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How to reduce PIP?

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I started off with pharma. Used it in thigh, rear glute, and delt no issues.

Been using a new brand of test cyp 250mg/mL only injecting 50-75mg at once and my delt is totally fine. However when I pin my glute (top outer part of my cheek) I’m getting a lot of PIP with a lump.

Was using 1/2” since subq was doing fine and tried 1”. I do rub the spot after my injection. Never had this with pharma grade. Do I need to try 1.5” or stop using the glute? 1/2” into delt is smooth as butter, never pain

Am I not being aggressive enough rubbing it to spread it? I’ve been doing this for over a year now so not completely new

Drexyl's picture

Unfortunately it’s part of the deal, I’m very sensitive as well. There’s a big thing to consider, as good as some of these sources are, and there’s some outstanding ones, some may not be as particular with their solvents. .2% compared to .3% of a sterilizing agent or preservative may not sound like a huge difference, but it very much is. Just consider that pip as extra precaution, that bit of pip is keeping your gear fresh longer and more sterile. As far as quad injections go, I’m with you, I gave up on them years ago, I’d hit a nerve every other time.

CRAZY DOSER's picture

Bro, sounds like you’ve got a sensitive backside.

Looking at your post, you’re only injecting 0.2mL, so I really don’t get where the pain is coming from with such a tiny amount of oil.

Honestly, this isn’t something to talk about—just keep pinning in your delts and thighs.

Next time, you might want to try switching to a different manufacturer. It sounds like the product you’re using has a higher BB content due to its higher concentration (Test Cyp is typically dosed at up to 200 mg/mL). Try to find something with that concentration instead—it should be smoother.

Hazardtime's picture

I’m not a big fan of thighs. I just think there’s too much vascularity to hit them regularly. But I think I’ll rotate my lats instead of glutes

Dixon_Credible's picture

I'm having a similar issue. The pharma test c @ 200 mg/ml doesn't create the problem.
I'm now trying a well known ugl brand, I inject daily subq 45mg test e @ 250 mg/ml and all the spots are swollen, painful and a bit red. Upper butt cheeks and around the hip area. I had a similar issue trying out some sustanon 350. I'm wondering if anything over 200 mg/ml isn't suitable for subq.

Jockstrap's picture

Do not rub! You injected a bolus of oil then rub which forces it to tear muscle. Look at a steak. Theres no swiss cheese holes. Its solid. So forcing oil to move has to tear meat.

smurfdude1234567's picture

Very true. Besides the wipe of anything if there is anything you don’t want to rub hard. More likely to bruise, move to subQ layer, etc. as you said it has to go somewhere…

Gentle heat is the best way to promote absorption if there is discomfort.

Never ever ice the site as it will thicken the oil and possibly cause knots in the tissue

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Hazardtime's picture

I know people are talking shit just find it odd that this spot makes it hurt to sit when I can use it in my delt and never know a difference. I always heard to rub it so it spreads out, I think I’m going to either try a heating pad or heating the oil or just swapping it for my lats

antwone12's picture

Heating the oil helps me. I sit the filled syringe in front of a small heater on low for just a couple minutes.

smurfdude1234567's picture

Heating pad is the way for all heating! Doesn’t get hot enough to damage the hormone, but over 12 or so hours can re-suspend 99% if crashed gear. I always heat until it’s warm to my lips like a baby bottle now! Makes the shots almost therapeutic especially when pushing 3CC’s+ into your ass lol.

I also love the inverse feeling of getting a big ole’ shot of ice cold peptides subQ!

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press1's picture

Yeh it feels weird when its freezing going into the stomach LMAO

When you haven't bothered warming oils up for ages and then you start doing it again now during the winter, you wonder why you ever stopped. The ease at which that baby slides in is so effortless compared to cold, thick oil.

press1's picture

When I inject that area I often get a lump too, its always done it. Some areas just seem more prone than others and can get more aggravated easily. My shaft often does it too, but until someone tells me you aren't supposed to do that area I am going to keep persevering with it.

Hazardtime's picture

I’m using this spot. Im just doing subq. Rubbing makes sense since its a thicker oil to help spread it but maybe that’s making it worse

https://www.optimale.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Glute-intramuscula...

antwone12's picture

My opinion that's a tad high. I only shoot glutes, Im a poone.You should try that dotted line below injection site or right under in the picture you just posted.

Blck_panda's picture

Its broken, just gotta cut the butt cheek off and throw it away.

Blck_panda's picture

Hahaha yes he did. Beat it like it ows you money.

smurfdude1234567's picture

Spit on that thang!

Nah seriously sounds like he’s missing VG lol.

Feel for your hip bone… watch a YouTube video. And yes- unless you are skinny a 1/2”- 1” is probably subQ in your ass. Especially if you are missing your injection site.

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Hazardtime's picture

I’m using this area

https://www.optimale.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Glute-intramuscula...

And yes I am doing subq, delt may be IM but shallow if anything

smurfdude1234567's picture

That picture makes me think that you may be going too high. Start the quadrant at the tip of your crack. As said below if you mark the spot with a marker and take a pic we could tell you 100%.

But really longer needle, ensure correct spot, warm oil, inject slowly, and heat. You’ll be good my man!

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Blck_panda's picture

Tbh you just need to show it on your body. Take a picture and mark the spot

Hazardtime's picture
Blck_panda's picture

I think you should be more to the left like 2 inches and maybe drop it an inch.
Mark it up again and post.
The guys will provide their input too

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