posted Fri, 12/06/2024 - 20:04
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Blast and cruise or pct at age 37
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I've done many cycles over the past 10 years. I'm just your average gym bro at 6' 220 pounds. Working out since I've been 15 and have been in the gym ever since. I have always just blast and pct. I've never done anything other than test at 500mgs and anavar here and there.
I am now approaching age 37 and have had our kids. Would you recommend just blast and cruise year round with test? I have grown tired of the pct blues and losing sometimes everything on a rough recovery. I regularly get bloods done and checked.
The only downsides I can see is :
- pinning 2x a week basically forever
- taking long vacations on a flight and not having prescription
What would your I put be for a someone who's serious about the gym but not a competitor? TIA
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OP- I’m 36 and very similar to you I’ve long been passionate about the gym, strength training, fitness, etc. and I’ve been on a full time blast and cruise routine since my late 20’s. The main reason for me are as follows:
I’ve never wanted kids and knew it from an early age. I fucked around with a lot of women before my wife and viewed it as a way to lessen my chances of an unwanted Eagles 2013 Jr. running around (I’m happily married and snipped now).
I hated the PCT routine and since fertility wasn’t an issue, gear is so easy to come by and I don’t mind pinning it made the most sense for me.
Is not all that difficult to have your meds when you fly. If you’re traveling domestically call your hotel a few days in advance and let them know that FedEx/UPS will be delivering a package for you on the day of your arrival and to please hold it at the check in desk.
If traveling internationally, transition your TRT test to something longer acting like test D or UD about 6 wild out so the esters can stabilize and you can ride it out for a few weeks if needed.
This is how I choose to live my life, but at the end of the day it’s a personal decision. My advice would be not to put a plan in motion until a month after you’re certain it’s what you want to do. Make sure that you’re not subconsciously still on the fence.
MOST IMPORTANTLY- involve your wife in the decision making process. She needs to be just as involved and committed as you are or it will cause trouble down the road. My wife loves the idea. She and I discussed relationship real breakers on our first date 6 years ago and kids were a deal breaker for both of us.
I really appreciate your story. We seem very similar after looking through your reviews, you've been dabbling with gear from a lot of the same src's, some I have forgotten all about. I totally forgot about hulk labs from back in the day, ha!
The wife is all good since we've had our kid and the plan was always b&c when we finally do. Thanks for the tip about traveling as we do travel often. That was the one big concern I had. I did a lot of research and traveling with pre filled syringes, seems to never be a problem in your carry on. I haven't read or come across anyone who has been questioned.
Question for you since you've been in the game awhile like myself, where do you get bloods? Do you go through insurance or a private company?
I self pay for bloods at the Lab Corp where I live. Luckily my state is pretty lenient and doesn’t require a doctor’s referral or anything.
Eeesshhhh haven’t seen that name mentioned in a LONG time.
You got out lucky:
https://www.eroids.com/pics/do-not-use-hulkbody-gear-if-you-have-any-left
Nevertheless- make sure to read the rules over again just in regards to mentioning brands/SRCs in the appropriate places
I got some nasty shit from that old SRC not long before he went away. It fucked my right quad up real bad. Luckily I caught the infection very early and was able to get it drained once and cured with a heavy dose of antibiotics. Almost 15 years in the game, hundreds of injections and that was my only infection.
It's a good thing they got busted. Brewing gear in the hills of TN. Dude was apparently a pastor too --
Funniest was that it was a Pastor and his family
Wow. I think I know which src that is. That's always been my main fear besides getting a seizure letter
Yep fucking scumbags. Have never had to get anything drained or surgery thank the lord. I have started z-packs (Azithromycin) a couple times with bad injections or if I feel any warmth/redness and it’s always knocked it out within a few days.
Always keep antibiotics on hand!
Amoxicillin should also work I am just deathly allergic to cillins
Where do you get your zpacks from? Or just the doc?
Some SRCs here carry pharma, but you can get scripts pretty easily.
I personally get them from pharmacy. My momma is a Nurse Practitioner so I can get any small stuff like that written and sent electronically with a text thankfully. Also super nice always getting all my pins/any medical stuff I need sent for free.
Smart man always keeping them on hand! I do too after that experience. It was fucking brutal. I went to the ER 3 days after injection (it was a Sunday) because I literally couldn’t put any weight on my left leg. I was having to lean on my then gf/now wife’s shoulder like she was a crutch. I should’ve gone sooner but I pinned with a 1.5” 23g and I guess since it was so deep it took a little while for my skin to turn red and warm. The first 36 hours or so I was weighting it off as DOMS from leg day.
Fuck man that sounds terrible. Glad you didn’t have sepsis set in or anything too seriously damaging!!
I was probably within 24-36 hours of it. That shit was getting nasty quick. I knew it was bad as soon as I saw the look on the ER nurse’s face when she saw my quad.
Noooo shit. That's brutal man. I'm gonna send you a message about a src I see you've used and want your feedback if you don't mind. I'll shoot you a message after you accept my add.
Accepted
Sounds good buddy!
Gotcha. I figured it'd be alright since the doucher technically isn't a src anymore. That photo has been my biggest fear finding a new src. I used the same for 10 years and just switched this past month to domestic. Hopefully I'll be in good hands.
