Your way underweight
Go get a full check up with your doctor and if you can eat 5-6000 (count them out) calories per day until you reach you desired weight!
It's science calories equal weight!
Try a 30/30/40 % split
Fats/ proteins/carbs
Or similar to that, a little fat can be ectos friend!
Why dont you try increasing your protien intake to way over 200grams per day. Plus add in some chicken, some turkey and steak. The less processed the meat the better. Your not a guy that should avoid carbs though, so hows about some rice, pasta, kidney beans, chick peas, potatoes(not in the form of french fries ) and whole grain breads.
It has been said down below numerous times, but I'm going to reiterate it again.
If you want to grow, you have to eat more food. You could take all the steroids in the world and workout 7 days a week for 2 hours a day and if you don't provide the body with the calories and nutrients to build muscle, absolutely no progress will be made. One thing that I have learned is that steroids increase your metabolic rate and allow the body to utilize the nutrients more efficiently. Due to the increase metabolic rate the body is going to actually need more food than it would without the steroids for any weight to be gained.
If I were you and I was 100% set on running a cycle with the intention of getting bigger and stronger I would start out by figuring out what my daily caloric requirements are based on my energy expenditure level. http://www.health-calc.com/diet/energy-expenditure-advanced . That link will take you to an online calculator that will give you an idea of the number of calories your body requires to maintain your current weight based on some activity factors [This is not going to be 100% accurate, but it will give you an rough idea of what your body needs right now.] Once you know the rough requirement for your current weight, try putting into the calculator the stats for the weight you want to be and what your daily exercise and lifestyle will be like.
Once you've come up with what the calculator recommends for daily food intake for the weight you would like to be, add a minimum of 1000 calories to it, being as your on the lighter side of body mass right now you would probably benefit a lot from adding closer to 2000 calories.
Now that you know the quantity of food you are supposed to eat it is time to come up with the very first thing you need before you begin to think about what kind of cycle you would like to run, which is a diet plan. Focus on eating 2 grams of protein [every day] for the the desired body weight you would like to achieve. Eat an equal number of grams of carbohydrates as you do grams of protein and fill the rest of the calories up with dietary fat. [Another theory would be to keep fats at about 100-150 grams daily and fill up the remaining calories (after reaching the 2 grams of protein per pound of desired weight and the 100-150 grams of fat) with carbohydrate calories.
Now that you have an idea of what your macronutrient intake is going to be [macronutrient intake is the quantity of Protein / Carbohydrates / Fats in your daily diet] you need to come up with a meal plan.
I would suggest coming up with a meal plan that you can either prepare ahead of time [if you don't have the time to cook each meal right before you eat it] and that you can repeat on a daily basis to ensure that your reaching your macronutrient goals.
Diet is the number 1 most important factor in growing, drugs are not.
Once you've got all the above figured out if you come back onto the boards and create a new post explaining your plan someone will be happy to help you design a steroid cycle that will help you achieve your goals.
i was around 130 (60kg) when i was 22 at 6'8 but that time i was doing muay thai training and i was stick :-). i do also had big problem put on weight but as been stated roids are not magic pills. you need eat and you need good weight gainer. it worked for me and i got 10kg mass in 2 months that time.
by look at your diet i would say you from UK as only here i see people eat like that :-D
ou and you 23 and that way too young for roids in my oppinion
Im about to take a cycle of sust/test e/dbol. 3rd cycle. 6'0 130pds 23 years old. past two cycles had no idea what i was doing...this cycle wont be for another 5 months. I wanna get my diet in check first see if i can gain wait naturally, but just for future reference. I take in about 3,500 cals with 90G of protein. How should I do this cycle I guess is what i wanna know
Just listen to me now please. I've been a skinny kid my whole life. Trust me bro I have hyperthyroid and I was never able to gain size easily. I busted my ass trying to get to a bigger size I was stuck around 150-170 and could never go past. I thought I needed steroids to help bulk me up. Really all I needed was to eat more food. I hit my first cycle at 170 and got up over 200 first cycle because I learned how to eat properly.
