posted Sun, 02/19/2012 - 13:58
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ADVICE NEEDED FROM EXPERIENCED TREN USERS
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HEY GUYS LOOKING FOR SOME GOOD ADVICE FROM GUYS THAT HAVE ALOT OF EXP USING TREN E.
HAVE DONE MAN CYCLES PREVIOUS USING JUST TEST ETC.
FOR MY NEXT CYCLE I AM LOOKING TO WANNA CHANGE IT UP A LITTLE, THINKING OF USING TREN E WITH SOME SORT OF TEST JUST NOT SURE WHAT YET.
ANY SUGGESTIONS GUYS?? WHAT TEST BASE AND TREN WOULD WORK GREAT TOGETHER FOR EXTREME LEAN HARD MUSCLE/MASS, I AM ALL EARS TO YOUR INPUT.
ALSO IN REGARDS TO THE TREN SINCE I WOULD BE A FIRST TIME USER WITH THIS WHAT WOULD BE A IDEAL DOSAGE TO START WITH FOR GREAT RESULTS, TRYING TO AVOID THE BAD SIDES THAT ACCOMPANY TREN!!! THANKS GUYS FOR YOUR HELP
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How old are you? How many cycles have you run? Its hell on bp so if you have high bp I would advise against using it and take the advise from roid noid.
My experiences with Tren A were not great.Well, let me rephrase, it had its pro's and cons. I started with 75mg eod. Within a few days I couldn't sleep or when I did it was a very light sleep. I got my ass kicked badly in the ring because i couldnt breathe. I had no wind for any kind of cardio. After about 2 weeks I started to break out badly on my back. I'm already suseptable to bacne so it could have been my genetics. I thought maybe i wasn't keeping my blood levels steady enough so i started pinning ed. The sides didn't get worse or better. On the upside, It seemed to harden my existing muscle. I gained a few pounds but nothing crazy. I ran test P with it. The best part was my strength increase. I didn't have any issues with erectile disfunction like some ppl claim but thats just me.I was definitely the biggest prick on the planet while on it. Very irritable and nasty. This was great when sparring with a kid in the ring who was getting ready for a fight but not when i was acting like a douche at home or work. I did this against the advice of the person guiding me. I was told i should save it for another time. I shut down hard and felt like absolute shit for months after. I was ignorant. I didn't run the proper pct, just nolva and that did balls since tren doesnt aromitise. I didn't even know what letro or caber were. I ended up lagging in the gym, no motivation. I felt weak and frail. I loved the lean, hard muscle and strength, but not a fan of insomnia, bitch slappin' ppl over parking spots or long recovery. If I didn't think I knew everything I probably would have run Anavar instead. I was 25 when i first ran it. It was my second cycle. I dont know your goals or stats so i wont make a recomendation. Just my experience.
Thats pretty much the life of tren in a nuttshell! I would agree I suffered from the same sides. First time using tren I ran double digit doses and the sides where fucking ridiculas. The funny thing is after learning that I didnt like the sides, I dropped my dose down to 35mg/d with no sides, however 50mg/d was a mini version of the double digit dose. So although im not advocating tren to this user there is a sweet spot and tren can be used like any other steroids with minimal to no sides!
Once I smartened up and learned, I did have a better experience. I learned how to train cardio without feeling like i needed an O2 mask. I learned what compounds combatted the progesterone effects. I learned how to make it from simple vet supplies. I figured out how to get sleep. That was a few years later,....and wiser! I don't want to sound like im condoning it, but i'm not demonizing it either. Bottom line, it's a powerful compound that commands respect! Take your time, study, try a few other things first, give it time. Thats the best advice I can give
Two things really stand out in my memory, one good and one bad. I NEVER GOT ANY SLEEP! That not only effected me in my everyday life, but im sure it effected my results negatively. It was my 2nd cycle. I was a light heavyweight fighter walking around at 180lbs. 75-100mg ed was a very, very bad move. The one good thing that stood out was how freakishly strong it made me! At the end of the day, the trade off wasn't worth it.
If you havent tried other compounds like EQ, mast, primo, winstrol, anavar, maybe even deca, I wouldnt advise tren A or E. You can make great gains on compounds that aint so harsh, tren comes with alot of unwanted sides, takes using steroids to a whole different level, people break out in handcuffs and divorce court over the abuse of tren!
I second the Handcuffs! Almost got divorced but then I came off cycle and managed to kiss enough ass to save my marriage. Fuck bro did somebody tell u about me? :-)
Right on the money bro.
AnonIf you are set on this course of action I would recommend you start with Tren A, short ester you can adjust dosages based on side effects..
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THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT GUYS AND GIRLS:) BUT THE REASON I WAS LEANING WITH THE TREN E WAS BC I REALLLLY DONT WANNA HAVE TO SHOT EVERY OTHER DAY LOL.
WANTED TO RUN WITH THE E BC OF THE LONGER ESTER.
If your not ready to pin eod then it's safe to say your not ready for tren bro. You should look into another compound instead of tren. What are your stats and cycle history?
X2 tren a is the way to go for a first time tren user. Best bet to avoid sides would be to start with 50mg eod and go from there.