+ 1 4 week 500 Test E bloods
Just had labs done and got the results. I looked through a couple other posts, but I was hoping for some specific input.
Started on 300 mg/week Test E and after week two, bumped up to 500 Test E/week...250 on Wed and Sat. This is now week four overall. (FYI: First cycle)
I have aromasin on hand and based off my Estradiol levels alone, it seems I should start taking it, but my medical background goes to the "treat the symptoms, not the numbers".
And I haven't had any crazy sides, with the exception of my libido fluctuating daily and seems to be much less at the end of the day, energy seems to be intermittent, but higher than pre-cycle, and its taking me a liiiiitle bit too long to finish when gettin' the deed done. Emotions are good, strength and physique improvements have been amazing.
What do you guys think? Should I even take the aromasin? 6.25ed or EOD for 2-3 weeks and get retested? I appreciate any input.
Here's a pic of my pre-cycle labs and now. Didn't get FSH, LH, or prolactin checked pre-cycle. Everything else (CMP, CBC, lipids) were good, actually improved quite a bit.
Waiting on free test results since its a send-out for my lab (4-5 days). Was 121 pg/mL pre-cycle.
Thanks in advance!
Update
Free test is at 751.8. Was at 121.0 pre-cycle
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Posted update with my free test levels that just resulted today.
Like Triceratops and Makwa said below. Your test levels should be higher than that.
I think it’s the test I got from a buddy that I was on the first two weeks being bunk honestly. So if that’s the case, this could be only week two. The new stuff I have I know is real and good from a reliable source.
Get another 4 weeks in and check again. Just to make sure.
Yep, that’s the plan. My doc is totally on board and I can text him anytime and he’ll order labs within the hour so I thankfully have that option.
You say you aren't having any side effects and then you go on a list a bunch.
Better get on that AI. It is only going to get higher.
Biggest red flag to me is 500mg of test and levels only in the 1500's. That's what I would expect from only 250mg/wk of test.
That was one thing I was thinking, I was expecting to be in the 2000’s but then again, it’s only been two weeks at 500. And to be honest, the test I got from my buddy for those first two weeks when I was at 300 could have been bunk. The stuff I have now is good for sure. I’m takin 6.25 of the aromasin and B6 for prolactin and gonna retest in a week and then three weeks. Luckily my doctor is completely cool with anything I ask him for.
I'm surprised with that prolactin being quite high while you're only on test.... I think vit E and B complex helps with that. I wouldn't personaly run Ai unless you feel like you need that, but there's veterans who have all my respect saying opposite. Needles to say, everyone is different, aromatizes differently and have more or less manageable sides.
I think my prolactin is up from the years of being on different SSRI’s. That’s the only thing I could think of. I’m taking B6 to try and manage that.
TricepatopsSo is that 500mgs a week on the test? If so that is a lower number then most expect on that much test. Some guys get that on 250mgs a week. Also estro is fine with higher test the body wants more estro to be in a balance. As long as you are not having any sides I wouldn't worry about it. Need some E2 for gains and for health.
Also looking at your history with medication alot of what you used in the past have shown to increase prolactin levels. SSRIs and meds like that can cause higher prolactin levels.
I remember you commenting on my other post before I started the cycle too and I genuinely appreciate that you go back and see other things. -------- That was one thing I was thinking about the prolactin. I wish I would’ve gotten it checked pre-cycle. Because I think all those meds I was on for years probably jacked it up. I’m hoping the b6 is gonna drop that down a decent amount. And with it being only 1500s for 500/week. I think the first two weeks at 300 were bunk test from a buddy of mine. If that were the case, this would technically only be week 2
I am actually so relieved to see someones first cycle that is researched and thought out and JUST TEST. Thank god there are still new guys out there that are doing things the right way. And you are exactly right about treating sides not numbers. Kudos for doing you research. Me personally, I like my estrogen a little elevated. Makes me feel better. As far as it taking too long for you to finish in the bedroom. that would be because of the higher E2. Once I start having those sides, I dose my AI at a very low dose and wait until they subside. So yes I would probably try dosing your Aromasin at a low dose to start. You DEFINITELY do not want to crash you estrogen. so probably start with 6.25 maybe EOD. Everyone is different when it comes to AI so see how you feel with that dosage. And Seriously, Kudos and congrats on your first cycle. The veterans of this forum will have lots of respect for that and help you out rather than blast you.
This is almost identical to my mine. But I’m week on 8 now. Haven’t had had to take an AI yet but who know what next week brings. But yes glad to see someone else doing something similar and safe. ( I’ve been running 600 test e a week) just in case it was underdosed. Thinking about putting some winstrol on my last 4 weeks but I’m sure of a mg. Your doing great ----
I appreciate it my man. I'm old school and read a lot of my old medical books I have and damn near re-read the endocrinology book 2-3 times. The E2 making it take too long makes sense since I was fine up until about the beginning of week 3 when it probably started to creep up and prolactin followed.
Rustyhooker6.25 ed and retest. E2 up and prolactin followed. Prolactin stunts that orgasm. Like on edge forever before boom. B6 at 300mg daily for prolactin help.
Started B6 this morning after seeing the prolactin levels. I know aromasin works pretty quick on lowering serum estrogen and has as long half-life, so I'm gonna do 6.25 ED and then retest in a week and see what my levels are at
RustyhookerAro 3hr half life. But its suicidal so the e2 it grabs is not going back to the system. The conversion always hoes on per your natural rate but adex as example holds but once you stop if the e2 is still active it rebounds...causes a spike. Good stuff just used differently.
Aromasin 3 hour half life? Where'd you see that? Ive read 24 hours in women and 9 in men. Never heard 3 hours though.
Rustyhooker8.9 hrs in clinicals study. But found another suggested 3...let me dig a minute
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14671195/
Yea, I knew about the suicidal part of aromasin vs adex. Aromasin is only 3-hour half life? Everything I saw said that its roughly 24 hours.
Yea it has a longer half life
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