posted Sat, 01/13/2024 - 10:39
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Eq vs deca
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Hey guys so something I've been looking into lately is adding either eq or deca to my next cycle. What's your guys experience with the 2. What side effects and results did you get at what doses and everything.
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Well after alot of thought and consideration and reading up on @mawka teachings(your amazing dude) I've decided to not run primo and this won't be my last cycle but I will be stopping after this one for a bit. I'm only 26 and I don't need to run this my whole life I can wait till I'm like 40 to come back, I'm not competing, I plan on getting married very soon and hopefully having a kid so there's that too. I'll be posting in the cycle logs by tomorrow the exact plan I have. You guys are awesome and I appreciate all the knowledge I have gained here. You guys rockk
Yeah man. Your making a good decision by doing this. Idk what your goals are but it sounds like you are trying to put on size and with you being 26 you can still put on A LOT of size without the gear. After whatever cycle your about to run that is. You just eat, lift and sleep just like you would if you'd be running the gear, just without the gear. IT WORKS!!! IT REALLY DOES!!
Yea I think at 26 and wanting to start a family this is the right decision. If a man is trying to start a family then Deca is definitely going to lower your chances. I saw that you were more concerned with primo but also kind of on the fence. Lol primo dosages have been debated and will continue to be debated. There's no right or wrong answer simply because some benefit from primo at certain dosages while other don't benefit at certain dosages. At the end of the day you have to find out what works for your body and when you do that, you can make small adjustments from there. Good luck and be safe.
I'm just not ready for primo tbh I know I can get to that point easy just not the right thing right now. It'll be a good cycle for sure though. Working on dinner then im going to put it in the logs
Deca all day. First compound to put tons of size on my physique. Eq is just not as strong as deca. But it's a good option for guys having issue with side effects. I still like eq for appetite, pump, clean gains. Stack it with test and primo and you will get a super full look if you dont mind the extra water retention.
I ran deca and man my body holds on to water like it's going to vanish from the earth lol
For me I had the most sides on deca, gyno and limp dick even with test base, even weird sexual thoughts.
I wanted to run for 12 weeks but discontinued due to gyno flare up and had to sort that out with some Nolvadex.
With EQ the only side I have is a little bit of a temper or quicker to think why the fuck is this bitch taking so long to pay. But im quick to check myself before saying or doing something stupid.. I keep my test within the same range as the EQ, I don't need an AI.
I titrated up as the cycle progressed to
900EQ 750 test E for a 12 week cycle
207lbs to 228lb
Both used for bulking
Me too. Worst sides/cycle I ever did was when I was a rookie and ran test e/ NPP/ Dbol. I grew some titties, went crazy, bad acne, oil was pouring out of my skin. I think deca shouldn’t be recommended to beginners as often as it is. I see it recommended as guys second cycle all the time. And the dude hardly knows how to control estro, and hadn’t even heard of prolactin never mind learned how to control it.
I've heard deca can turn guys into cuckolds, any truth to this? Alot of guys reporting sexually deviant behavior on deca.
YES. 100% yes. Idk about cucks. But it’s super weird nandrolones effect that part of your brain. It’s like night and day, I found myself watching some weird shit on that-- and I don’t mean a little weird, I mean shit that I would NEVER watch or think about, shit that I normally might even find gross. It’s fuckkng weird dude. If you stayed on it long enough I could see how certain dudes could get in some trouble lol
Fuuuck that sounds like God sent you down to hell to live for a while.
Lol...damn!
Ya man I took like 4 years off of gear after that and didn’t start again till I really knew what I was doing and haven’t ran npp or deca since lol. I did a small dose for like 4 weeks just to see how I reacted and it went fine so I might use it again in the future but I almost got like ptsd or some shit from it lmao
KonstantViktoryI'd like to add to the Tren topic
"Real Tren" is basically steroids ON steroids... And pretty much everything that the movies/books/tv stereotypes about steroids. Highest chance of those portrayed side effects - acne, anger, mutation like strength and muscle, etc...
The cleaned up and more legal variation of that would be pharmacy quality testosterone and primobolan...
