are you ready to put in that work- in the gym, the kitchen, your lifestyle?
Take a step back man, drop the advanced stuff and come back to the kiddie pool with me. We’re hear to learn and get better- better physically AND mentally. And who knows, maybe a year or two from now we’ll be there, not to tren but achieving our goals.
I like this.
If it’s effecting like that you need to drop it. Just not worth it there’s other things out there that will get you great results with out all those sides.
jayiskinsomnia is a known side effect of tren. So make up your mind.., get off tren and get some sleep....,or stay on and learn to deal with insomnia.
on that little bit of Tren lmao. Throw it away. It’s not for you bro
Lmao...
Alphamale500This is an area that should've been researched long before you foolishly chose to run tren with only 1 cycle under your belt. And you should've come up with some kind of ancillary for this very common, pretty much guaranteed side effect of running tren. Is there anything you have tried?
Advice: Stop taking Tren
Alphamale500Simple enough right!!+
Only happens at the end of my cycles
Haha naturally.
Lol yeah sleep goes to shit appetite increases immensely just in time to cut it off lol
That’s a high dose I’m also struggling with sleep right now myself if I can’t sleep I usually with take a cyclobenzoprine that seems to help me best
I would caution to recommend taking drugs to counter or mask the sides of the drugs you’re taking.
Alright I need to clarify at this point lol I only take my muscle relaxer if my arthritis is killing me and occasionally I take it when I cannot sleep I do not use this as a daily remedy
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Not sure why you would even mention this. Sounds as if your giving advice.... bad advice...
Not advice bud and how’s that bad advice it’s not a drug it’s a muscle relaxer everyone relax jesus
Now you're suggesting that everyone should take cyclobenzaprine?
Edit: Looking up this "non-drug" on Drugs.com with the side effects, a big hit on liver, and drug interactions, taking this while using AAS, particularly with Tren, does not seem like a smart idea.
The half life is 18 hours, so taking this without a scrypt and knowing nothing about the drug a nightly dose would slowly build up in your system like a long estered cycle... Overdosing can be fatal.
I'd stick to herbal remedies and staying away from carbs late in the day.
Alphamale500I totally agree about the dangers of taking a drug that you know nothing about for non-prescribed reasons, and the dangers of their unknown interactions. Even many herbal remedies can have their own very dangerous side effects and interactions. Many people think because it's herbal it's safe, and that's far from the truth!
Yeah I was just saying what helps me sometimes because I’m prescribed it not recommending anything to anyone obviously it’s not ideal or healthy and shouldn’t be taken if not prescribed I’m not a doctor just like most aren’t on here
Problem was you did not mention your prescription and you spoke of it in such an off handed way, "If I can't sleep I'll usually just pop on of these". Which opened the door for someone to look for the drug as a sleep aid.
It's the reason we don't discuss things like insulin.
StevebI thought we don't discuss insulin because it can kill you easily
Exactly, now look up the half life of his drug and the possible results of an OD.
Tread lightly if you want to start trolling me for mentioning insulin in this context; I'm not in the mood.
I think you should just ban yourself dude. You should know better ;-)
A muscle relaxer is a drug, pal.
Cool bro
This does not sound like a good option to me.
Prescribed it for pain anyways that’s why I take it
bro your so hardcore doing Tren this early on, second cycle and dude is in the deep end.
Wish I had some advice for you, but I only have 12 years experience in the gym I haven't touched Tren yet. No worries though bro this is your second cycle I'm sure you will be fine.
Welcome to the wonderful world of tren. Kidding aside, you need to research more before you put anything in your body especially tren. Test is way too high ,tren is too low. If this is really your second cycle you should hold off on tren and stick with test. You should make great gains off test alone this early in your AAS experience
Alphamale500Very good advice and you're absolutely right!!+
Defo save the trenbolone for much further down the road - You can also tell you don't know what the hell you are doing as that Test to tren ratio is the worst I've ever seen somebody come up with.
That is the worse ratio you have see?
700mg's to 210mg's - Yes.
I would think it would be fine.
Considering trens binding affinity being 5 times that of test. That little bit of tren is taking all the space . Leaving all that test just floating around doing nothing but converting to estrogen. You following yet? That is a bad recipe for sides. 200 tren isn't a bad starting point but why not get all you can out of a few test only cycles with right diet and gym. Before jumping on the most powerful one out there. Just to get a few better gains right off then loose them. Plus there is a grip of bad sides that come with tren. Unless compeating for real money like the big boys at nationals . It just isn't worth it for an average gym rat looking for an advantage.
I would think 700 is not a high dose for test. I would also think that from around that to 0 test is fine. From what I heard Tren sides are coming no matter what. You may lower sides a bit but they are coming. Now maybe that test is not needed which maybe makes it a waste of test but I would not think it would hurt really.
Alphamale500What??? SMFH!!! I don't know where to begin with this, lol! I would think you should do a lot more research before making comments like this one!