If you are 130lbs at same height as me why would dbol or anything else this cycle make you bigger if everything else is the same? You are not going to get bigger no matter how much steroids you take. I'm telling you all you need is to improve your food intake because there seems to be a lack of food in your diet. Or you have some sort of digestive/medical issues that needs to be taken care of.
Please post your diet and be 100% honest post your DAILY DIET no lying or adding anything be completely honest so we can find whats wrong with it and get you on a plan to gains some size.
Average day for me goes like this.
Breakfast at 930am: Oatmeal from mcdonalds or sausage biscuit with hash brown or pancakeds or cinnamon rolls * 600 Cals *
Snack: 2 Bags of chips 400
Lunch 12 oclock: Burger w fries and water 700 or 3 slices of pizza 900 cals
snack: protein bar? bag of chips? nuts? 300
Dinner: 800 Cals
protein shake before bed... 400 cals 40Gs protein.
With that diet u i promise u will have a heart attack with gear ur HDL must be low to begin with u got no monounsaturated or polyunsaturated fats, gear lowers ur HDL u gota have high before starting low HDL= heart diease. Man if u dont wana have major problems stay away from roids till u get ur diet on deck add veggies fruits nuts olive oil and low glycemic carbs and hi glycemic carb post work out to spike insulin to better absorb ur protien,
Do some heavy research bro no offense just lookin out for ya
wow bag of chips is part of your daily diet? No wonder you aren't gaining weight.
You do realize eating meat is an important part of gaining muscle right? Without meat it's going to be hard to get the total protein.
you need to get about 200-240g protein per day and look like you are not even getting 100. I would suggest adding in a tablespoon of olive oil 2x a day. Also replace those chips with a quality meal such as chicken and rice
Yes I have a low appetite. once I stopped playing baseball last year, my meals went down to two a day...just now starting to get the appetite back, Im going to be on ghrp6 to help the appetite more.
no steroids for you with that diet mate, you cant gain eating like that, im surprised your even alive with that diet, that's one of the worst diets ive ever seen!!!!! wheres the meat at bro!!! you need steaks, chicken, turkey etc, rice, potatoes even pasta bro! cereal/ oats even bread for you, weight gainer shake will help you before bed, vegetables, fruit?? dude I gained over 20 kgs naturally in 2 years just slowly increasing calories and food intake! even now at 28 years old im consuming around 6000 calories and im nearly 120 kgs bro, and im still upping the food!! if you cycle and eat a diet like that bro you will probably continue to lose weight!!!
Force feed. Seriously, forget gear for a good while. Grab a family pack of meat. Chicken or whatever. Force it down. When youre eating enough in a day consistently to feed your family, youll see gains. I have trouble eating enough when it's hot out. Just do it. Track your calories and proteins. You'll gain. Period. Dot.
you need to head down to the weight gain/diet section bro, then head back up here when your eating, I have an old saying- eat like a bird look like a bird- eat like a gorilla look like a gorilla!!! dude when I was 16 I weiged like 65 kilos, so it took me 12 years to get up to 119kgs, and it wasn't the gear, it was food and hard work!!! this is the heaviest ive been!
Been to the doctor...everything is all good...they say im the biggest 130 they have ever seen healthiest too...lol i bench 190..and squat 220...everything is fine...small boned, poop genes...and still throw a baseball 86 MPH...
oh look its the troll patrol- whats the matter you poor little boy?? are you jealous??? not getting any from your boyfriend?? or is it because everyone on here knows your an insignificant nobody with no brains who cant even hold a membership on a website?? get of the lsd and drugs you junkie and go seek urgent mental health support hahaha TROLL hahahaha
nah mate, but I think if you want to have a laugh take it to the off topic section!! we take steroid and aas related discussions serious, no room for joking when peoples health, safety and even life is on the line!!! don't worry vahallas is just upset with me from another post when I told him not to take lsd while on cycle, he believes its healthy and give him a good pump!!! don't worry im sure he will be ban then come back again!!! poor little boy just wants to get some muscle but hes struggling, the poor pathetic skinny little kid!! feel sorry for him
Valhallas i googled how to take dbol, this is what came up for the best way ...
gonna need a couple things..