I would have to play around with EQ on a bulk to be honest to really be able to compare, but as others have stated, I noticed more vascularity and a clean but full/round look to especially shoulders and legs had veins popping up in places I rarely ever see. I ran it on a cut though, so would like to throw it into a growth phase to see how it compares. I didn't get the hunger that most people claim on it or the high BP, but I do believe that the fact I was cutting had more of an effect on these two issues than the compound itself. I love NPP and have had nothing but great cycles anytime I have implemented it. I'm not so sure NPP/Deca are as explosive as people make it out to be compared to something like EQ. I think it is either more preference/opinion based on each individuals genetics and predisposition. Also, the fact the NPP/Deca will produce more scale weight due to overall weight (water retention, fat + muscle accrual). Time will tell. If I can remember to, I will try to update results after trying it on my growth phase.
EQ destroyed my BP, it took a while to normalize, but the results for me personally were great. Deca was great, but puffed up my face to the point that my mother even said something. And towards the end I got a little emotional. I’d suggest NPP and masteron, I’ve never ran primo, but if your budget allows I’d definitely give it a go. It’s highly recommended.
Forget about both and run Primo
absolutely
& get a remortgage LMAO
These guys still believe the wet dream of run 400 primo and see something LOL.
I’m surprised. You wouldn’t see anything with that type of dose given your physique ? I really enjoy running that dose for about 18-20 weeks with a trt dose of test and actually kick start with 50mg for 6 weeks. Solid 10lbs while dropping BF.
Now when I used a low dose of test with primo my estrogen was in the trash big time, but like I always say, we all are different. I probably could get better results going 18- 20 weeks like you but my cycle was shorter.
Yeah. I should’ve specified and stated at least 250 mgs. If I run a trt dose my primo dose would be lowered around 300 mgs. If guys run 800 mgs, they should consider the risks of crashes estro if test isn’t high enough.
Had no idea primo would wipe my estro out but I made the adjustments so you're right. Worst feeling in the world.
Exactly, especially if you're running primo at 700mg/week like this guy is considering lol. But hey that's on him.
Lol I cannot figure out these guys that constantly say 400mg primo is worthless, that's silly. It wasn't for guys back in the day. Maybe some don't get results that low but some do. Now is a bit more of primo better..yes. I'll keep spreading my one shoe size fitting message. A one shoe size doesn't fit everyone basically. In my upcoming cycle I'll probably use primo again and at 400mg too.
@wanted 400 did me well. Made gains my brother. We all different. No one shoe size approach partner...Lol my wet dream was real!
Mine too I suppose
Probably what I'm going to do, that and var, just gotta wait for opening ;)
if you can afford it, there is nothing better imo
@UncleYoked how many mg is your primo
400 is what I was thinking
That's the route I'm planning, I honestly only want to do another cycle or two, if i could do primo var and test I'd be happy.
If your run primo high, make sure you run test high enough.
Only 2 more cycles, then I wouldn't waste one on only 400mg of primo. If you want to know what separates primo from the rest, then run it high enough to see its signature results.
I'm thinking 50mg anavar per day 300 test and 600 primo per week. Maybey 700.
Primo has ai properties especially at 700mg so bloods is best, not advice. Possible estro crash. Like I said there isn't a one shoe size approach and I'll keep saying that. Good luck
Good starting point. Var at the end. Pick the highest primo dose you want to run and stick with that from the get-go. Primo takes a long while to kick in and increasing dose later in the cycle doesn't really do much since there is a pretty good lag time and before you know it the cycle is over.
Adjust test so you don't need an Ai. Primo can be a good AI for alot of people so adjust test accordingly.
https://www.eroids.com/forums/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/my-2-cents-o...
Depending on the person you don't have to run primo high at 800mg. That's just a misconception. Now more will give better results but to say 400mg is worthless is not always true. That definitely wasn't the case for bodybuilders running primo in the 70's. It's not a one one shoe size approach at all man so never think that. Alot of folks have ran primo higher because it was underdosed and I've seen that several times. 400 did well for me. @wanted
If you only have two more cycles in you. Blow it the F UP AND RUN THE primo at 800 boom and bring back the results in pictures.
I agree, if your goal is to really shine, run it 600-800
400 is very mild, I'm an old guy, I'm not lifting like a maniac anymore, 400 is fine for me.
How much liquid can the glutes take
High ML sucks, try to split them around, can you take 5 in the glutes? Sure, should you? Probably not.
How old are ya over there Yoked? 48 here
@Drexyl 48 huh? I could be a bit older than you young mofos...OR...I could be a bit younger than you old mofos lolol
I'm chasing you like the the magic dragon that can never be caught
26 haha I'm a baby
You think that now, you’re going to blink your eyes twice and be 40. Remember I said that lol