posted Tue, 01/23/2024 - 14:42
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Are AAS effective when run with SARMS ?
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I’ve read that SARMS and AAS can be used in a cycle together, and be effective, but I’ve also read that
SARMS can't be used together with steroids because sarms knock steroids off the androgen receptor.
As SARMS are extremely selective.
What’s the consensus ? Say for example a Test / DECA / Osatrine and MK677 cycle ?
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Said it before, I’ll say it again. Stick to the AAS that have been around for a while my bro. Zero sarms are FDA approved, everything is still in the human trial phase. The results won’t be worth the unknown future risks. Many steroids have been around for around seventy five years. If you mess yourself up with testosterone or deca, even trenbolone, chances are a physician will be able to get you out of it. If you go to a doctor and tell him you’re having ED, irregular heartbeat, paranoia etc… and you tell him you’ve been injecting BZq3255468H, you’re going to get a sideways look and he may not know how to treat you properly. Best wishes bro, but personally I stick to what’s been around a while.
SARMS is just steroids with a different name. You can stack steroids, you can stack sarms, you can stack them together, its all the same thing really.
I dont see the reason to use ostarine in a bulk cycle tho. Its more for cutting imo. You could use other oral.
I've taken several sarms, or things people call sarms, in the past.
S4 i didn't get much out of. Rad 140 seemed to increase my strength pretty quickly along with some serious vascularity. MK has a couple uses depending on when you take it. During the day would turn me into a bottomless pit when eating. I could eat double what would usually fill me and still feel i had room for more. If i took it 30 minutes before bed i got amazing sleep. I was out not long after i closed me eyes and woke up 8+ hours later in the exact same position i fell asleep in. GW501516/Cardarine absolutely seemed to increase my cardio ability. It took significantly longer before i started to get that tired/burning feeling in my muscle.
That's been my experience with them. I could see using GW or MK for certain effects they have. But i noticed more size/strength off 500 test than i did any of the sarms i tried.
As a general rule of thumb running sarms with AAS is not worth it. There are a couple of exception. S4 is good on a cut for hardening up and Mk is useful for boosting appetite. Those are really the only ones that have merit to me. Ostarine, LGD and the other sarms that are used for so called muscle building are a waste.
Looking to take something to boost my appetite like MK..
I'm taking 4iu HGH , read you shouldn't be taking MK if taking HGH? Don't know if that's true or just Bro science . Advice be appreciated
I don’t see any conflict taking both
I’ve started MK and my face bloated quite rapidly. Would HGH have the same effect ?
No. The water buffalo effect is pretty common with mk.
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Ok thanks Makwa, definitely ditching MK and I’ll use GH instead
Spot on agree with this 100 %, just throwing a personal opinion in here , but once you have AAS then sarms are pretty much never going to fulfil you. I tried the ostarine a while back various brands etc and cardarine also but didn't get much of a feedback/gain from them. sarms probably seem more effective for those who don't use aas or not much of them.
This is just my personal experience so not tryna give a rule to anyone
Thanks, id love mk but for the water bloat. I thought S4 and Ostarine are very similar ?
S4 is andarine, different from ostarine.
Gotcha, why does it make more sense to use S4 instead of ostarine?
Ostarine is weak sauce. It doesn't do anything good. I'll take creatine any day over ostarine. S4 is a one trick pony. It is solely used as a hardener conditioning agent with uber low bodyfat (4-5%). The hardening effects are noticeable at this body fat. HIgher body fat and I wouldn't even bother with it though.
Yeh I never knew you had quite a lot of experience with sarms either Mak - Are you really just an undercover Brocolli head??!! LOL
So whats the reasoning as to why they are less effective than Steroids then - because the reading I have done on them promotes them as being more directly effective for the task in hand and also safer than running gear, a kind of updated, superior version of steroids if you will?
The ones doing all the promoting are places selling them. 10lb in 8wks running 20mg of ostarine
Most of them are junk. Been there and done that with most of them 10-15 yrs ago. Creatine will take you farther than any SARMS cycle and that is the honest truth.
You seem well informed on SARMS. What’s your opinion of Ligandrol
No point using Sarms except for a select few in specific instances when have AAS at our fingertips.
And peptides? MT2 and Cardarine etc
I never had any luck with cardarine. Peps can be good. LR3, MT2, PEG-MGF, HGH, MOTS-C, HCG all have their place in a bodybuilders arsenal.
You recommend any protocols for better scalp hair? I already use Ket.. shampoo - next cycle I think Deca with minimum Test possible and some Var. anything else ?
Talking to the wrong guy about that. I’m Mr clean
Dhb bro. Ask makwa about that combo. Its impressive
Definitely heard a lot of good things about DHB, but not in terms of hairloss, I have read of many people having issues. I know it’s not in the same category as Mast or Proviron, but I understand it’s a bit like Primo - 50/50 chance of hairloss ( I tried Primo, and my hair dropped out pretty quickly )
I've ran Test/Deca/Dbol and MK677 together and had great results. I had a little bit of feet swelling and ankle swelling after 2 months but other than that it was a good mass cycle.
That’s good to hear. I wonder if you would have had great results / same results without the MK677 ? I guess it’s very hard to tell with these things. Good that it didn’t cause sides and you got good benefits
MK677 seemed to help alot with appetite and sleep. Dbol kills my appetite and makes my sleep garbage.