1. a funnel
2. a razor blade
3. Pill
4. Cup with Purified water
5. glass service
Start with the razor blade, chop that little fuker up reaaaaal FINE on that nice glass service...Grab your dam cup of purified H2o put that white dust in it...Pull down your fukin pants bend over and stick that sumblch (FUNNEL)* in your booty hole No LUBE like a real fukin man and let it settle and soak up it'll hit your blood stream faster than you can say ching CHANG WaLLLA WaLLA BING BANG!
Well since you've been a complete douche from the start, I see no reason why we should waste our time when it could better be spent helping those that actually need/want it.! But for the sake of the game I'll chime in... 40mgs ED should work fine for you...spread it.out into 4 doses throughout the day. If your pumps aren't good enough, bump it to 50mgs...still not.good enough? Then get different dbol cuz yours is crrap
fitday.com
myfitnesspal.com
make accounts and use these each day make sure you are getting 250g protein/700g carbs/140g fats per day!
Oh hell yea ! Today i bought some meat and veggies. trying to get this thing going !
Your way underweight
Go get a full check up with your doctor and if you can eat 5-6000 (count them out) calories per day until you reach you desired weight!
It's science calories equal weight!
Try a 30/30/40 % split
Fats/ proteins/carbs
Or similar to that, a little fat can be ectos friend!
Gator
AnonWhy dont you try increasing your protien intake to way over 200grams per day. Plus add in some chicken, some turkey and steak. The less processed the meat the better. Your not a guy that should avoid carbs though, so hows about some rice, pasta, kidney beans, chick peas, potatoes(not in the form of french fries ) and whole grain breads.
Good info
AnonHow you feelin brother ? You doing well with your blood sugar ?
I'm maintaining, holding strong, just ran bloods and everything was spot on, actually on the great side of things by surprise! Thanks for asking!
Gator
AnonExcellent news , glad to hear that ! ;)
safetyfirst21Dude no. 130lbs after a couple cycles, really? You don't need gear, you need food, training, and sleep.
waltrIt has been said down below numerous times, but I'm going to reiterate it again.
If you want to grow, you have to eat more food. You could take all the steroids in the world and workout 7 days a week for 2 hours a day and if you don't provide the body with the calories and nutrients to build muscle, absolutely no progress will be made. One thing that I have learned is that steroids increase your metabolic rate and allow the body to utilize the nutrients more efficiently. Due to the increase metabolic rate the body is going to actually need more food than it would without the steroids for any weight to be gained.
If I were you and I was 100% set on running a cycle with the intention of getting bigger and stronger I would start out by figuring out what my daily caloric requirements are based on my energy expenditure level. http://www.health-calc.com/diet/energy-expenditure-advanced . That link will take you to an online calculator that will give you an idea of the number of calories your body requires to maintain your current weight based on some activity factors [This is not going to be 100% accurate, but it will give you an rough idea of what your body needs right now.] Once you know the rough requirement for your current weight, try putting into the calculator the stats for the weight you want to be and what your daily exercise and lifestyle will be like.
Once you've come up with what the calculator recommends for daily food intake for the weight you would like to be, add a minimum of 1000 calories to it, being as your on the lighter side of body mass right now you would probably benefit a lot from adding closer to 2000 calories.
Now that you know the quantity of food you are supposed to eat it is time to come up with the very first thing you need before you begin to think about what kind of cycle you would like to run, which is a diet plan. Focus on eating 2 grams of protein [every day] for the the desired body weight you would like to achieve. Eat an equal number of grams of carbohydrates as you do grams of protein and fill the rest of the calories up with dietary fat. [Another theory would be to keep fats at about 100-150 grams daily and fill up the remaining calories (after reaching the 2 grams of protein per pound of desired weight and the 100-150 grams of fat) with carbohydrate calories.
Now that you have an idea of what your macronutrient intake is going to be [macronutrient intake is the quantity of Protein / Carbohydrates / Fats in your daily diet] you need to come up with a meal plan.
I would suggest coming up with a meal plan that you can either prepare ahead of time [if you don't have the time to cook each meal right before you eat it] and that you can repeat on a daily basis to ensure that your reaching your macronutrient goals.
