posted Thu, 10/03/2019 - 04:49
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Ethyl oleate
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Hey guy's just wondering if anybody has any experience dealing with ethyl oleate reactions? I've been using the same source for a year now and had no bad reactions to there test e 250 but recently I've had bad pip swelling and hot to the touch but no infection. Turns out there using ethyl oleate and I have three 10 ml vials and would prefer not to throw them in the trash.
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You could try cutting it with some sterile grape seed oil or another sterile carrier oil. It will be more oil to inject but will dilute EO and possibly lighten the reaction
RustyhookerWhats your current cycle? Whats your priors? I got a few tricks that may help
Always ran test only. Currently using 400mg a week test cyp and soon will be adding in 25 mg of provirion every day.
RustyhookerEagles above has ya. In the dropdowns up top...ancillaries section. Theres venders with sterile grape seed oil or other common oils we use. You can try starting 1/4cc blended into a cc and see if that ratio helps. Might mean a few extra shots per week but cut out any pip, soreness from the eo.
25ga pin too is a lifesaver. Greg got me to try a cycle years ago with smaller pin. Its slower but well worth it.
Your reply was needed first because i cut or blen my gear with eq or masteron. I like a small stack when i can over going with a big crazy cycle. Both eq and mast have no pip...or not that ive ever had and they can compliment a basic test cycle if research is done. Eq is a long cycle when you stack. Mast enth works nice in a 12 week run. I like mast at half my test dose. Run bloods week 5 to see if ai needed and adjust there.
Provi i do like from week 4ish til i start pct. Free test and nice libido boost.
Right there with you. I love the 25 g pins for injection. I typically draw with a 23 tgen change to a 25 for injection.
Same here. I learned to pin with a 23g and just stuck with it until I saw some vets on here talking about 25's so I figured I would give them a shot (no pun intended).
Fun fact- I used to work in medical sales and we were trained to present the following when pitching syringe/needle combos:
1) 23g and larger for oil based injections
2) 25/27g for vaccines
3) 29-30+ for water based and insulin.
I still stick to it for the most part other than using 25's for oil.
I do wonder if any of the docs/nurses I presented to ever made the connection between me being abnormally large for a salesman and knowing way too much about needles, syringes, preo material and injection techniques...
RustyhookerWell.....my dr didnt blink when i asked for bloods to check on trt. Lol. Ive got no doubt those drs with you had the ummm hummm....lol
Haha I don't doubt it either brother. I'm sure the front desk would buzz them when I showed up and say "The meat head who always brings donuts is here for your 10:00".
BigCactusMane after trying 25's I could never go back to those 23G daggers lol. Thicker gear like a certain pharma grade brand is a bit difficult to inject but heating the gear up a bit solves it all.
It's crazy how big a 23g looks once you get used to looking at 25's lol.
Alphamale500I still like the good old 23's for glutes. But I'll use 25's in certain situations, especially when injecting delts.
I hear you. I don't mind 23's in the glutes and quads but 25's are a must for upper body. I can't imagine pinning pecs with a 23.
Alphamale500Yep!+
RustyhookerIts all gregs fault for taunting me to try em. Lol! I was sold on a 23 for way too many years.
Hey man thanks for the info I like that idea using a small stack wit eq or mast to blend it it's appreciated bro
RustyhookerWhen you get to that point please read as much as you can before hand and feel free to ask. Early on in cycles, a lil bit goes a long way. It really is the food and gym thats the golden key.
Yea I'm seeing there's alot of good info on here to read. I have cleaned up my diet and am lifting alot. Thanks for making yourself available and sharing good info it's what I've been looking for.
A lot of guys react poorly to EO. Why your source suddenly used it is a question you should ask him.
Yea they switch it up on me so I complained about what is going on so they offered me something else but of course I had to pay for it then part of that order was missing. Not to happy with them anymore
BigCactusA well known source on this forum has 2 variations (different regions) of test-e both 250mg one has eo and the other doesn't. It's kinda weird tbh, it was the first and only time I've ever come across eo in my gear. It seems like everyone else frowns upon it for the ovious reasons.
BigCactusI hate eo, for the fact that it eats away the rubber of your syringe, making it harder to inject smoothly and like you said the pip. I cut it with test that has no eo, works for me.
I was actually thinking about that. That might be the best bet
Maybe the source is using another brand now or add more BB or BA
How much BA or BB would you add?
Alphamale500Do you really think that question contains appropriate content?? Smh.
Apparently not. I'm a rookie here trying to learn bro lesson learned
Alphamale500That's cool, lesson learned! And +1 for realizing and speaking like a gentleman!
Thanks bro
seriously?
Alphamale500I know right!! Smh! Unbelievable!
Sorry but that is what you were saying right? School me bro
PallMallDiluting your oil with more ba or bb would be a poor choice anyway. EO is a powerful solvent though, why your source would make test e 250 with it is beyond me. You could try cutting the oil with MCT oil or sterile grape seed though to see if making the EO content less per mL will help.
Alphamale500Good or bad, like it or hate it, adding EO to oil will certainly make the gear much thinner and easier to flow through needles of mostly all sizes. So this could very well be a good reason for a src to use it in their test enanthate 250 or any gear, especially since very thin gear is highly sought after these days.
What you suggested should help to lower the concentration of it.
RustyhookerNot using eo is the first start....
Alphamale500Hey Rusty! If he doesn't like the way his body reacts to eo, then sure, not using eo would be his best option! But he was asking about how to lower the concentration of eo in the gear he already has.
"You could try cutting the oil with MCT oil or sterile grape seed though to see if making the EO content less per mL will help."
So I was just saying that this statement that he wrote would help lower the overall eo content in the gear he already has, if he didn't wanna toss it.
RustyhookerThe op hasnt even replied yet but yes theres many ways to blend or cut it. If op dont participate, im not gonna waste time explaining it for him. Lol
Alphamale500Your right. I was referring to the comment above mine.
Hey definitely appreciate the info you guys are giving me here. Thought I might mix it with some other test that I have to dilute it down a bit. What are your thoughts on it?
Hey sorry didn't mean to post anything about raws or recipes I was replying to what I thought he was meaning. Thanks for the help it's appreciated.