Dbol side effects, Terrible, need advice
Hi,
49 years old. Been training weights regulraly for about 16 years. 190 lbs about 12 % BF. Cross train with road biking and stair stepper.
Okay, I started my first ever cycle about 2 weeks ago. I followed the plan, to the letter in the thread on this forum"How to run a cycle." So briefly, I pin 250 mg of test E each Sunday and Wednesday. Also, I've been taking Dbol. Herein lies, I think, the problem. I can only tolerate, at max 20 mg a day of the dbol. I've been taking 10mg in the morning and 5 mg preworkout (afternoons) and 5 mg post workout. I'm taking Life Support as a supplement and Animal Paks (only 1 a day). If I try to take more dbol than the 20 mg, my blood pressure explodes and my head throbs. I've gained about 6 lbs of weight in the 2 weeks on dbol. I seem stronger--most days--at the gym but not off the chart strong. Pumps are painful when they never had been before. Appetite is good. I have occasional nipple pain but it passes. I'm taking .5 mg anastrozle EOD.
I took my BP today 162/80. This is crazy high for me. Usually in the 120/60 range. I hate the high BP feeling and I'm considering dropping the dbol completely. My questions are:
would it be okay to drop the dbol and just continue the test E? Or, should I gut it out and stop the dbol as planned after week 4? Also, since I can't tolerate more the 20 mg daily, is it even worth taking?
Thanks! I appreciate any thoughts you may have.
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I'm also super suseptable to Dbol sides, BP, back pain were real bad and bloat like I've never seen before or since. In fact I defy anyone to gain more water than I do on Dbol. Dreadful stuff.
I ran 50mg/ed once and ended up so f#cking round I was scared to leave the house incase I tripped over and rolled off down the bastard hill.
Hi,
Thanks for the great advice. I ditched the Dbol (orals are not for me) about a week ago. BP is back to about normal and I fell MUCH better after dropping the dBol. I'm still running Test E alone and have finished week 4. This is my first cycle. Strength is improving, somewhat, and I do get angry a little faster than normal. LOL. I'll see how the Test E only cycle goes. I plan on running it for 12 weeks total.
Anyway, I'm happy to have dropped the Dbol!!!!!! For me it wasn't worth the side effects including potential liver damage, etc. My next cycle will not include any orals.
Thanks again for the advice!
10mg dball always worked well for me.
Im glad you posted this to get some discussions on dball at our age.
I would love too, I just thought it would be too toxic at my age (40)
At 49 sounds like the dbol may be too toxic for your system per se. Probably Tbol + Test E is better alternative for you. Much cleaner & dryer, good gains, less to no sides and bp is hardly an issue.
Honestly if I take 15mg per day or 60mg per day dbol it raises bp 10 points no matter what. dose does not really matter for me. (at least not enough to be a deal killer)
For example my normal BP is 129/83
on dbol its 140/86
Yeah, that's dbol for ya. 20mg's/day is all I can handle, and even with that my BP/heart rate was thru the roof. One time I was walking on the treadmill to get my system pumped and primed for the workout, just STARTED at a nice heavy pace and was only on it for maybe a minute and checked my heart rate..it was around 160 BPM. Kinda high for not even breaking a sweat...needless to say, I carried thru with my workout kinda gingerly though..as that kinda scared me.
Thanks for all the great advice. I'm stopping the dbol today. I'll continue the test at 500 mg a week. Hopefully the sides will be much fewer. I was never completely sold on dbol because of the liver toxicity issue.
Hopefully, I don't get dbol withhdrawl. I have 8 weeks left of the test e (now alone) cycle.
Thanks again!
It's all about positive nitrogen retention according to what research I've done on the subject. Without gear when we lift weights our bodies produce nitrogen from protein we eat. After the workout is over, usually one half hour for me, the pump or the nitrogen subsides and is released from the body. However, when on gear our bodies for the most part don't allow this. In other words the extra red blood cells and nitrogen cause your blood to be thick like 10w-30 weight tractor oil lol. Drop the Dbol as others have stated for your first cycle bub and continue with just test. Also aspirin will help thin your blood out slightly
1jakd_hipyThe best way to avoid Dbol sides is not use it, personally not a fan.
Are you drinking over gallon water each day and no/low salt? .5 is a high dose of adex but if nips are irritated.
Everybody reacts to substances differently. Some people are super sensitive and not good candidates for anabolics. I would drop the dbol and look into something for your BP.
TropicanaJuiceJust like many many vets have stated first cycle should only be Test E so you can see how your body reacts, dbol is notorious for high bp.and water retention. I'd deff drop the dbol. Dropping the dbol is going to be fine and help you with your sides.
You have to be the judge it's your body and you know how you should or should not feel. Anyway the d Bol is just a kick starter now for the dose your gonna hear some say outrageous amounts but I've done good in the past at 10- 20mg. You can try to take it at a lower dose and see if it benifits you any if not simply drop it. You might try next cycle to run test prop as a kicker and do away with the Orals all together.
I would drop the dbol. It is recommended to just stick with test only for a first cycle anyways.