Diet is the number 1 most important factor in growing, drugs are not.
Once you've got all the above figured out if you come back onto the boards and create a new post explaining your plan someone will be happy to help you design a steroid cycle that will help you achieve your goals.
Awesome calc to use bmr and good info!
i was around 130 (60kg) when i was 22 at 6'8 but that time i was doing muay thai training and i was stick :-). i do also had big problem put on weight but as been stated roids are not magic pills. you need eat and you need good weight gainer. it worked for me and i got 10kg mass in 2 months that time.
by look at your diet i would say you from UK as only here i see people eat like that :-D
ou and you 23 and that way too young for roids in my oppinion
Clown
Im about to take a cycle of sust/test e/dbol. 3rd cycle. 6'0 130pds 23 years old. past two cycles had no idea what i was doing...this cycle wont be for another 5 months. I wanna get my diet in check first see if i can gain wait naturally, but just for future reference. I take in about 3,500 cals with 90G of protein. How should I do this cycle I guess is what i wanna know
Obama BlowsEither you have a health problem or your math is way off, cuz you should weigh a hell of a lot more than 130!
I haven't weighed 130 since I was in 5th grade and I was a fucking stick at that age and about 6 inches shorter lol
But i came out the WOMB with ABS! lol thats the only bright side i can think of?
Just listen to me now please. I've been a skinny kid my whole life. Trust me bro I have hyperthyroid and I was never able to gain size easily. I busted my ass trying to get to a bigger size I was stuck around 150-170 and could never go past. I thought I needed steroids to help bulk me up. Really all I needed was to eat more food. I hit my first cycle at 170 and got up over 200 first cycle because I learned how to eat properly.
If you are 130lbs at same height as me why would dbol or anything else this cycle make you bigger if everything else is the same? You are not going to get bigger no matter how much steroids you take. I'm telling you all you need is to improve your food intake because there seems to be a lack of food in your diet. Or you have some sort of digestive/medical issues that needs to be taken care of.
Please post your diet and be 100% honest post your DAILY DIET no lying or adding anything be completely honest so we can find whats wrong with it and get you on a plan to gains some size.
Average day for me goes like this.
Breakfast at 930am: Oatmeal from mcdonalds or sausage biscuit with hash brown or pancakeds or cinnamon rolls * 600 Cals *
Snack: 2 Bags of chips 400
Lunch 12 oclock: Burger w fries and water 700 or 3 slices of pizza 900 cals
snack: protein bar? bag of chips? nuts? 300
Dinner: 800 Cals
protein shake before bed... 400 cals 40Gs protein.
AnonWith that diet u i promise u will have a heart attack with gear ur HDL must be low to begin with u got no monounsaturated or polyunsaturated fats, gear lowers ur HDL u gota have high before starting low HDL= heart diease. Man if u dont wana have major problems stay away from roids till u get ur diet on deck add veggies fruits nuts olive oil and low glycemic carbs and hi glycemic carb post work out to spike insulin to better absorb ur protien,
Do some heavy research bro no offense just lookin out for ya
wow bag of chips is part of your daily diet? No wonder you aren't gaining weight.
You do realize eating meat is an important part of gaining muscle right? Without meat it's going to be hard to get the total protein.
you need to get about 200-240g protein per day and look like you are not even getting 100. I would suggest adding in a tablespoon of olive oil 2x a day. Also replace those chips with a quality meal such as chicken and rice
do you have a low appetite normally ?
Yes I have a low appetite. once I stopped playing baseball last year, my meals went down to two a day...just now starting to get the appetite back, Im going to be on ghrp6 to help the appetite more.
HOLY SHIT BRO!!! feel the rath of the pros!!! im starting to get very very suspicious of you mate, I smell troll
WTF is a troll?
no steroids for you with that diet mate, you cant gain eating like that, im surprised your even alive with that diet, that's one of the worst diets ive ever seen!!!!! wheres the meat at bro!!! you need steaks, chicken, turkey etc, rice, potatoes even pasta bro! cereal/ oats even bread for you, weight gainer shake will help you before bed, vegetables, fruit?? dude I gained over 20 kgs naturally in 2 years just slowly increasing calories and food intake! even now at 28 years old im consuming around 6000 calories and im nearly 120 kgs bro, and im still upping the food!! if you cycle and eat a diet like that bro you will probably continue to lose weight!!!
thats the thing, when im on the juice, i was eating triple and gaining weight like crazy...
