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PCT & TRT

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Hello anyone who is currently on TRT therapy. Im in Australia so i cant answer for other countries but from my first step into TRT territory i have found there is not much choice available.

After test count was taken & seen as low i was put on an injectable called Reandron 100. Had 3 shots of this over a 7-8 month period (very long ester) The doctor than decided to put me on testogel which i have been on since having to rub it into skin once a day.

I have just come off a 12 week cycle of test E & EQ & am wondering if PCT is the same for us as it it for others without Test shortage problems. I mean by taking Clomid,Nolva etc its not going to bring back my Levels because they wernt there in the first place. I have just gone back on my Test Gel to artificially bring back levels.

Is this enough or should i still be taking other as well. Little confused because of my situation

Thanks

Bertelsman's picture

I have been taking the minimal dose of testogel (50mg) of which around 10% is absorbed into the body (according to the medical literature) for almost three months. Free test went from 124 to 225 and I am paying full price $95 for a four week supply. So either I get a job or try black market. So far the black market is looking like a good, cost effective approach to just bringing my levels to a normal figure. My recommendation is to use the gel in the maximum dose 100mg. It also has far less effectiveness when sweating or showering within 6 or so hours after application. Best of luck.

jkc's picture

I'm on 250mg Test E a week TRT. My Doc prescribed 300mg of cyp a month.I feel better with the higher dose. I am running the Test E and saving the Cyp for my fall cycle. Been running this going on 4 months now. I'm still making adjustments to the dosage of Test and Adex to find my sweetspot. I will be starting my first short cycle in a couple of weeks of Prop/NPP.I have always used Long ester cycles. Looking forward to it. I myself hated the gels. Life is so much better on IM injections. I am also thinking of using Test Prop during my cruise TRT. I like what others are saying about it. Making adjustments and all.Gorillafit uses Prop on TRT and seems to like it. As far as I know PCT is not necessary. My Doc. has not said anything about it. I plan on doing this Cruise and Blast for 1 year with 2 maybe 3 cycles. Blood test also of coarse. Still researching the PCT protocol.
It all comes down to you and your body. Everyone is different with different sweetspots. Blood test are a must. Is it possible for you to find a doctor that will order more test for you, or possible to get test elsewhere? As said earlier. Maybe some longer cruisers will chime in. Good luck and keep us informed on what you decide. Friend Tread, Viking, and Gorillafit.

bigrigger's picture

I split up the cyp 100 twice a week. Seems to keep things fairly level. Finding the sweet spot for estrogen control was a little more trial and error. Here in Canada you need a dr. to get bloods done. Since my dr. wouldn't give me trt to begin with I didn't go that route. Treads knowledge in what to look for was golden in helping me find the sweet spot. Can't thank him enough for his wealth of knowledge. If only the daily penis shots would stop comming now!

bigrigger's picture

I am on 200 cyp per wk trt seems to be my sweet spot . Libido still good. Keeping most of cycle gains. Adex .25 e3d keeps the estrogen in ck. went to adex .25 eod got sore joints and libido got weird so cut it back to e3d. Found my sweet spot

Pushit's picture

I wish they would allow for a shot of test here in Australia but it doesnt appear to be an option & i dont know if its on PBS list (government discount for approved people).

Yes im doing exactly the same atm with Adex. Im just biting tab in 1/2 & having 1/2 every third day or if i feel my nipples are becoming sensitive

ozmusc's picture

Hey mate, they give shots of Reandron 1000 (testosterone Undecanoate) here in Oz on the PBS
Supposed to last 12 weeks between shots but most on it find 8 - 10 is better

Press your doc to get you on it, way better than gel

Pushit's picture

Mate if you look at my original post you'll see ive been on it. Doc got nervous though when he saw one of the ricks in taking it is prostrate cancer.

Thats when he said im putting you on Gel. I don't know how to argue with a Doctor

They believe my lack of Test is due to me having Sleep Apnea (yes it can cause problems for gland that secretes it) Until i have certain tests it looks like im stuck on gel unless cycling.

I could see a Cosmetic surgeon here on the Gold Coast but would have to pay full price (not an option)

ozmusc's picture

Oh, sorry bud didn't see your original post.

Get a new doc, mine couldn't get me on it quick enough!

fast48's picture

On tge 40's trt forums is gorillafit. Send him friend request...tap his name and on his screen..add friend. Viking too.

Pushit's picture

Thanks guys, Ok that sounds good. Yeah the Gel is shit shit shit. It holds like like 5% test & the rest is either Alcohol or gel so it just gets you in bottom part of low side of scale.

Big downer after having TEST E for 12 weeks & having raging libido. My wife didn't know what the heck was going on.

Any-ways yes my major concern was if any extra estrogen was floating around & how to negate this.

So you think i should be hitting Nolva once a day? What's the dosage you have taken in the past after Cycle?

fast48's picture

Nolva by week...40....40....20...20 . Week one 40 per day....week two is 40/dy etc for a month. The gel of course needs a clean shaved spot. Maybe your regular doc can do the 200cyp every two Weeks. Of coyrse your libido is higher on cycle but regulating your cruise should still have you happy.

Fullypumped's picture

To the best of my knowledge you wont need to hop on PCT protocol.. You just go back to your regular TRT cruise Brother. As for the Gel for TRT after a cycle, someone else will need to chime in on that one. WHERES FAST48 AT!??

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fast48's picture

I haven't hit the cruise n blasts yet but am close to it. The other guys postings said yes go back to your cruise. They used ai on cycle....but with gel I'd be lost on giving proper advice. The other posts showed guys cruising on the 200cyp every two Weeks. So i'm not sure if the gel holds that level. Fully guessing that nolva to combat estro sounds feasable...but having a guru cruiser would be better answering. Clomid isn't necessary though.

Fullypumped's picture

Whats that section called? "OLD BASTARDS AND TRT"??? Lol check in that forum Bro

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fast48's picture

Looks from the header like he's got this in the trt forum. All forums hit the main screen. Was hoping one of the regulars was online. They usually come on bout now.