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I have run more then a handful of cycles.I have only run EQ once.I have 3 general questions.I haven't had a lot of time since my last cycle.I just finished PCT after a 3 1/2 month run .It was a test cycle with only 400mg deca.So I was thinking, would it be ok to start pinning EQ only (2months after last cycle) for a month then adding in the test.My thought here is since its so mild maybe it wont interefere too much to start getting it loaded.As a general question,what are the thoughts on starting EQ without full recovery window? Question 2 ;proper loading,would it be triple the amount over the course of the first week? If I were to run 600 how much would I load the first week 1800?2400? can it be more? Last question.I hear a lot of people dose at 600mg and love it .Can you safely go higher? much higher? Say 1 gram? or will that cause serious complications and why?I would imagine RBC count would go higher and higher but how serious is that?I have done research but these answers were always just opinions .Couldn't find hard science,so looking for either more educated opinions or science. Thanks for any thoughts and info.I am sure the answers will be helpful to more than just me.....Oh and Last.Outside of test,what compound do you feel provides the best synergy with EQ? A why would be helpful as well.

Bowyer2's picture

Small point here, but worth a mention.

You might here EQ provides optimal results at 600mg/week and then beyond that the return is diminished.
Keep in mind that there is a 99.99% chance that my EQ is dosed differently than your EQ along with everyone else's. That being said, I think you should allow for some variance there, but then again, that could be tough since you have never ran it and have no comparison.

You would be shocked by the difference in dosage between sources and even batches amongst the same source.

tzelukie's picture

Cycle history. DETAILED! Deca is a hard long shut down
EQ is only mild from an estro side effect/aggression position-Do more research on it for your self before you listen to someone you don't know. Now that being said we all care and take safety first and foremost so you may not get the answers you want to hear.
BLOODS would be a deciding factor since you ran for 3 months. I have no good advice for you without these two pieces of information
EQ is my favorite compound and I will say that above 600 your not getting bang for your buck. Also EQ has a nasty habit of turning your blood into peanut butter if your not careful... As well as skyrocketing Blood pressure. It is NOT as mild as people portray, this mentality has contributed to people stroking out on it...

cry_havoc's picture

You will have an easier time getting some help if you actually post up some of your previous cycles. Deca takes forever to recover from and unless you were on a power PCT program (This is where your cycle history helps us), I doubt you are anywhere near as recovered as you think you are. Also getting some labs drawn will tell you more than any advice on this board. Hopefully you had labs drawn before you started your last cycle so you have some kind of a reference to go on.

Equipoise can be run safely in higher doses but there really is no benefit to doing so. Its called the law of diminishing returns. The point where more isn't better.

Why don't you post up some of your previous cycles so we can get a feel for your experience.

(You could have done ten cycles of deca only at 1000 mg a week and that would tell everybody what they would need to know about you)

BeastMode5085's picture

to answer your questions:

  1. Time on + PCT= Time off. Stick to it. There is zero reason to jeopordize your natty production. I have heard of running EQ on its own but I would never do it. I have heard nothing and been taught nothing other than needing test as a base to any good cycle. (I am sure there are some out there that say otherwise). If you want to help with EQ kicking in on your next cycle, add in bold cyp or bold ace as a kick. FYI bold ace can bite like a bitch. Don't screw with your body more than you already are man.

  2. If you front load, general rule of thumb is double to dose. In the case of EQ that can get pricey since most EQ is 200 or 250mg. For the dose, start with 600, if you get results you like then stay there. There is no reason to go higher unless you notice a reduced effect. Personally I like 800mg and have ran 3 or 4 cycles like that. Havent needed to go up at all. Just remember eventually you will need more and more, so why do that to yourself now. No need to pump in a gram of anything unless you are some bodybuilding pro.

Going higher on EQ can be dangerous if you arent watching your RBC. High RBC count leads to the blood thickening which can inturn (over time) lead to stroke, blood clot or pulmonary embolism. I donate every chance I can 6-8 weeks to keep it in check. The mayo clinic (where I grabbed that info from ) has numerous studies on it. Its actually a condition, having high RBC

3). Synergy with EQ depends on your expereience with other compounds and what your goals are. I have seen EQ run with just about everything. There are a lot of factors involved. Remember food is your base, so focus on what EQ supplements in your diet and build from there.

If I were you, i would list all the compounds/cycles you have done. Then do some research on EQ cycles and when you feel confident go in the the cycle log section and create one. You will get more specific and better help there.

BawsDawg's picture

how long before RBC/hematocrit levels are elevated?
just got bloods done on Test E and EQ and the rbc/hematocrit is within the normal range. Just trying to find out if I got bloods too soon or if its bunk

BeastMode5085's picture

not sure, cant find anything to back any opinion I have so ill just tell you what i do.. typically I donate 2 weeks prior to first pin, then 6 weeks later (4 weeks on cycle), then week 12 of cycle and week 20 (which is usually PCT for me unless I run a 20 week eq cycle)

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