+ 2 test results in (bout time)
so i finally got my blood results for my kigtropin. sorry about the wait... i was expecting to get the results alot sooner, well better late than never i guess.
i was taking 5iu in the am first thing each day.
my kigs are batch no: 20110715 they are stamped on the box and printed on the vial.
Hormone Test
Free T4 0.6 (low) ng/dL range 0.7-2.5
IGF-1 280 ng/ml range 100-300
the most unfortunate thing is not having a baseline to compare results with...
IGF @ 280 is in the high normal range, but an hour after injecting 5iu of HGH i would have expected it to be at a super physiological level, no? i mean its high, but doesn't look so high as to imply drug use.
the free t4 is low, if the IGF scored higher i would have taken this as a sign of legit GH but turns out a may just be hypo :/ im going to come of everything for a couple of weeks and get blood work done with my propper doctor and if my thyroid comes back low again i will probably have to go on thyroxine.
i would rather have to take a little pull each day than have a under active thyroid. anyway whats everybody thoughts on the tests?
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where did you get you gh?
jasonhEHP
jasonhok saw doc today to go over bloodwork. i know this is going to be a debate but ill go along with doctor.doctor says my igf level is LOW(141ng/ml) so i ask him if i was taking 3 iu of hgh a day what would that meen hes reply, what im taking is apsolutly not hgh. (t3 level 3.5 t4 level1.2 both normal) so i feel that with those numbers a pre, or post test is unneccesary to determine that EHP kigtropin batch number 20110715 mfg date 2011.07.15 is fake
tread-mA pretest would have been nice. I am going to do a proper test on these soon myself I think. If you were jjust on 5 iu's hgh a day and no test your axis won't balance that much, not eve n close so the reading means nothing to me. You need proper balance i n the axis to use that sort of volume and that "REQUIRES" test use. If you were to have pre-use bloods and then run 2 iu's for a period of time thats a plan, but 5 with no testosterone to blance it and no pre-bloods just will not do much for me personally. Poppin you +3 for the effort here anyway. Do let us know the results of your next bloods in a couple weeks. The hgh could suppress T-4 and if it becomes normal and igf goes down that may actually tell us more.
jasonhyea ive been following and learning didnt know much about blood work and hgh. didnt think about pretest cause i wasnt worried about legitamicy of product when i bought as all reviews were good only after i ordered screams of bunk went out. and i have no idea what info we can get from the test report other than i would like to see some high numbers (ended a 16 week test deca equipose cycle a week prior to test that should throw things off 2) can say this didnt get numbness like i did from first hgh run but skin looks good and hair nails are growing like crasy think somethings in it igf fragmented( thats what doc ordered from blood also t3 andt4 and all the other things he wants to check as he knows im coming off heavy cycle)
tread-mYeah thats me jason, nails grow at light speed and buzz my hair at least once a week, skin better and fuller with lower bf etc. All good signs and you're right, a lot of frag all over the cheaper market but I know peps from running them a lot and most of this is not pep. Have had some different ones I know were at minimal low grade having got that warm flush like you do with peps but most of your peps mix instantly. Most will literally disappear when the first drop of water hits them to where most of the kigs I've sen take a bit, the jin I've had on several occassion including at current mix slower and I now have the asumne and tai in route. Have pretty good word on the tai so I think it will be a pretty good one. Theres so much to it I think you have to be sure the whole hormone system is in balance so there are no negative feedbacks at test time and you know your insulin is proper and the axis has the ability to balance which is prompting igf-1 production. I think the besg way to tell is to test natty and then test after a bit at 2 iu's of hgh no test and then ramp up running test and hgh at 5 ish and test again. I know, perfect world. I even think you could test running say prop only for a couple weeks given that will ramp igf-1 to some degree on its own through axis balance and then throw in the hgh and test again in a few weeks. Many ways to go about it but no pre-test is tough science to solve and I think you need 2 seperate tests with a ramp up change to get good idea. I wish we had about 5 of us or more who could follow an exact protocol and do double tests on specific hgh brands with a specific supplier and find the best out there but it would take time and organzation and might be pretty tough to coordinate I don't know.
Willing to try, but will not be using HGH alone. I need to get back on some form of T.
What blood work would you like to see as baseline? Anything I can say to Dr to suggest throwing in IGF-1 on top of several of the others I will be getting done?
I'll have baseline work from January, but don't remember IGF-1 included.
Will have work done Friday to measure me when I'm in bad shape and want to figure how to have IGF-1 tacked on for free. I'll have a few rounds of copay only over a month assuming I'm getting better. Then would only need to pay out of pocket for one round of tests. Have one kit of Taitropin, don't think it is necessary to post the source at this point.
jasonhdid get test done last week doc wants me to come in to discuss results (not sure if thats good or not)cant get in till next friday so will postresults then. been running kigs at 3iu for couple months didnt change dose or dose timing for test
make sure you get back to me on what the doc says man
make sure you get back to me on what the doc says man
I get sketched out about buying underground GH. I bet 75% of it are peptides that basically give u same side effects as GH. Thank god I got almost six months worth of real genotropin from pfizer for whenever im ready to start GH. Thing is, im gonna want to run it for a year so ill need to get my brother to give me more pfizer (he's prescribed) or im gonna have to find a reliable GH source.
wish i could afford pfizer stuff bro, and get a doc to fill me a script... till that day im done with gh, probably stick with peps. aas offer way more bang for your buck in tearms of anabolism and i dont want to pay high prices for bunk chinese crap anymore. does your brother not need that gh for himself? he must be perscribed alot to be able to give u enough for a cycle!!
jasonhthanks for the post ive got same batch and will be getting bloodwork done next fri. ill post results also have no base line and am currently on cycle would expect high numbers if legit. do you notice be extremly tired and low energy on this batch of kigs? not sure what thats about
i experiance low energy and have done for years, never realy knew why but the test result indicate hypothyroidism. theres a few theorys about why some feel lethargic on gh. reduced insulin sesitivity is one...
What source was your kigtropin from? There are so many fakes out now its hard to separate who has what.
judys kigs. alot of stress with all these fakes now days, i might just throw my hat @ hgh with the amount of money involved... i know a peptide sorce that independant tests have been done on their products on another forum and it was legit. i would feel more comfortable spending my money there on Ghrp 2 + mod grf... the hgh market is too flooded with fakes
HGH is expensive and u gotta be on it for like 6 months or more to get good results I herd...so are u running test with it??? I would just stick to the basics test,food,lift,sleep. What's your goals brotha?
yes, i know you have to be on it for at least 6 months to see results i got the blood test to make sure the stuff was legit before i commited the amout of money nesessary for 6mo of gh @ 5iu a day... and im glad i did as it looks like it may be bunk. and no test, testosterone raises IGF and would alter the blood test results