-1 Test, Deca, Mast, Halo, Anavar
Tell me what y'all think....
Test E: 600mg a week
Deca: 600mg a week
Mast E: 400mg a week
Halo: 10mg a day
Anavar: 75mg a day
Honest opinions and any recommendations
All ran at the same time for 12-16 weeks depending on tolerance and blood work. I have ran all of these compounds before and they all sit well with me at this dosage but I never ran all three together. Orals I have ran them before with previous cycles and they work will for me too. My liver seems to have great tolerance so it can take a good beating with the orals.
My diet is also very clean (fruit, veggies, whole foods, etc) I'm not a fast food guy that likes to eat any junk.
Reason for cycle is to gain size and strength
Supporting supplementals daily
Fish oil 4grams
CoQ-10 800mg
Vitamin D3 10,000iu
B12 complex ---
B6 1000mg (helps prolactin)
Milk thistle 4000mg
Magnesium ----
Multivitamin ---
L-glutathione 200mg daily (organ support)
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I’m running kind of the same cycle (minus the orals for that length!) I did however used dBol on training days at the beginning of the cycle more as a “pre workout/jump start” more than anything
I was at
500 test
400 deca
300 mast
50 dBol on training days
Just now bumping it up some
750 test
600 deca
400 mast
Droped the dBol
Orals is a tricky game. You have to know what they do to you. Anavor does very little to my health so far as heart and liver. Halo does the liver but my levels don't go very high. I also do 4grams of milk thistle a day so it help. When you know what they do to you then you can play with the dosage and length of the cycles.
So far I've been enjoying it tremendously. I feel like a walking tank most days. Currently sitting about 210 at 11% bf.
Dbol is one oral I do not like. The bloat was absolutely insane.
26 years old and you have already done 3 months cycles of harsh orals in the past and your talking about running anavar and halo for 16 weeks. This is a perfect example of what the new generation of body building has turned into. It's kinda sad that these kids are abusing this stuff to this extent. I'm not much older myself but this is just getting out of control with these young kids. And please dude, do yourself a favor and don't poison yourself taking so much vitamin B6 to lower prolactin, man up and buy some cabergoline. Taking a bunch of vitamin b6 just screams that you are SARM GOBLiN that's moved on into the big leagues.
I know you probably feel fine and liver values aren't too out of whack, but 12 weeks of orals is just unnecessary. Orals have extremely diminishing returns after the 8 week mark, so i'd stick with 8 weeks of var. Halo on top is a bit overkill and won't see much from 10mg anyways (not my recommendation to go higher). If size and strength is what you are looking for than dump the masteron. It doesn't have much of a place for size and strength, especially since for many it dries out the joints.
I'd say scratch the masteron and halo, and only run the var for 8 weeks tops and you have a decent cycle.
I hate bulking and cutting in same cycle. I somewhat feel it’s counter productive.
Then Test E: 600mg a week Deca: 600mg a week lIs fine. I’d even say the Deca is a little on the high side and would consider 400 mgs.
If you’re worried about bloat then consider running masteron but it’s just overkill in my opinion.
Are you getting ready for a show or is this casual usage? Aside from the orals at those dosages for that long it’s not horrible. Not what I’d run personally, I’d back the deca down to 400mg. After the 400mg dosage you’re getting into the territory of more sides than benefits. Oral dosage isn’t unreasonable, but running both at the same time for that duration is something I wouldn’t do either. Good luck with it bro, keep us posted on your results.
Anavar and halo for 12-16 weeks? My liver hurts just saying it lol
I think it's absolute wild too but I've ran 3 months of some harsh orals before and my liver was actually doing really well.
But honestly never tried halo yet. How is it and hows it make you feel
Increased vascularity, more muscle density, slight aggression (I don't get the rage that most get) but I do get hyper focused and energy increase. And the strength increase. Blood pressure is my biggest con. It gets pretty high but I take prescription propanol and it helps control my BP and heart rate.
TBH
I don’t know what your muscles maturity is, but long term, think about 10 years from now.. The orals won’t really do shit for you for building real tissue, it’ll only be temporary cosmetic and mental.
Been training for 10years, seriously training for competitive reasons for 3 years out of the 10
26 years old with BP issues already and you’re proposing this? Come on fella, slow it down a bit before you make a mess of your health.
My blood pressure is maintained at 120-136 over 80-96 .. I know how to control my BP really well. So I'm not worried about it. At least for now.
Well let’s put this another way.
Your question was “what y’all think?”
My answer and anyone with any knowledge would be “pretty ridiculous”.
I’d always try and steer someone away from something like this, it’s what a responsible community does, but ultimately it’s your body fella. Just don’t expect anyone here to say it’s a good plan. It really isn’t. Best of luck to you.
Didn't say anything against ya. I wanted feed back which is why it's here.
Didn’t say you did. Zero offence taken by me. Just trying to get you take a more reserved approach, you’re running risks you don’t need to and won’t necessarily build extra muscle. Take it from an old fart with a few extra miles on the clock ;)
Hey unknown 13 I'm kind of the same way when it comes to pointing out unnecessary risks. I personally have my reasons for pointing them out man. But glad you seek good advice and this comment to you was good advice.
Haha. Old farts can be wise
But his liver has a great tolerance and can take a beating… I dunno, just a little too high and a little too long for me, hopefully he considers some adjustments to his plan.
I take blood test every 4 weeks when on cycle. I adjust as needed every time
Goals, diet, cycle history, and goals???
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Subtract the orals and you have a seemingly great cycle
Seems excessive, I understand the t/d/m but not the hall or anavar
More details, how many weeks of inj, how many weeks of orals, which weeks are you running the injectables and orals, any AIs or support supps, are you running var and halo together, or one in the beginning and one at the end, what are you goals, bulk, cut, strength, etc. Not much to go off here.
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Honest opinion? Don’t.