posted Sun, 07/05/2026 - 15:54
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+ 5 EQ VS BOLD CYP
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People tend to react differently to esters of the same compound. That being said…
Anyone have enough experience with these two to comment on any differences they noticed if any? Feel? Gains? Looks? Bloods? Penis girth?
Lets hear it.
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My penis stayed the same on bold cyp unfortunately but definitely added decent size.Mt-2 might add size to the penile region so ive heard from fellow mt2ers
Good thread. I had a bad experience with EQ but I have some bold Cyp on deck.
Care to share your experience? Just curious since I'll be running EQ for the first time soon!
I ran it at a ratio of 3:1 test to EQ and was also running Deca. I guess I’m extremely sensitive to the AI effect of the drug. I tried throwing in some Dbol for a couple of days but decided it would be best to just cut the cycle off and let the EQ clear. I couldn’t train for a couple of weeks because my joints were those of an 80 year old woman.
Appreciate the reply. That sucks. But the good thing is that there are alternative anabolics that have AI-like effects as well.
I use Masteron every cycle now because although it doesn’t work as an AI, it permits me to run my E2 higher without growing a set of C cups. I’m comfortable with my E2 pretty high but if I start get broken up when Bambi’s mom dies, I pop 12.5 mgs of aromasin and then add 15 mg per day of primo.
Wanted to return to this again.
Week five tomorrow and here’s what I have experienced with Bold Cyp so far:
Noticeable strength increase, not out of this world but PR’d in deadlift and bench since starting
Veins and a shit ton of them.
No appetite increase, none at all.
Cardio boost is very apparent. I’m not a BB so this has been my favorite benefit so far. I can run forever. I ran 4 miles this week in under 35 minutes. My lifting sessions can go much longer before exhaustion, and will still end with a 1-2 mile jog after.
My HIIT workouts are significantly easier. Whether it’s a Murph or a Marsoc workout, my HR does not elevate nearly as high before using.
getting a thorough panel end of week so we will see about HCT, and E2.
around week 2, I felt like I had low e2 sides like joint pain and irritability, but adding TNE and occasional DBOL as PWO seemed to do mitigate that.
The mug warmer pre injection has been great to keep in solution and I’ve only had PIP once (bad pin).
my monthly rythym test has actually shown a decrease in LDL and no effect on HDL. Triglycerides are fine too. Again, I’ll be doing a sensitive and thorough panel later this week.
No increase in girth, damnit!
I plan to run for 14 weeks unless bloods show a different plan.
Oh, I settled in at 412 test/ 270 Bold with 37.5 TNE PWO on lift days with an occasional 12.5 DBOL in the mix, as well. This has felt good with Rhythm showing e2 at 35 for what’s that’s worth. I’ll rely on the sensitive assay when I get that back.
My quest panel showed all lipids in range, Apob 96. TT 4482, FT 1613 and E2 14 (welp). Definitely get E2 control but thank goodness for TNE and Dbol. Kidney markers in range but going south from my pre blast bloods. Hematocrit 48. Oh, and recently saw an uptick in appetite.
I wanted to like it, but was cautious. Instead, I love Bold Cyp. Not sure I’ll run it again when done, but it’s been fun. The kidney trajectory is concerning, so I plan to wrap up the last week of September.
Appreciate the experience breakdown. Did you get any bloodwork done for your kidneys? I'm wondering because of the animal studies that show kidney damage/scarring from EQ. Also, besides the veins, did you see any other changes in your physique that you would attribute to the EQ?
So I just posted my Quest panel above your post. My kidney numbers are in range but are definitely going south. I’m going to wrap up a couple of weeks earlier than planned. I have added about 6 pounds of lean muscle according to my home dexa (not the most accurate) my weight has gone from 173 to 181. I’ve seen my bench go from 295 to 320. Hex bar deadlift from 505 to 525. My arms are noticeably bigger and abs are bigger. (Hard to explain but the muscles look wider rather than like a cheese grater) I don’t know how to describe them. Also, neck is thicker. Waist is still at 30. Much more definition in my quads and calves. I’m a small framed guy, so I still look like I have chicken legs if I wear longer shorts. So I’m sporting Daisy Dukes now…lol.
I want to come back to this again. Ten days ago I said fuck it, and started my bold Cyp blast starting with 412 test and 210 bold Cyp. Obviously there isn’t a lot to report on quite yet, but it does start to crash every two days. About 5 minutes of warming it up fixes it now unlike the 20 when I started the vial. I have a bit more vascularity, but i can say that when I do cardio my HR is isnt as high as normal. Today I did a Murph in very hot conditions and my HR never went above 172. At this point it could be anecdotal, but I’ll keep you posted as I continue. Right now, I think this compound compliments my workouts.
I am running equipoise undecylenate at the moment and I'm getting stellar gains.
The trick is to frontload it I thought it was bullshit but I did some research and it's used in the medical field all of the time.
So I take double the desired dose of eq for about a week or two. And the just old until I feel it's time to increase the dose. Whenever I want to increase the dose I go double the new dose for 1 or 2.
Now for the sides equipoise has cause some minor anxiety but selank at 1000 to 2000 mg fixed of all that.
