+ 2 Sustanon/EQ Cycle
Over the last 5 years I have run probably 10 cycle with the first 6 essentially being misusing orals with oils for 2 months at a time.Susequently screwing up natural production.Lat I checked I was around 200.I have run a few full cycle with PCT. usually 2 oils and 1 oral.I have run Deca a few times ,tren once,all the oral and all versions of test.Like I said I was basically misusing drugs.In the last couple years I have been eating right and training hard and doing plenty of research to make improvements.especially changing up training routines every couple months.Unfortunatly with gear,I need high levels to really get an edge.I screwed up and that's where I am.I am not interested in any more bulking cycle.Its just not comfortable for me any more nor do I like the ups and downs in weight.I also would prefer stayinf away from the Decas and Tren.I love DBOL,but I am actually even having second thoughts on running that.my blood pressure gets jacked and I bloat even with a good diet. I will be running a 5 month cycle.I have sustanon on hand and I love it.Does anyone see an issue with running sustanon for 5 months? I am thinking about running sust the fir 8-10 then switching over to cypionate. I am planning on running the sustanon 925 per week then dropping to 600 on cyp.i think this is when the EQ will be active ,which I will be running at 600mg and considering upping that.my question is about dropping the test levels and switch to cypionate at the 8 week mark.Is this a bad ideal? I was considering running the sust even higher at 1050 for 8 weeks.i usually run my test around 800 and its not crazy effective anymore....I am looking for lean muscle mass .I just want to be able to run a nice clean 3000 calorie diet and run a 6 day a week training schedule with only 2 heavy lifting days .I was also going to put masteron in the mix.How long can a go with it. would 400mg for 3 months be ok? or go the 600? That would be 600 each cypionate /masteron/EQ sounds like a great combo to me. maybe up the EQ to 800 and drop the mast to 400? Any thoughts what help.i really should just go with the safest levels that will provide definite benefits ,in that case where would I be on the masteron? Thanks....I will also be running HGH here.
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Welcome to Eroids... Were number one for all the reasons you listed above. The guys on here will shoot you straight, good bad or indifferent.
No problem pal, glad to help. +1 for going about it the right way and doing so with the right attitude. If you need any help, feel free to PM me.
Nice post dude, honesty seems to be out of the norm lately. Dbombs has you pretty much all wrapped up. Just make sure you donate, EQ will turn your blood into peanut butter.
Looks like your all pretty much covered. It's nice to see somebody post with some honesty. I see a lot of me in what you wrote. Good luck
RustyhookerDbol has a good layout up top. Staying lean is completely food. Good part of eq for me is endurance so cardio is a snap. Bad part is hunger pangs but the Var kills appetite and boosts strength and hardens.
Shredded during winter is different but if food and gym are on point staying lean is achievable. Shredded is way above my level. 10% imo is great for definition and adding mass. Shredded is not easy to maintain at least for me.
Master on e.....I like it to keep estro in check and just keep drier. If you run dbol layout, 300mg should be fine. Too low on estro and gains halt. Keep ai on hand if needed. Bloods as dbol laid out are key.
Saw palmetto for me keeps the dht in check. Any health store has it and directions on bottle.
Hey pal - I've run a sust eq cycle a few times and it's one of my favorites for lean gains. I posted one here a while back that may point you in the right direction: http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/8th-cycle-4th-in-the-past-3-years-sust-...
Personally, I like running sust Monday, Wednesday, & Friday. I believe it gives me the most stable levels while on sust. I also love var as a finisher on this cycle; it really brought out my vascularity nicely after being on eq for a while. I find that front loading the eq helps it kick in a few weeks sooner. If your goal is lean gains, I don't think you need that much test but with 10 cycles under your belt, you should have a good idea of what works for you.
Definitely monitor your bp, donate blood at least two times on this cycle, and get pre, mid, and post bloods. They're absolutely worth the money. I also find that a baby aspirin every day on cycle helps keep my bp in check.
Hope this helps. Good luck with your cycle!
I am assuming you broke up the Sust 250 into 125 on Monday, Wednesday and Friday? Thats how you came up with the 525 per week more or less? (Actually 514) Also why did you jump from 600 to 900 on your third week instead of just starting out with 900? I do not understand how you ran this cycle?
Since my sweet spot for test is around 500mg/week, I had to go with a 350mg/ml sust blend doesed 1/2 cc Monday, Wed, Friday. I used EQ 300 and dosed it at 1cc Mon, Wed, Fri.
The 600mg of EQ on week 3 was a typographical error on my part; it should have read 900. I just corrected it. Thanks!
I should also mention that in my experience with EQ, 600mg/week is the best does to begin running it. I've run 5 cycles with EQ and my first 3 were dosed at 600mg but started to see diminishing returns to a degree. Less is often more and I think EQ fits that so to the OP, I would run at least your first EQ cycle at 600 before considering a higher dose.
OK makes sense now. I agree there is a diminishing return beyond 600 mg. Eq is one of my favorite compounds. What compounds are in the Sust 350 mg? That's a new designer one for the ages for sure and did you notice a harder time with water retention on the 350 verses the 250?
Eq is one of my favorites too. The sust I used is a blend of testosterone propionate, testosterone phenylpropionate, testosterone isocaproate and testosterone decanoate but I don't remember the dosing. PM me if you want the name of the lab.
I've used sust 250 bf as well and I didn't notice any difference in water retention. I kept a strict high protein diet throughout with a little carb cycling. This plus the eq, arimadex, and var kept bloating in check.
Thats the same as Sust 250 so there wouldn't be a difference between the 350 and the 250. I thought perhaps it had additional 100 mg of Enanthate or Cyp. I might do a specific post on Sust. One that might shed light on how it works in our cycle. I wrote one last year I think on different ester working together which gave a brief synopsis of how sust works but not an entire cycle and what the daily test release would be.
Here is a link to my original post.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/how-do-different-esters...
Been away for awhile logged back in the other day and ran into all kinds of fucked up threads with some shitty advice. Nice job
Thanks pal. I appreciate it!
RustyhookerBoom! +2
Hope he picks your brain bro
Thanks Rusty! I bet my cycle looks familiar... you may have noticed you helped me with it back in the day
Simple cycle with mild compounds that will help him achieve his goals as long as his diet is on point.
RustyhookerI've run that stack before. Can you post stats please. You want to finish lean? Or add some mass?
And why pct? You say you're trt or misread?
I like this post....