+ 1 Tren and Cardio
Got a question about Tren use and cardio.
Currently:
I am 36 and have been on trt for 12 months. I take 150mg a week of Test Prop with arimidex. Overall things are good. I have little to no sides. I was a little out of balance when taking 200mg of test which is what I was prescribed and I tried a "cycle" once and after two weeks started to get bad acne. I backed off and things got better after awhile.
Considering:
I ordered Tren a month or so ago and I was considering adding 100mg a week for 12 weeks. I am wanting to cut SUPER STUBBORN belly fat off my mid section. I just wanted tren to get me lean and I can maintain it once I get the fat off. I diet fairly well meaning I eat a home packed lunch with a turkey sandwich and healthy homemade dinners but my genetics want to hold a layer of fat on my love handles and belly. Most people would say I'm lean but I want that 7% look and then I believe my diet and training would keep the fat off. I also loved the honeymoon stage of Test and wouldn't mind seeing gains back in the gym and the sex drive.
Concern:
My main concern is that I started jiu-jitsu training and it absolutely kicks my ass and I don't want to have a heart attack. I've been through boarding school, military school, and the military and the physical workout from jiu-jitsu puts them all to shame. I might even get the belly fat off just training at this gym regularly. I've heard tren kills cardio and was curios if anyone could shed light on what to expect from a lower dose and doing extremely intense cardio.
Lastly:
If I do tren for strength and cutting what can I expect after Cycle with good diet and keeping my Trt going. Also, if I do Tren is there a PCT that I will need to do after I stop it or will the trt and arimidex work. While I'm asking a million questions my last one is after the tren would it be possible to cycle of everything and go back to natural? I have HCG, clomid, and tamoximed for Test PCT but haven't come off TRT cuz I don't mind pinning but I feel about the same as I did prior to Test and don't really have any benefits from it after the honeymoon stage. Sorry for the crazy post I appreciate all the advice.
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Sorry everyone I'm an idiot. I take Test C for my TRT not prop.
Switch to test e for trt. Its more stable than test p for once a week injections. I recommend doing twice a week.
Anyways, now down to the actual subject. You do not have a lot of muscle mass, based on your stats. You want to hop on tren to lose fat? Focus on eating better instead of drug use
Is it really 150 mg a week of test prop? The half life is about 8 days total until everything is out of your system... Usually with prop it is ED, EOD depending... Is pharma Test prop something different your doctor said once per week will be stable? What did you notice from 150mg per week to 200 mg? If you are getting sides from 200mg test per week it sounds like your system is sensitive and then any additional compound added is probably tempting but doing bloodwork is always a help, Good luck and stay in tune with any changes mind and body.
RustyhookerProp is dead by 48 hours.....falls off a cliff which is why ed or eod pins
The only change from 150-200 was i was able to get my acne down to where its barely noticed. I had been good at 200 until i got greedy and tried a blast at 400 whivh gave me fairly severe acne within 10 days of increasimg my dose and wouldnt go away even after i dropped back to 200.
Trenbolone at 100mg a week will do nothing for you, I can't imagine it will barely reach any kind of peak over 7 days. With Tren you are either committed to running it and all the physical and mental sides it brings or you don't. If you were thinking of Enanthate which it looks like you are then it needs to be at least 300mg a week to get a good return on what it will do to your insides in the meantime, however at this dose it will destroy your Jui Jitsu and leave you winded and exhausted pretty much all of the time. I am very good pals who competes in this sport at American Elite level and he would not even consider running it, most of them in the off season stick with Test & Deca and sometimes an oral like Anavar or Dbol.
AnonI'm an athlete, I don't discuss for privacy reasons. I train mostly for what I do as an athlete. I've ran Tren more than a few times and guarantee you it will have your ass winded faster. Not co-signing anything, just stating a fact.
Vanity or performance? Pick one. If you're serious about jiu-jitsu then avoid Tren.
Great insight. As much as i wanna look like a tank i dont wanna move like one.
man.. tren just for cutting fat? tren is used for stepping on stage. i mean dont get me wrong, allot of people use tren for beach season. personally i would stay away from it especially if you havent tried any other compounds. maybe try adding masteron instead of tren. i know tren made me crazy horny. like it was almost annoying how often i wanted to have sex.
I was adding in proviron which my friend said is like an oral mast. My main concern is anything that can flare my acne. I never had issues with acne but if i try to blast with Test i get really bad acne even takimg arimidex .5 everyday.
TricepatopsWhy would you do prop for TRT? I take it it isn't doc prescribed and it was your idea. Acne is a side effect for some while doing a cycle. If you are prone to it you are prone to it. After being on it for awhile your body gets use to it so you won't feel like you did when you first got on it. This is your body adapts to stuff we put in our system. Also you don't need steroids to cut fat.
TRT doc prescribed so not an official endo doc but it was prescribed after levels showed high estro and bottom of the barrel free test. Are you saying i should go Test E? I thought they are the same just a different ester.
Rustyhooker5ft 9 at 160lbs?
Youre foods need work. Look at makwas food diet forums. Sounds like youre fresh outta camp and starving eith no muscle base to burn off that fat and starving forces body to hold any excess.
Second.
One, you’re tiny. Then if tren doesn’t do it, your genetics don’t allow it. I can eat pie for every meal on tren and be sub 10
RustyhookerHis priors show he wont eat. Self scribed. Yolo.
Im 34 and trust me Back to natural is really hard,im off the last months ,im off for the last few months try to back natural test nevels right now and maybe i be no longer to produce test naturally no more, if u go do cycle,try 100mg ace with 100mg test prop M,W,F, for 10 weeks add arimix 1mg and aromasin,maybe caber on hand for prolactine
to be needed
,if u already on TRT not need PCT just cruise-blast,
RustyhookerWith his stats....thats your final answer? @MEXVOL
I never check profiles, i start do that checking profiles, for 5,9" 160lb a course need improvement on nutrition,but this post is on nutrition forum? My bad ,i just see the dosage on gear
I would say it is impossible to go back to natural since you have been put on TRT, i.e. I no longer produce test naturally and must supplement with exogenous testosterone.
Overall I think it a dumb idea to add in 100mg/wk of tren.
Better add Masteron. Tren is evil.