+ 1 Hgh nose bleed
So the hgh quality concern saga continues, I commented this issue on my last post but can’t get an answer and I’m getting anxious so I’m posting it again here. Anyways I’ve been concerned with the quality of the hgh I’m using since I’m not getting ANYA side effects so I keep going up and up. Two days ago I tried 8 ius and got a nose bleed a little while later (unsure of how long, didn’t really pay attention because I didn’t think they were related). I haven’t had a nose bleed in like 5-10 years. Then today I try 10 ius, 3 when I first woke up, another 3ius in the afternoon and then I did 4ius tonight and about 5 minutes later, still standing in my bathroom, my nos starts bleeding. I haven’t found anything online saying this is common side effect for hgh, but I took kinda a lot. Now I feel kinda weird but it could just be anxiety cus I’m worried about what’s going on. So does anyone know what this could be or had this happen to them? Or does anyone know of a substance that could’ve been sold as hgh that would cause this, like frag or some peptide or something?
Also I had mentioned on my other post about my liver, it was in the comments so I’m not sure if people say it. I’m almost 99.9% positive my liver isn’t doing great, probably nothing crazy but I took some orals for a while and probably have elevated enzymes or some shit. And I’ve read how the liver is responsible for some role in the hgh-igf-1 process and so I’m curious if that’s why I’m not noticing a lot of effects
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Maybe it's specific to me BUT I've never felt any side effects when using Growth Hormone. That's why I find it strange that you wait for side effects to know that the hormone is original. I always use growth hormone bought in a pharmacy and I have absolutely no doubt that it is original. I went for 2 months 12iu ED. You say you haven't had a nosebleed in 5-10 years, but you still had a nosebleed, which has never happened to me in my life, which could very easily mean that the reason for your nosebleed that was 5-10 years old has returned and it's happening right now when you're testing the hormone . Unfortunately, nosebleeds can also be associated with cirrhosis of the liver. And that's where we get into an anxious state, so I completely understand you. What I would do if the nosebleeds are recurring is stop the GH altogether. If the bleeding continues again, visit the doctor to take a "deeper" look at the liver because ALT and AST is not a very sensitive test because in many liver diseases ALT and AST are normal.
So I still haven’t had another nose bleed, it was just those two times. So idk what caused those. Maybe all this is just liver issues, which had improved greatly. I had stomach issues for months that were really bad and some one had mentioned it could be my liver, I stopped orals and started taking some liver supplements and my stomach is back to normal and I’m thrilled, it was bad for months. I’m hoping it just continues to get better but also doing bloodwork after my trip so I will get to the bottom of it, I also may stop the gh all togethor till after I get back but then I can’t really get my igf levels tested so idk
It's certainly a smart decision. If the nosebleeds have stopped, then you have nothing to worry about. It is problematic when the condition remains the same or worsens. Glutathione will certainly help the liver and is generally good for many systems in the body. What I would recommend for long-term liver maintenance when you run out of injectable Glutathione is NAC (N-Acetyl Cysteine) and/or a supplement like NOW Foods Liver Refresh and TUDCA.
As for theory that GH doesn't work because your liver might be bad, I think that's only true when it comes to natural production/conversion because both igf and hgh are successfully used in patients who have cirrhosis of the liver.
Damn I was hoping after a little while with the glutathione, the gh would “kick in”.
And I guess your right, I’m probably fine to continue since the nose bleeds where just twice and stopped, I’ll probably continue on 6ius till I get home and then get the igf levels tested and see what’s up. Maybe I’m just lucky and am not having any side effects
It is possible that your gh is extra clean. The easiest thing for you to notice when it comes to gh is usually fat loss. At higher doses like yours of 6IU, I can literally eat a kilo of butter for every meal and still lose fat.
