First HGH run
Hey guys. First run with HGH. Goals - basically everything HGH is known for. Starting at a low dose (though I've increased it more quickly than expected, haven't noticed any side effects). Anti aging, raise the dose - muscle building, fat loss, and injury healing. Had spinal surgery in June and suffering with back injuries for four years. Will continue to raise the dose until I can do about ten iu for a couple months.
I ordered two vials of 240iu ea (I was going to get more but the source was low on stock). They sent 2 boxes of 10 vials of 24iu, whatever same amount. I added 2ml bac water. If my math is right, then one iu is at about the tick mark 8.3. Only about two weeks in, I've raised the dosage rapidly, doing about 1.5 iu 2 times a day, tick mark 12.
I figured at that dose that quickly I'd see the sides expected like bloat and headache. Nothing.
Only side that's really bugging me is the injection sites - I've got painful welts all over my belly. A little pain to the touch but moreso just weird looking. It is still beach season but I almost don't want to take my shirt off.
Any advice on reducing the pain and welts? Next vial I'll do only 1ml, though idk if that will make it better or worse.
I have to just try to not worry that it's bunk, in a state where I can't get bloods. I know not everyone gets the sides...
Pretty sure my math is right...
24 iu in 2 mL = 12 iu in 1ml
So a full 100 syringe should have 12ml
100/12 = 8.3 = 8.3 ticks is one iu
I think....
Thank you all.
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Maybe you can try intramuscular injection instead of subcutaneous. I have been reading much on this and it looks like there isn’t much difference in effect but safer and no antigens will be created. This is just what I have read so don’t follow this method. I just find so much conflicting info on this topic. I would listen to Makwa.
I have read that intramuscular and subcutaneous result in the same igf-1 levels are the same. I prefer intramuscular personally.
I've gone through a couple more vials subscription, still no problems.
*subcutaneous
It sounds like either way is ok. At least from what I’ve read.
Update.
Took quite a bit time off. I would have just switched brands if money was no object, but also I wanted to make sure I wasn't knocking the product and source.. reconstituted with pharma bac water at 1 mL.
Over the past month or so I've worked my way up to about 2.5 iu once in the morning. I'm now on the third vial since restarting.
No pain or itchiness at the injection site. No red bumps/welts. No unknown illness.
So, either that one vial I started with had something wrong with it (and hoping not another does, will update again if so)... Or the "reconstitution water" from Amazon was causing the problems.
Also, since starting the third vial this time around and raising the dosage about a week ago, I don't see a difference in them, but my hands, holy shit it's annoying, my hands feel like they are swollen. Like after going for a long walk when it's hot and humid outside.
Wish I could get bloods, but I can't, so that's really my only indicator at this time that it may be good.
RustyhookerBoom....hands know....gets annoying at times though
The welts are most likely from the GH you are using and not the BAC. Switch brands.
I don't know if it's coincidence but I got sick this weekend. Felt it coming on Friday, Saturday a headache, woke up Sunday shaking, sweating, high fever. I'm assuming it's coincidence and not these injections to blame...
But... I'm leaning towards the water, maybe not that got me sick, but the welts. Got it from Amazon labeled "reconstitution water". Checked reviews before I bought it, saw 73% five stars so I bought it. Just looked again, and read some of them... the 21% 1 star reviews mention painful bumps. So I'll ditch the first vial. Ordered bac water from a medical supply website. I'll update a few days after I restart.
Too bad the review section here for accessories hasn't been touched in years. A couple of the top sources aren't even in business anymore.
I've used Bac water from amazon plenty of times and never had any issues. Amazon used to be the only place you could get it. All the med supply companies were always sold out.
He mentioned below :
Maybe should be more concerned about spinal injury, spinal surgery and wanting to ramp up to 10ius for several months
My experience with high doses was Edema and pinchy nerves in areas where I’ve had previous injuries (neck , rotator) not to mention carpel tunnel issues from high doses
I’m not a doctor or even close…but..I’d speak to my surgeon before taking high doses of Gh….maybe look into synthetic growth factors and stem cell
I’ve had those done (post surgery , torn rotator) with positive results
Todays longevity Gh protocols are usually low doses at 1-3 (4) IUS (Dr Rand)
What does that have to do with me using BAC from amazon and not having issues with it. Preach to someone else.
Post was really for him (jimmie - spinal surgery..using 10ius Gh Vs PRP, growth factors, stem cell)
Was agreeing with you its prolly not the bac water
He said he used the same water before with no welts
I shoulda made 2 separate posts
Post was kinda preachy tho…lol
hey man
sorry to hear that.
actually recent 2-3 years, i seldom got the red welt report from the clients. we do the lab analysis for each batch after its coming out, purity is always between 96%-98%, which is good as generic.
pls try to put more bac water and low dose to pin it, if u still get red welt, u should stop and contact us. thanks
Maybe consulting your doctor first before using a black market (generic) product for a serious injury? Just a thought
Over the years the red welts have been more common in the “generics” but it does happen in Pharma. Could be as simple as the contents (proprietary blend) or elevated high dimer content (elevated endotoxin) common n the “generics “
I think this source would recommend diluting more with bac water (similar to adding oil to high mg gear using super solvents that causes lumps)
If it’s causing welts with each subQ injection……changing brands might be the more practical thing to do IMO
Hgh or a Visl of oil
Whether it’s red welts or painful lumps with each inject…..sometimes switching brands is the easiest fix
RustyhookerI think @HailRazor made a post on the welts. Hes a smart dude on hgh and thats who i ask for advice there
Looked through his posts can't find it. Maybe he'll chime in.
The welts are not a good sign I had a similar issue few years back and ended up having to go to the er because a welt turned into an abcess. Could be an issue with the gh or it could be an issue with your water. I’m not saying it’s recommended but I have read on using regular distilled water to reconstitute hgh and I’ve personally done it myself with no issues of foaming hgh and worked just fine. Might be a way you can determine if you have an issue with the water being used or if it’s the actual gear. Best of luck keep us posted.
Your math is correct. If you added 2.4ml of bac water, that would give you 1 iu per 10 ticks. The painful welts are not good in my opinion. Where did you get the GH from?
It's against the rules to say that here. Which I've never understood but it's whatever, I'll follow the God dam rules to a T for another 240 years.
I see what you did there --.
Not used GH myself but hopefully someone with experience will chime in soon.
I thought it was creative --
Nicely done.
But on a serious note PM the source with a link to this thread or photos of the welts. Update us on their response on this thread or their discussion page, or both.
It would be good for the community to see how the source handles it. GH isn't cheap and I would be pissed if this was my first run as well. On the discussion page others will likely chime in if also having issues with their GH.
Lmao. I had no idea what the fuck you were talking about. I think I get it now.
Huh? I can't remember all the damn rules. Lol Post a pic then.
Vials are not labeled. They just look like vials lol ... Fr sent
I have seen the same thing.. FR sent
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