posted Sun, 04/21/2013 - 07:03
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Experts: 100% EO oil in Long Esters?
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Chime in if you have actual knowledge of this: For sources that brew in 100% EO, is that more likely to cause pain or irritation or the person using it to have a bad reaction? From what I've read, it seems that 100% EO is used in short esters with high concentration. So if you get a something with 225mg of Primo or 400mg of EQ made in EO should that raise concern? Thanks
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Great replies, thanks fellas... How long from the time gear is brewed to the time of use can can it be held for months? Is there a time frame from brew to use where it no longer is good?
If its a UGL and all the proper solvent/carrier ratios are spot on it should keep for a couple years. But after a year or so I don't know if i'd bother. Pharma you'll have a little more time
EO is Less likely to cause pain and irritation at the injection site. Provided you aren't allergic. Some ppl are. But EO is a super thin, super light synthetic oil. I always used it in my chemistry experiments with AAS (most notably tren and test P). Great carrier oil even if the compound isn't dosed high. Now guaicol (the solvent used to help suspend TNE and high mg/ml compounds) you can keep that shit! I hate it. I have adverse effects from it.
the whole point of EO is so that you can use higher concentrations without crashing. but some people react badly to EO, and some don't. i doubt anyone would use 100% EO, you still need some BA for antibacterial purposes.
here's some more info you might find useful
http://www.basskilleronline.com/ethyl-oleate-steroids.shtml
When I said 100% EO, I meant 100% carrier, not EO + Hormone = 100% of the solution! In case anybody mis-understands me, please do not brew without an anti-microbial agent! Not unless you plan on competing in the paralympics with missing limbs anyway.
I love Ethyl Oleate. But it can be a double edged sword. I'll avoid all of that, because I'll be writing paragraph after paragraph.
But the main reasons not to use it for long ester:
Some people don't react well to EO. For some reason, they just react badly to it, like a minor allergic reaction. I have my theories on this that I'm currently testing. But yeah, some people get swelling and all that fun stuff.
It's more expensive than GSO/CSO etc. So people will ask "Why pay for something when you can get something else that does the job just as well for half the price?". Not to say I agree with this, because there are many variables, but some might ask what is the point in using EO when you're making 250mg/ml Testosterone Enanthate or 300mg/ml EQ?
For personal use, I use 100% EO... That's just because I have an abundance of it, so the cost isn't a worry. I don't react badly to it. It makes my injections absolutely painless, and allows me to make things like 500mg/ml Deca and 600mg/ml Test E.
Some say EO makes long esters more prone to crashing... I haven't found this to be the case, in my experience. In fact, the complete opposite.
As a source, it all comes down to how much time you have on your hands and how flexible you want to be.
Also note that it's been said that EO 'eats' plastic (butyl stoppers)... just a thought. If you plan on selling it, keep it in mind that some people keep vials for months without using them.
I LIKE YOUR POSTS THIS FAR! Keep it up!
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