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First Tren A Cycle, Help Wanted

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Hey guys spyder here!

So I am planning on running my first Tren A 100mg Cycle and would like some info/help for you guys. I have ready my fair share of forum post and the big one the site posted about the myths of Trenbolone and how it was made and where it came from.

So heres why i want you. I have ran two cyles

Test C and Deca

and my most recent was the new Syntrop Sus 450 with tbol

Both i got great results, especially the syntrop 450 (minus the worst pip of my life)

I am running my post Right now and am holding strong at a ripped 200lbs

I plan to run a tren cycle before summer, and i would like your help to know what you guys this is best to run with it!

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Stats are 23 years of age
200 lbs
6 foot
Not known for balding in my family, but i read alot about tren and its effects and would most likely run an AI to keep the DHT down (although tren does not produce dht?) but everyone says to be careful
Great Diet, im a very dedicated person
I dont drink or smoke

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks Guys!

Ryniz's picture

50mg Tren/150mg Prop EOD, get comfortable with sides if they're too much, drop the tren and ramp the prop up whilst adding in another compound
Once good with 50mg EOD (give it 2 weeks to get a feel), Move it up to 100mg eod and move the prop down to 100mg eod too, or leave it at 150mg.. w/e
Stay with this for as long you as can tolerate it, 10 weeks or so

HllwdBdBoy's picture

23 and 2cycles does NOT put you in the tren catagory... I'm sure you are going to argue your point (as they all do) but I, personally, would not and will not co-sign stupidity...

ripitup's picture

I personally love Tren, I cycle 4 weeks on 4 weeks off now;
Tren Acetate 75mg
Test prop 100mg
Drostanolone Acetate 50mg

Every day injections

When on, like someone mentioned below I too become a better version of myself. Stronger, leaner, heavier, more focus, drive, enthusiasm. If I could be on this all the time I would!

I would say it is important to keep an eye on blood pressure whilst on, I also like to get blood work done every 3 - 6 months.

The only sides I notice is that straight after a workout my junk shrins to the size of a peanut lol! goes back to the normal 10inches within a few hours though ;)

Sweating in the evening, the slightest movement starts it off and then sweat sweat sweat!

HUNGRY - ALL THE TIME! its hard to eat clean sometimes, I get binge urges!

Itching, occasionally I have extreme itchy back, it goes after 5 - 10 min but it is horrific!

Due to the amount of sweating and extra work on your system I would recommend more water than normal but im sure once you try tren you will be hooked!

Heathen's picture

Man, guess I have fallen in love with the wrong stuff. Herion of steroids? However I would say that fits it. I researched a lot before using it. Still researching. One thing I concluded was do not use much of it for very long. I do not run an actual cycle of Tren. Save it for those special extra heavy days to maximize the potential gains. Very, very potent stuff. I mix an occasional substitute dose in place of Test 250 or Primo. I also use it between cycles in conjunction with IGF. Mixing a 100mg dose of tren pre workout with 3iu IGF (1.5 each forearm and a 50 gram sugar drink for ghetto slin)post workout. I'll do that twice in one week a few days apart during off cycle on an extra heavy full body day. Then leave both tren and IGF alone for quite a while. Kick back, eat, sleep and just grow. Basically, long story short, I have a fearful respect for Tren and use it as seldom as possible. But it is some gooooood stuff the way I use it. I have no sides and nothing but good results. Be very careful as I have read many horror stories of those who indulged. Here is just one article I found very helpful. http://www.steroid.com/trenbolone-acetate.php

ungeheuer's picture

before my first tren shot, i was afraid of how bad it could affect me. when i realised, that the only sides were a swaety shirt in the morning and weaking up multiple times at night, i was almost disappointed.
oh, and i started looking like a better version of myself.

mastercommand's picture

Brother I was the same way when I was your age. Bodybuilding was my life and still is. But you have to get out and live a little. Get drunk laid by some 2 dollar girl and just have fun. You have one life live it BRO.
There has been little research on gear effects on someone your age. LOL watch Bigger, Faster, Stronger they will tell you that. If you have to run Tren no one is going to change your mind. Better than taking a gun to someone's head (right) at least it your ass instead. Look BRO just do what everyone here on this sight recommends. Do your research try and understand what they are telling you. I wonted to run Tren soooooo bad but after talking to some of the vets there are a lot of good choices other than Tren. You say you never ever smoked weed damn,, (Hydro) is some good shit. You do know after all your reading that Tren is made for cows not for us humans so how can you go against your way of living. Just Talking Shit BRO. Peace.
In the end it is your life to live and no one can tell you how to live it.
A LITTLE WEED AND ALL PIP GO AWAY NEVER SMOKED A DAY IN MY LIFE...LEASON TO THE ELDERS THEY HAVE BEEN WHERE YOU ARE AT ..BE CAREFULL BRO YOUR TO YOUNG TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD.....MY 2 CENTS NOT WORTH MUCH

Heathen's picture

I am 41, just started using the help of gear a few years ago and glad I waited! Very glad as now I have something to look forward to again. Take this mans advice........HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH, YOU HAVE YOUR ENTIRE LIFE TO GET SERIOUS....."But you have to get out and live a little. Get drunk laid by some 2 dollar girl and just have fun. You have one life live it BRO."

