posted Sat, 03/02/2013 - 19:10
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TRT and estrogen
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Have been on TRT for over 2 yrs, am 50 yrs old runnin about 170 mg of test E a week
Last bloods came back at 837 test serum and 50.4 estradiol, my question is do you think I should reduce the esto or is it in line? I don't seem to be having any sides,or none that I'm aware of. Thanks in advance for any help
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You tell Yoked, "Ain't nothing wrong with watching chick flicks" .....especially the X rated kind! I'm not far behind you in age and started experimenting with all kinds of "natural" ways to reduce estro. The liver is the body's metabolizer of estro, and many other things. So to keep that thing in tip top shape, NO drinking, lots of H20 with the juice of 1 lemon will help with bile flow, NAC, milk thistle, alpha lipoic acid, TUDCA, dandelion root, lots of fiber. I cycle thru these yearly never staying on any one more that 8 weeks or so. Healthy fats to keep cholesterol in check, Almond butter, natural peanut butter, fresh salmon....Sounds like your a gym rat so keep the cardio up, I do every other morning on a empty stomach for 30-40 minutes, also helps keep me sane (hasn't worked yet).... Us older guys have to also think about prostate health, cruciferous vegetables, Saw palmetto, pumpkin seed, boron... My workout partner just had to get reemed up his penis (I said the same thing) cause he couldn't urinate, takes all kinds of roids and no support supplements... last thing, I started supplementing with pregnenolone @50mgs every morning and seems to help a lot... I know, I know... probably asking yourself, "Got damn, this dude takes alot of shit".... remember, 1 liver sup, 1 prostate sup, and pregnenolone just makes me feel good ;-) I've said this once, and I'll say it again..... "YOKED HAS A NICE ASS" Lmaaooooo
Great info! Thanks luva
What exactly was the reason for the "penis reaming"? Like a physical blockage or something?
yeah my man, his prostate was squeezing around his urethra inhibiting urine flow. The crazy thing is his PSA levels were 0.9, and during a prostate exam, no physical exterior swelling was detected, weird..... They cored him like an apple, thats how he explained it to me. Had to use a catheter for 2 weeks but everything seems back to normal now.
Estro is slightly elevated but nothing mind boggling. If you're not having any issues then just keep monitoring it. What was your doctors response to this? Or did you run labs independently?
I haven't got my doc involved with the TRT, I get my own blood work, I wonder if the Test would work better with the estro a bit lower? What side effects are related to that besides the obvious sore/tender nipples?
Excess water retention, acne breakouts, uncontrollable urge to watch chick flicks. Just the common stuff lol.
Actually, I was basing those numbers upon a different age group. Might be a good idea to throw an AI in the mix to try to lower it a bit. Since you're an older man, elevated estro levels can have an added increase in the possibility of a stroke. Looks like you need to try to drop it about 15-20 points to get back in the safe range.
Thanks sounds like good advice,
Get some aromasin and run it at 12.5mg eod for a while. Then get your bloods ran again and see where you fall. The increased insistence of stroke is what made me rethink my first response. That risk is there with all AAS users, but does increase with age.
Will do! Thanks for your expertise, what do you think about my test #? I train my ass off 5 days a week in the gym, and the results are pretty amazing
Yeah those are healthy numbers bro, especially at your age. I'm not trying to call you old by the way lol.
Well sometimes I need to act my age! I drive my wife crazy with my energy!!
Good for you. Vitality helps keep you young. I'm much younger than you but have been on TRT for a while. Made some bad choices early on and am paying the price for it now. Though I'm actually really enjoying myself a lot, so I guess it's a small price to pay.
Where is your test running around? Are you on HgH, I have been for several years and boy between that and the test its unbelievable
My last test levels were about 350 but I just came off an 8 week blast and had to let my leveks drop for insurance purposes. The test before that when I was blasting had my levels above 1500. That's as high as they're testing goes. I'm probably under 300 if I have zero exogenous test in me. Yes I run hgh as well. That stuff is amazing. Currently running riptropin at 4ius a day, but I'm going to switch to tevtropin in about a week.
I'm doing the rips as well at 2.5 Ed, why the switch?
I have both. Tevs are actual pharmaceutical hgh and are very potent. Just more expensive than rips.
I'm assuming a ton more expensive!! Can you feel the difference between pharm and rips?
They're about twice as expensive, but you can use basically half as much. Plus I do the numbness in my hands and stiff joints nearly as bad. Rips are really damn good quality though. Best non pharma gh I've ran.
I'm lucky I don't get those sides from growth, however I did in the beginning and it was the shits. I did some hygetropin some months back and experienced those sides again so I'm loyal to the rips,