Ya that would be the best outcome. And yes I usually see some fat loss pretty quickly but haven’t really noticed any yet, it usually makes it so I can eat like I’m bulking and look like I’m cutting lol. Basically I’ll look like my diet is cleaner than it is. I’ll be pissed if this stuff is no good, I bought like a fucking year supply of this shit
"usually makes it so I can eat like I’m bulking and look like I’m cutting"
That is the best description of exactly what should be happening on the growth hormone and it is the easiest way to find out if it is original.
Lol it’s hard for me to tell what’s going on right now, I just had so many issues going on and everything’s going back to normal like the same time I started the growth. Like my stomach was always super bloated and now it’s flattening out so I really can’t tell if I’m getting leaner. Def not getting crazy lean tho. Also I couldn’t eat very much before and now I can do since I started the gh I gained like 10 pounds but my diet really changed at that same time. So all this is making it hard to tell what’s doing what
If you could get yourself an igf levels and liver function test in the next couple days id stick it out that long personally. I've been getting sporadic nose bleeds over the last few months. But I'm sure it's more due to how dry my nose is rather than the gh in running. I never used to get them until a couple years back and I've def gotten more over the last 6 months in which I've gone through 3 different brands of gh. It isn't usually just out of nowhere. If I blow my nose I'll notice some red in it sometimes and then next thing you know that nostril is bleeding. Using some nasal saline spray helps a lot with it.
Have you been keeping tabs of your blood pressure both before you started the gh and now while you're on it? I haven't noticed mine really change on GH but I've seen plenty of people who claim you do. That could absolutely contribute to more nose bleeds.
I read your last post about quality concerns. At the level you've gotten to id be concerned about no side effects too. Have you noticed any of the positive effects? Faster recovery and more restful sleep? I started noticing those in about a week on 2 iu. Took maybe a month before I started noticing how much faster my hair and nails were growing. Any of that happening?
If you can't get any blood work quickly I'd write it off as a bad purchase and order some from elsewhere. I've posted blood work from 2 different vendors. If you look through my pictures id recommend trying out the most recent brand I tried. Especially if they still have a sale going on. Pretty sure we aren't supposed to name vendors publicly. But I'm curious what brand you're using currently so I'm going to FR you so you will hopefully share that info in private.
Ya so I hadn’t been monitoring my blood pressure, I have low blood pressure naturally and nothing seems to raise it, at least not that I “feel”. But I’m not sure if it’s increased recently. Also I haven’t noticed better sleep, but I’ve never had that with any GH, also I might have better recovery, for example, I usually train in this small private gym in my apartment complex, not a lot of equipment. This week I’ve been going to a full commercial gym and been going hard, being able to use different machines and hit different muscles and stuff has been great and I thought for sure I’d be sore from all the new exercises I’ve been doing and how hard I’ve been going but I haven’t been sore at all. So idk. I know you liver being messed up can lower igf levels on bloodwork but idk if that would also lower it’s actual effectiveness? But that’s kinda what I’m chalking it up too. I stopped the orals once I figured out it’s my liver that’s been causing my troubles, and I already feel better, also later today I’ll be starting glutathione injections for my liver, so I’m hoping as my liver improves, maybe I’ll start noticing some effect with the gh??
Id stop
Ya I’m just gunna do 6ius till I can get bloodwork done after visiting family
you need your bloods - guinea piggin without data aint it mayne.
the nosebleeds could be unrelated - also you've got heart issues? What are you doing?
"Trying to get as big as humanly possible and stay healthy at the same time."
You need to fix your bio if you're not going to show up for yourself in pursuit of your goals.
So annoying when people act like they know my health situation cause they read one or two sentences, but I appreciate you’re concern, honestly. But if you must know. I got an infection in my blood stream that landed in my heart years ago. Healed 1000% and wasn’t on gear or anything. I have clear arteries and heart functioning perfectly, it wasn’t a heart condition, or cardiac arrest or anything like that. I was perfectly healthy before and perfectly healthy after, just kinda like a freak thing from an infection on my leg. I see a cardiologist every 90 days for ekg and blood work every 6 months with imaging. so I’d be willing to bet I’m 100% on top of my health more than the average gear user, and probably more than most guys on here, actually I can almost guarantee that’s more than almost anyone is doing.