Force feed. Seriously, forget gear for a good while. Grab a family pack of meat. Chicken or whatever. Force it down. When youre eating enough in a day consistently to feed your family, youll see gains. I have trouble eating enough when it's hot out. Just do it. Track your calories and proteins. You'll gain. Period. Dot.
you need to head down to the weight gain/diet section bro, then head back up here when your eating, I have an old saying- eat like a bird look like a bird- eat like a gorilla look like a gorilla!!! dude when I was 16 I weiged like 65 kilos, so it took me 12 years to get up to 119kgs, and it wasn't the gear, it was food and hard work!!! this is the heaviest ive been!
Been to the doctor...everything is all good...they say im the biggest 130 they have ever seen healthiest too...lol i bench 190..and squat 220...everything is fine...small boned, poop genes...and still throw a baseball 86 MPH...
RustyhookerDid you fall on your head?
6-0 & 130 ?????
Food dude!!!!! Protein alone needs to be 260/day for current weight. Don't cycle til you're 200+!!!!!
Calories are half your needed requirements!
How come 200 pounds?
no help from me TROLL.
valhallas bestCENSORED
oh look its the troll patrol- whats the matter you poor little boy?? are you jealous??? not getting any from your boyfriend?? or is it because everyone on here knows your an insignificant nobody with no brains who cant even hold a membership on a website?? get of the lsd and drugs you junkie and go seek urgent mental health support hahaha TROLL hahahaha
Revenge lol you hate your TROLLS huh
nah mate, but I think if you want to have a laugh take it to the off topic section!! we take steroid and aas related discussions serious, no room for joking when peoples health, safety and even life is on the line!!! don't worry vahallas is just upset with me from another post when I told him not to take lsd while on cycle, he believes its healthy and give him a good pump!!! don't worry im sure he will be ban then come back again!!! poor little boy just wants to get some muscle but hes struggling, the poor pathetic skinny little kid!! feel sorry for him
Obama Blows+1
I really did hear it you insert pills in your bum that it hits you harder and quicker. . .
Obama BlowsDon't you some stupid ass video game you should be playing?
valhallas bestbrother it's oprah hour, i never go near the t.v. my wife wouldnt let me have sex with her for a week if somehting happend...
Obama BlowsLemme try wording that differently!
GO AWAY!
Valhallas i googled how to take dbol, this is what came up for the best way ...
gonna need a couple things..
1. a funnel
2. a razor blade
3. Pill
4. Cup with Purified water
5. glass service
Start with the razor blade, chop that little fuker up reaaaaal FINE on that nice glass service...Grab your dam cup of purified H2o put that white dust in it...Pull down your fukin pants bend over and stick that sumblch (FUNNEL)* in your booty hole No LUBE like a real fukin man and let it settle and soak up it'll hit your blood stream faster than you can say ching CHANG WaLLLA WaLLA BING BANG!
Obama BlowsYou're an idiot....no help from me!
valhallas bestdude i was kidding brother.. i dont think thats safe
oh lol i thought you were for real! what dosage would you run Dbol though? anyone can help thanks
Obama BlowsWell since you've been a complete douche from the start, I see no reason why we should waste our time when it could better be spent helping those that actually need/want it.! But for the sake of the game I'll chime in... 40mgs ED should work fine for you...spread it.out into 4 doses throughout the day. If your pumps aren't good enough, bump it to 50mgs...still not.good enough? Then get different dbol cuz yours is crrap
Im getting my hands on blue hearts...i know some sources
why not 2 pills of 20MG a day?
you sure you didn't write this?
I have 1 Vial Of Sust 250, and 3 vials of Test E 300...dont have the Dbol yet
RustyhookerStats? Priors? You're getting iffy fast