posted Sun, 09/18/2016 - 09:02
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Is 3 weeks long enough off test e before blood draw for trt
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I'm 44 and in the best shape of my life. However, difficulty initiating urine flow, frequent piss at night, difficulty initiating and maintaining erections, and general low energy have prompted a dr visit. My urologist is sending me for a hormone panel. I have 3 weeks from my last 300mg test e injection (every 4 days for the last 4 months) until blood draw. Will it be enough time for my test to drop low enough to qualify for TRT, which is what he's considering? I wasn't expecting him to recommend this, obviously, or I would certainly have prepared. Naturally, I'm just asking for a general ballpark idea, since I have no current lab work.
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You should ask you doc about prescribing a low dose of cialis around 5mg/day. At that dose it will help with your ED and may assist if you do have prostate issues.
Sounds like your experiencing prostate related issues. Here is my recommendation:
DIM (Diindolymethane or I3X (Indole -3- Carbinol, ) This is to decrease estradiol levels. Bioflavinoids are also important: e.g.: Quercitin, isoquercitin, and Curcumin for inflamation.
@idgaf, you've clearly been through a lot this year. Pain med withdrawals, a long cycle on testosterone, and now you're looking at trying to "balance your endocrine system with TRT." Dang!
You've got the right idea below, reading your comments. Step back, breath deeply, and "take some time off from medicine for awhile."
Once your PCT is done, keep lifting hard and eating right. If your prostate doesn't start feeling better, then you know you have an issue that requires medical attention.
As always, you know your body better than anyone else. If something is wrong, seek medical help.
As an outsider reading your situation, it's clear that your body needs rest from medicine. Do a solid PCT and stay natty for four to six months.
Besides, if you go natty for six months, you can start another blast around St. Patrick's Day. When everyone else is planning on getting shit canned, you can be planning your next party too.
You'll need about 50 to 60 days for all of that test to be out of your system.
You might be in the normal to high normal in 20 to 30 days.
Sounds like you're trying to get on TRT. You know your system will not have time to "reboot" before your blood draw.
Problem is, even if the levels return as low normal or well below normal, you'll have a lot of explaining to do when your RBC levels are high, cholesterol is high, your estrogen levels are high, and your prostate is enlarged etc..
If you're trying to get relief from your symptoms you're not doing yourself any favors by trying to get your doc to put you on TRT.
Do as Makwa suggested. Run a PCT, and I'd donate some blood as well.
After your PCT go see your doc. and revisit any lingering issues.
Going on SCRIPTED TRT is not an overnight process. It can easily take upto a year or more.
Upside is, you'll have a doctor monitoring your bloods.
Downside is, you'll be on TRT
Thank you for your intelligent, pertinent reply. Your points are well taken and appreciated. Although the allure of TRT is powerful, I've been considering the wisdom of a lifelong decision. The real reason for my doctor potentially considering TRT is to get me back on track after a long bout of pain meds that have wreaked havoc on my endocrine system. His consensus is to attempt a relatively short term TRT regimen which aims to restore me to natural levels. My visit to his office was simply to get help for what I perceived as prostate issues. I'm not entirely convinced his program will do anything other than create a dependency on exogenous test. While pharm grade, paid for by ins, would be the bees knees, it would end any future cycling, as I would be subject to regular bloods.
At this point, I'm going to run pct as usual and see what the blood test shows. I'll probably decline TRT and ask for prostate treatment alone and tell him I'm using my own protocol to try and balance my endocrine. I finally kicked all of my pain meds, which wasn't easy. Morphine, dilaudid and gabapentin took a long time of withdrawals and sickness to overcome the dependency. Running my cycle during the process actually aided me in the process. Now I have to get evened out to my natty self again and start anew.
P.S. I would upvote you if I could, lol.
Odds are he'll suggest clomed therapy which is costly because most insurance will not cover it.
Cheaper to buy online than through your doctor.
You are still going to have exogenous test in your system. Will it be low enough to qualify for TRT, your cutting it pretty close. The last thing you want to do though is go on TRT when you don't really need it. You are going to regret it if your natural system is working fine. Run a PCT and then see whether or not you need to go on TRT.
If youre shooting for trt levels then why risk it? 3 weeks will be a coin flip. Id probably give it 4 or 5 just to make sure. Agree with below that prostate is certainly one of your issues from the sounds of it. Estro may be off too.
Thank you for a decent reply.
A 17+ week cycle of 525 mg/week. (Just how long did you plan to keep going on that cycle)
In answer to your question, maybe, but probably not. But every one is different. What was your starting level, what quality of Test E were you using. Sounds like you my have an estro problem.
Research,......... How much did you do?
You're right about the length of my cycle, I just got carried away. I've been under the assumption it was prostate as well. I had a major surgery in April which ended up with me on a lot of pain meds; i.E. morphine ER, dilaudid, and gabapentin. All of those meds are known for screwing up T levels as well as causing total libido crash and testicular atrophy. I extended the cycle length to maximize the healing process, as part of my injury was the complete severing of muscle bellies in my left forearm, as well as the median and ulnar nerves and both arteries.
And taking more Test further screws up your test levels.
Smh
I get it, you have an insatiable urge to troll me. I won't waste my time giving you explanations and trying to measure up to your idea of perfect aas protocol, as I'm sure you are certainly an Internet guru. Thank you for racking up your post count with inane troll posts. Raise that post count number so you feel even smarter, lol. I realize boards like this are chock full of trolls who think they know everything after they read a Bill Roberts article and go from 135 lbs to 165 "with abs" after their first cycle.
Nope, you're just another one of these youngster that think getting on TRT is the cats meow.
Face it, if you didn't run into problems with your cycle and visit the doctor, you would have run a continuous cycle with no planned end,........at no point have you even brought up PCT.
Now you figure you might get on trt, whether you need it or not.
My point of view is,........every time someone cheats their way or tries to cheat their way on to TRT, it just makes it harder for the people that really need it.
If I were creating cycle log thread, I would have mentioned my entire protocol. As it stands, it was a planned 16 weeker of test and EQ, thus 4 months; not far off target. I had a couple CC's left in the test and prefer to run it past the EQ anyways. I have more than enough of multiple pct ancillaries on hand. My question asked for a simple ballpark guestimation, not for an elderly review panel of my protocol and lack of perfection in cycle planning, nor was I asking for a character assault from somebody with a holier-than-thou stick up their hemorrhoid inflamed ass.
3 weeks is probably the minimum amount of time I would feel comfortable with, depending on the person it may or may not be enough time. Hard to determine if you haven't had any bloodwork in the past.
Sounds like prostate issues from what you describe, make sure you get your psa checked with that bloodwork.