My goal was to run 8ius if I could without too much side effects and so far I’ve only gone above that one day, I just assumed it would’ve taken me months to get to this dose. Going over by two ius one time is hardly Guinea pigging, but I know what your saying, the only reason I haven’t gotten labs done already is because it’s only been three weeks which is like the bare minimum you should be on before testing and now I’m leaving to visit family so I’ll just have to wait another week or so. But I will be dialing it back after the nose bleed.
Oh God, please tell me it's not Kits gh. Lol. You've been to the doctor more in the last year than I've been in over 10 years. I don't recommend it, but I'm definitely a guinea pigger.
Ya we’ll when I had that infection, It was very scary and honestly it was traumatic and it really shook me up. Up until then I thought I was invincible. So I def take health issues more seriously now, and any time you have something happen to your heart they automatically refer you to see cardiologists and all that. So I figured if I’m gunna be playing with gear and stuff I’ll just take advantage of all the testing and stuff. And ya it’s not kits lol. I should add a disclaimer up top lol so people don’t start worrying about that
Thanks for adding some context - when I saw this, i got a bit anxious. Click through a few other posts and it paints a picture of "woah, whats goin on here".
If you're good you're good - I only have a limited set of info to go off of. If it were me and i'm getting sudden symptoms not aligned to what I'm expecting - my knee jerk reaction is dial back whatever it is that im doing. Pause button. Think. And you're doin that you're asking questions.
re-reading my msg, jumped the gun a bit - my bad. Estro might be creeping up
It’s all good bro, you only have so much to go off of, and in 99% of times when you hear “heart trouble” is some sort of condition or clog, or some sort of thing that is signs of you heart function below normal. Mine was probably one of the very few cases where it was a heart issue, technically, but my heart is fine today. Didn’t mean to come across as rude either, I’ve just been given a hard time before by guys seeing that post and thinking I have like coronary heart disease or sum shit and then running gear like a mad man lol. But I’m not gunna run that much hgh now, I’ll probably go back down to 6 for now and get tested around the 7th unless I can go first thing tomorrow morning but I doubt it
I can only assume its from the BP increase that HGH causes, it definitely makes mine go up. Is this from the source thats being discussed a lot atm bud?
No, it’s from the one that I was stressing over the shipping lol. Buy ya blood pressure was one of the only things I could think of but most info I read people talked about there blood pressure going up only a little. And I’ve talking good amounts of dbol and anadrol, with some EQ and my blood pressure was probably higher than it is now and never got any nosebleeds. Idk maybe this stuff jacks mine up more than normal I guess. I’m still questioning the quality or even if it’s real. Every brand I’ve ever used has given me almost crippling carpel tunnel at 3-4 ius like BAD and with This stuff I can just slam whole vials a day with zero effect? Definitely gunna have to do bloodwork soon. I’m pissed I didn’t think of this earlier but on Saturday I’m traveling to visit my mom for a week so I only have tomorrow I can get it done or I have to wait like ten more days. And I’m like 90% sure I won’t be able to go tomorrow. Idk either I’m just wasting a bunch of money or I’m gunna grow into a monster because I’m doing a vial a day lol
Good. Just saw this. Lol
anvilGH can increase water retention, which leads to higher BP. Maybe back off the dose so you can live to tell us the story when you get back buddy lol.
Ya I was increasing until I saw some sign, looks like I found my sign! Lmao. No matter what I was gunna decrease for the trip since I won’t really be training and eating like normal anyways but now I am for sure, thanks bud!
You need some BP meds on hand bud
Ya I normally have lower blood pressure and nothings ever really raised it for me, so I never really worried about it. I have cialis but that doesn’t really count I guess. But as I get older I probably should start to keep some on hand.