mastercommand's picture

Brother I was the same way when I was your age. Bodybuilding was my life and still is. But you have to get out and live a little. Get drunk laid by some 2 dollar girl and just have fun. You have one life live it BRO.
There has been little research on gear effects on someone your age. LOL watch Bigger, Faster, Stronger they will tell you that. If you have to run Tren no one is going to change your mind. Better than taking a gun to someone's head (right) at least it your ass instead. Look BRO just do what everyone here on this sight recommends. Do your research try and understand what they are telling you. I wonted to run Tren soooooo bad but after talking to some of the vets there are a lot of good choices other than Tren. You say you never ever smoked weed damn,, (Hydro) is some good shit. You do know after all your reading that Tren is made for cows not for us humans so how can you go against your way of living. Just Talking Shit BRO. Peace.
In the end it is your life to live and no one can tell you how to live it.
A LITTLE WEED AND ALL PIP GO AWAY NEVER SMOKED A DAY IN MY LIFE...LEASON TO THE ELDERS THEY HAVE BEEN WHERE YOU ARE AT ..BE CAREFULL BRO YOUR TO YOUNG TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD.....MY 2 CENTS NOT WORTH MUCH

sidorov12321's picture

tren a+ prop+stan =its most exelent cyles
and for great exelent+ hgh!!!!

spyderwebb's picture

what doses (mg) bro?!!!

spyderwebb's picture

I knew this would be a topic to flare the noses of some of the "elders" on here. I never meant to piss someone off because of my age. I understand that the dangers of tren, but ALL STEROIDS are dangerous. I've read my forums and done my research, I just look to you guys for that extra help. Everyone has their opinion and what not but dont blast a guy for asking for help. Like UNGEHEUER said, gothic does have a nice post about trenbolone and maybe some of you guys should read it.

Unlike most guys my age that are juicing, buying anthing that looks like oil from their buddies, partying their assed off, and taking drugs, IM NOT

I work in the nutrition business and i'm a health nut and haven't ever even smoked a cig or weed. I only drink occasionally and thats for maybe a holiday.

Lifting and developing my body is a passion to me, so all I ask is that i just wanted your info on help, not to be criticized by you.

for those that have helped me thanks

ungeheuer's picture

i have no fucking clue whats everybodys problem with tren. how will x more test cycles prepare him for tren ? why shouldnt he start now ? because of high natty test levels ? lol. that would be what ? maybe 70 mgs/week compared to 50 ?
i see absolutely no problem running tren at an early age. sides are very overexaggerated, kidney damage from tren is a myth, nightsweats and insomnia suck, but are tolerable. i dont think taking tren is worse than regularly getting drunk at weekends for overall health. the younger you are, the better your test levels recover anyway.
you either tolerate tren or you dont, so start low, maybe 50 mgs eod and ramp up the dose. i wouldnt go to high with test either, higher test than tren aswell as "test has to be the base of your cycle" is another broscience classic, ive run several cycles without test and never go higher than 50 mgs prop eod and never had problems with libido or erections. with higher test i only got more side effects. Masteron would also be a nice addition. i also would recommend hcq at the end of your cycle.

i think the most boards are way too conservative towards dosages and compounds. even medical studies tend to go way higher than most boards (like 150 mg oxys for about 30 weeks on aids patients). gothic has a nice post about this on the general discussion board, too.

-Guido-'s picture

It's not just the sweats and insomnia. Tren can make you edgey as hell. It's the mental side effects that are a bitch to deal with when it comes to Tren IMO. I admit it gives me a terribly short temper and I thank God everyday I am patient and have self control because otherwise I would be fired from my job for beating customers and coworkers senseless.

MAC's picture

I like your view in this I never bash ppl cuz of age I just give my opinions cuz I know sleep is non existent on tren and I already have sleep problems. I think a young buck will recuperate from tren quicker than an older guy with more health issues. Fucking arnold ran dbol year round back in the day. Roids are what u make them ppl need to stop getting so defensive about tren like its the devil or something. Just keep your doses low-ish and you'll be fine. If you can't handle sides then its not for you simple as that there's no need to wait 6 more cycles if ur not gna tolerate the sides now you wont then either. Im gna get flamed for this but so what its just my honest opinion, ill still never recommend tren for a kid.

MAC's picture

Im 28 and still haven't ran tren or deca for that matter. I have 7 cycles under my belt, but my question is this, if u are seeing great results with sust/tbol/deca then why go to tren? If u rly wanna cut that bad do a prop/mast cycle

livingthedream's picture

Have you gotten bloodwork done recently? I would be very curious to see where your baseline natty test and igf-1 values are. If you are holding a ripped 200lbs, embrace it, enjoy it and chase all the tail you can.

IMO, save the gear or sell it for now. You've probably got 2-3 years more at least of productive natural development available to you.

Although many of us run Tren, I do not recommend it for someone so early in the game as you.

Trenabolic's picture

Brother you are to young to be running AAS, since you have obviously thrown caution out the window already i will say tren is no good for some with such little cycle experience. Tren should be left for those with far more cycle exp then what you have at the moment.

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sc2216's picture

You need Prami or Caber (dostinex) but as mazar said, 23 years old, you should stay awaaaaaay from tren for another 5 year at least, but I guess your mind is already made up.

bigdaddy1690's picture

as its your first time just some test prop will be ok just to see how well you react to the tren and sides then if that cycle goes ok then maybe try another cycle but up the dosage and then after that one you can think of adding another compound