Oh yeah there’s just another doucher that goes by the same name on other forums.
If you need any recommendations feel free to dm! I’m sure by looking at my posts you’ll see which domestics I trust
For sure. I'll send you aessage just to hear your experience. Eases my mind the more I hear about someone..
No trt....jeeze.
Great elaboration..
Lmao...
Of course it is! You asked for opinion. Not why. If your natural test is on point why screw it up? Slave to a pin to come onto a board where pinning 6 items per day is normal? But common sense failed. A cycle is just that....A Cycle. Unless youre getting paid tgen why screw your endocrinological system? Youre not collecting plastic trophies. Its not buying a new vette.
Good boy, now you've elaborated. Who tf said I'm pinning 6 items a day? Eventually as a male in your 40-50s and if you care about making gains, you're going to go on trt at some point. So you enjoy cycling and coming of only to lose damn near everything feeling like a terd?
I was talking bout the new kids pinning this microdosing bs. Lol
And the green source in the ass pic is still a source somewhere. I came from a different website last year. Hes busy af butt would never use his trash.
Merry Christmas!
But it could get him some extra pussy
Hahaha! Sisterwives!
Naw. Married with kids here, little boy.
Easy tiger.
My advice, cruise. I was put on TRT around that age. First you don't have to pin 2x a week. You can but you don't have to. My Dr prescribed me 300 every 2 weeks. I can pin 1x every 2 weeks and feel fine, but if I'm trying to keep steady bloods I pin 100 every 5 days. If you are worried about a script, get one. I use insurance so it's a little harder that way but I meet the criteria, but TRT clinics make it super easy but don't accept insurance a lot of times. Ultimately the choice is yours . Pros and cons to both, but trt, in my opinion has more pros than cons.
Every time I fly my ped's are right with me
... And cruises
Needles and unprescribed gear?! Sounds risky.
Blast and cruise for sure. You can try once a week for trt .I feel the same that way but only do this for cruising
Pin once a week on cruise keeps your bloods stable enough?
They go from like 1500 to 800 but I feel no difference and don't have any change in my physique or performance
Highly depends on what ester. A lot of docs will only prescribe it as once a week, but you can use a basic half life chart to see that splitting that dose 2x will give much more consistent levels.
My urologist actually prescribed me to pin 1x every other week. Of course I choose to pin more often but 300 every other week, even though bloods probably are not stable, I feel fine. No low T symptoms. 200 every 2 weeks and about 3 days into the 2nd week i start feeling it.
That's actually what it was designed for if you read the insert in the box when you get it from the pharmacy. I never tried every other week. But I feel fine if take no shots at all for about 6 weeks if I stop cold turkey, so I don't see why it wouldn't work for me personally.
At 47 I started feeling it pretty quick, but everyone is different. The thing is it isn't like dope where you get ill and can't function. You just start feeling old real quick lol. All in all you are right, originally the longer esters(I'm on cyp) were developed for longer duration in-between shots. And we naturally do not maintain steady levels. They are highest in the morning and drop steadily throughout the day. So a shot of 300 shoots my levels beyond the upper limits and by the end my levels drop to about 300 to 400. 2 weeks later. I've had bloods as low as 76, so 400 is cool. I do prefer steady levels but the whole point is it's not necessary to be "normal" of course steady is important in a growing phase to optimize.
Again completely depends on the ester.
I work at a compounding pharmacy and have been on trt for 10 years.
What ester are you on that you feel fine going cold turkey for 6 weeks? If I may ask why did you decide to do that? Surgery or health markers then doctor recommendation?
I was using Enanthate. I prefer to do that at my own decision. Instead of going from a blast dose to a cruise dose I just come off to give myself a break for as long as I can until I feel off. Once I feel off I start a cruise dose.
Would love to see the bloods from during those times.
Hey I don’t disagree fully. Took me years to find an endo that’s actually educated and has no judgement with PEDs. Lots of Urologists and Endos don’t even have a single TRT patient and go off 30 year old medical textbooks. Lots of us with years of experience know how to interpret bloods and most importantly judge our own bodies.
Thanks for the response!
That's what I figured. I'll stay 2x a week as I always have.
Consider micro dosing test 20mg a day … less side effects :-)
Any reason why do you consider pinning 2x a week instead of once?
There are facts that graphs tend to support then there's bro science supported by the local gym guy named Jim Stevens. Now Jim has alot of followers. Jim is the founder of bro science. But seriously I'm thinking the micro dosing trt thing may be to avoid sides....I dunno man. It's rare that I see that though
Folks fogot that halflife means...half and its still going. Half life breaks down to 5halves but whos talking science here anyways. Script is every 2 weeks based on pin to several halves breaking down. The idea of 1pin a week avoided a real scientific trough. Stability.
@cryhavok has charts graphs proofs. Roidcalc etc too
Most people should know what half life means…
https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/general-talk/how-half-life-math-works
It is not linear though.
Not linear but shows why microdosing trt is goofy. Or also why sustanon is pinned often. Ed or eod. Then chase more science with forum.... test is not test and blow up the gains