posted Fri, 12/16/2016 - 11:27
2015
Aromasin through PCT
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Hi Guys,
I'm currently 5 weeks into my first Test E run. I'm doing 12 weeks and finishing at 500mg/wk of test. I'm currently running 6.25mg of aromasin ed to keep e2 dialed in.
My PCT is going to be this.
Starting week 14:
Clomid: 25/25/12.5/12.5
Torem: 60/60/30/30
DAA: 0/0/3/3/3/3
Aromasin: ?/?/?/?
I was also going to continue my aromasin into the pct as I heard it's beneficial. Won't this drive my e2 levels too low when I stop putting the test into my body? Should I switch my dose to eod instead of ed?
Thanks,
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Clomid is the most important drug for pct, run it at atleast standard dose- 100-50-50-50 or you will regret it, also nolva is beneficial. As for aromasin in pct, your only taking 500 a week and your already taking aro daily, do you think your estro is going to be high at the end of cycle? I would only add if i had high numbers at that time so you need bloods to evaluate, other wise if you already have low estrogen you will crash it and fuck your shit up, i dont know why you dont just run nolva-clomid pct you already done well by doing a sensible cycle why fhck it up with exotic pcts stick with tried and tested.
This is where I'm at.
I can't take nolva because of Paxil. Look at my other post.
I'm going to base my Asin PCT based on my bloods at week 8. I'm currently running Asin at 6.25mg ed. If I'm at say 75 E2 when I test, then I'll probably run Asin at 6.25 ed for 2 weeks and then 6.25 eod for two weeks. Let's say my blood says my E2 is at 30, then I'll probably just do 6.25mg eod for 2 weeks and then just discontinue.
Ok, 30 huh? And what were you at before cycle?
What about 30? And my Test was 365, and E2 was <5 lol
You said if estro is at 30 you will do aro for 2 weeks. I think normal rAnge is 18- 40 so if at 30 why would you. Just get bloods its all you can do.
Well,
I just figured there was more benefit using it besides just E2 control. Heard it can help kickstart HPTA w the serms. Also, wouldn't test still aromatize a little bit for those 2 weeks until it's out of the system?
Taking Aromasin during PCT after a long Test E run is quite justified. The need to apply aromatase inhibitors will exist for at least 3-4 weeks after the last injection of Test E. It’s not simple to give recommendation on how to regulate your E2 levels, because it’s a very individual moment. Try to continue using Aromasin during the first two weeks after the last injection of Test E, just like you were doing it and form 2-4 week try eod. Of course the most accurate scheme can be given based on your blood tests.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/aromasin-you...
Here's a link from the PCT section by Irish Mack regarding Aromasin.
Standard PCT regimens, like some guys noted below, are with Nolvadex and Clomid. If you get off the normal beaten PCT path, you'll wished you ran a standard PCT come time to get bloodwork.
I've ran Aromasin during a PCT. It was after a standard high dosed tri-compound cycle. The doses I used were 6.25/6.25/3.12/3.12 and the frequency was ed. Post cycle BW had my E2 at 27.
So, if I were you, I would get some BW and get an idea what your aromatization rate is at 5 weeks on the standard dose and frequency of your test cycle. I'm sure you could benefit from exemestane during PCT, but it would be great if you could provide an E2 value, too. Thanks. I hope you're eating right...
Hi MedDx,
Great post.. here's some basic info.
Also, for those asking, I'm going w Torem and not Nolva, because I'm on 40mg of Paxil and it fights for the same enzyme which makes Nolva useless. So trying a low dose combo of Clomid/Nolva/Asin.
I just started taking Asin at 6.25mg ed and raloxifene at 60mg for my gyno symptoms I'm getting..
My plan is to get bloods again around week 8 after my bloods peak at the test/AI dose.. then I'll plan the AI dose through my pct based on how the bloods come back. Does this make sense?
MedDx, what were your blood levels of E2 on cycle and at what dose of AI?
Yes, getting BW then will be okay, especially for your plan.
For me, with a standard one compound test c/e cycle, I can take exemestane 12.5mg ed and my E2 is on the high-end 30-40 range. Also, high-dosed, multi-compound cycles, even with a super clean and lean food plan, requires exemestane 25mg per day to keep my E2 around mid 30's. However, a standard 500mg TE/TC cycle with no AI will have my E2 in the 200's, with face acne that gushes blood and edema in the ankles.
Wow, well I guess we'll know how my body aromatizes and reacts to AIs when getting my bloods done and then plan accordingly.
Estrogen is tricky, but fun to work with if you have the time...lol...bloodwork is key to survival, though...
Also why is Clomid at that dose?
Depends on a few factors...
As impastable said below what are your e2 levels at currently on that dose of aro.
I know you stated you're running aro but for future reference most run aro into pct WHEN they've ran adex for their on cycle ai, due to estro rebound.
Everybody is different so all stated is just from my experience,, bloods don't lie brother so if you do run it into pct, get bloods and know for sure
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/which-ai-to-use-during...
Here's my take. Like said below you really need to know your bloods.
What does your 5 week blood work show? That'll help you get an understanding of where your e2 will be once you stop test injections and decide if you should continue it.
Solid cycle mate. What were the gains like??
I'm unsure but doesn't clomid and torem do the same job? Swap the clomid for nolvadex, maybe someone can confirm this.
I'm not a fan of aromasin in PCT as when I tried it, 3 times I crashed my oestrogen. It works for some people so unfortunately you have to try it and see.
The hard part even with out running it in PCT is the last week the test is leaving your system and how much to run then. Best of luck mate.