How to keep hematocrit and rbc in range hydration is key. I weight 190 pounds and drink 2 gallons of water per day and do 45 minutes of cardio zone 2 5 times per week. I have done 2 blood test and haven't had a single issue with my hematocrit.
These are just some ideas your mileage may vary so try it out for yourself.
I just realized I never used EQ, only Bold Cyp this whole time
Wait never mind, other way around. Lol I just thought they were both EQ
Im glad you posted this.. I was under the impression that Bold cyp was the fucking shit but based off the comments.. it doesnt sound like it. Never was an EQ fan either. Ill keep with DHB and NPP going forward then... really liking this DHB, and its still super early
I’ve only ever used EQ as an anabolic AI. Maybe I’ll use it full on in cycle at some point.
Has It being always been known as a "AI"? A decade or so ago I don't remember anyone talking about its AI qualities. Who knows, maybe the reason I hate it is because my last EQ cycle in 2013 could have been crashed e2 and always hungry.. those 2 dont sound like a good combo whatsoever.
For me no, back in the day (98) I never heard it talked about being used as an ai. I’ve ran a shit ton of it back in the day, and I never used it as an AI, but I always ran my test high as shit and a hefty amount of EQ and never had high E2 symptoms.
I can’t comment on that. I’ve only been in this world 6 years.
I'm scared of EQ because of its effect on hematocrit and RBC. Am I soft for that? :(
You don’t know until you take it.
Yes. Drink more water and that doesn’t happen to most. If you’re the unlucky few it does then I’m sorry
Yo man, I appreciate you creating this thread!
Seeing your comment and a few others about just keeping cyp in solution almost makes EQ more worth it to me already.
That’s the boat I’m in. Painless injection. Fuss free.
Bold cyp or EQ, needs to be a 15-20 week cycle either way.
Easily Tripled my girth.
Pics or it didn’t happen!
I used bold cyp for the first time this year and won’t go back to eq again. I like the short kick in time and I like that it’s not in my system for 3 months after I stop. I’ve got a stash of eq and I’ll probably never use it. I’ve only gotten it from one source but the pip is almost non existent.
Love to hear it. You talked me into getting some
I do whatever you do it seems like, i promise im not copying ya! But.. maybe ill get some too!
Great minds think alike homie
Ha, these forums are great at making money fly out of my pocket.
Yours makes it to your pockets? Lol
Shorter ester always made more sense to me. EQ’s half life is super long, and takes months to just clear out of your system.
Although high doses bold don’t agree with me, bold Cyp was great at controlling e2. T!t^ñ$ has a great pip free bold cyp
Eq vs eq ace.....Ace was super fast amplified simply because of Ester but same parent hormone so same reaction.
Except.....Ace was fkn bat to any part pinned no matter how I blended it.
I'd guess cyp is simply faster. And looking at cited forum... Tests is not Test....id guess that better mass as well from longer esters.
Interested in penis girth differences between cyp and eq
I would love to peer review your girth studies.
If someone decides to comment on that I hope they provide pictures… for science of course.
I don’t want to see that but I will look at them for the sake of learning.
Here to see some responses I’m super interested in trying bold cyp. I’ve always loved eq but it’s such a long drawn out cycle all I’ve read really makes bold cyp to be a great compound. I have heard it’s pretty spicy tho
I really liked it at first. I really wanted to like it.
This one is a lot of hype, IMO.
Had half a vial left and went ahead and tossed it.
Care to elaborate more?
First let me say, it’s been a while since I used EQ.
I wasn’t getting the hunger pains or the ai control that I remember getting from EQ. And those are the two main reasons to use EQ for me. So, I really just wasn’t seeing enough. On top of that, the bold cyp solution seems to crash more and more as the contents of the vial get lower. Getting it back into solution became frustrating.
I just wasn’t seeing enough positives to justify the use. None really. So I began thinking let’s cut this out and put something else in.
Yep around week 4-5 on EQ my appetite increases a lot, I was taking bold cyp for 5 weeks with no change in appetite. It did still lower my E2 because I had a few mornings I woke up feeling like shit. TNE & dbol to get me back but I just stopped taking it. Had high hopes for it
I just spent 20 minutes trying to get it back into the solution as I was going to start today. I remember when you started it. What was your ratio?
I’m rethinking everything now. I have some mast and NPP on the way and was thinking I might go that route instead. I just like my hair.
I will say all my vials were crashed but the one I opened, I’ve only had to warm it up once & it hasn’t crashed since. So luckily I didn’t deal with that, I was just running 350 Test 140 Bold Cyp, was eventually going to go much higher.
I hear ya bro, I tried Masteron for 8 weeks & it seriously hit my hairline on one side. Never again lol & I’m on dutasteride so I can’t take npp unfortunately. That’s why EQ was my go to
It only gets worse as you go through the vial.
I was injecting daily so it was extra frustrating.
Not enough positives to deal with all the headache. Literal and figurative.
That would be very frustrating for what seems to be no real benefit over undecylenate based on this thread and just parsing through other experiences on other forums/threads/etc.
The only benefit of bold cyp is you might feel it hit a couple weeks earlier.
It’s “new”. Its just hype.
I had to get a mug warmer and I let it sit in that every morning, it added about 15 minutes to my routine but it’s worth it to me.
Well fuck it, I just pinned it for the first time. If I hate it I can always stop.