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Blasting and Cruising

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So Im on TRT and have no interest in ever coming off of TRT. My questions are: 1. What does everyone think of blasting and cruising? 2. Is a 500mg/wk test x12 wks a good cycle for a nube to pop their proverbial cherry on? 3. Do you cruise for an equal amount of time you blasted i.e. 12 on 12 off?

Goose24's picture

Ugh... here we go again..

frankyfourfingerz's picture

i work out 5 days a week, loosely following arnolds blueprint at the moment but i vary routines about every two weeks because i get somewhat bored doing the same things repeatedly. I have been eating clean and in a 500 cal per day deficit since december but tbh prior to that i ate very terribly. My goal is really pretty simple I suppose just want to be stronger and more defined. For example my BP for reps is 225 ( orm is 265) but id like to make 315 and ive been stuck where im at for a couple years now, same with squats and deadlifts im at 315 but would like to hit 405. My chest is 44 inches and my waist is 36 inches and id like to widen that gap a bit maybe 48 and 34, something like that

press1's picture

Ridiculous - You haven't even done a first cycle yet and you are already asking about Blasting and cruising?

In fact its worse, you don't even know what to run for a first cycle.

frankyfourfingerz's picture

this is why i asked, have you more to add? Im here to learn. Perhaps I should explain my rationale for considering this method: 1. I dont half ass do anything 2. I already know i can tolerate test so it’s theoretically probable i can handle more for a brief run 3. if that doesn’t work out i reserve the right to change course bow my head and admit i fucked up 4. realistically one cycle is not going to change a whole lot in terms of visibility which will only push me to try again 5. ventral tegmental area and nucleus accumbens 6. how many people you ever heard tried one cycle like it and said ya im good i think ill just retire now lol

0newheelup's picture

He's on a doc trt. 16-20wks is too long for his first. Even though 500mg is a moderate dose, he doesn't know how his body reaction will be. These reactions can affect blood results, so 12wks will give him another 12wks for lipids, blood pressure, even his e2 to balance back out. Not to mention u walk into the docs office weighing 15lbs more of water retention, muscle, and ance. That doc is gonna question. Once he knows how his body does and he has some experience with ai's and short esters, then he cld stretch it out to these longer programs. I know u cld handle the balance.. jmo

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frankyfourfingerz's picture

excellent TY!

Halsey's picture

Didnt you say you were a dr? Test only cycle is always revered as the best to start with. Also why go straight into blasting and cruising until you've maxed out your trt gains first?

Rule of thumb is time on should equal time off, but blasting and cruising seems to get out of hand pretty easy. Watch your bloods and take your time.

Halsey's picture

I agree that the trt would be the cruising part for some people. I personally dont like when the term trt is used loosely. I think trt is prescribed by an actual doctor, not a clinic, for primary or secondary failure. I'm just commenting in general, not specifically about this op, but there are tons of people who self prescribe trt and these clinics will treat anybody who has money.

Also keep in mind that there are people who cruise on more than test only and those who cruise on more than trt doses of test. The two terms can be quite different.

0newheelup's picture

^^^^agreed 100%.... Cruising I self regulated and not regulated by a doc. Also, Most of the time ur using unregulated ugl drugs to self medicate and u don't how strong they are.

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0newheelup's picture

Yo dickhead, this has been covered across threads only a thousand times already!!! Jk, lol... alot of these topics are asked and talked about alot, But I enjoy these conversations with new members. +1

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Halsey's picture

Np dickhead

frankyfourfingerz's picture

ty, yes and i did (also edited that post after reading a really insightful post in the rules section abt not posting personal info - just in case). Ive been on TRT for about four years or so now. I understand what the medical community would advise and ive heard that a test only cycle is a good beginning point. Id really just like to have y’alls advice and experience. I often learn more from my pts (experience) than i have from my textbooks. There is a lot to be said about empirical data.

frankyfourfingerz's picture

200mg/week in divided doses my test levels consistently run between 700-800 on this with no sides

Halsey's picture

Np, like the wheel said, there is plenty of info on first test only cycles. If your body fat is high, work on getting it down first.

0newheelup's picture

Hey brother and welcome to the site.. we really need a little more info about urself and ur trt.. I'm guessing ur trt is doctor prescribed and not self prescribed.. Doc xr trt is monitored through bloodwork and if u blast and get caught by doc they will drop u. If ur self trt, u need to figure out a schedule of blood work times to make sure u blast and cruise safely..

1... Blasting and cruising is not trt and still needs to be monitored with bloodwork ..

2... First time cycle has been covered thoroughly and can be answered through a quick search here. I dont really want to cosign on this till we know more of ur trt history..

3... When ur blasting it puts ur system under a big stress. U have to give ur system time to rest once it balances back out. Once again u know this though blood test and experience. We can all guess at a time frame but the facts are in the blood, followed by how u feel..

Spend some time researching and pls keep on asking questions..

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Ty for the reply! I had a TBI back in 04, around 2012 I started having some issues went through a lot of appointments neuro, endo, etc you name it, the conclusion of all that was apparently as a result of the tbi i now have hypothyroidism and secondary hypoganadism, at the time i still wanted more children (i now have plenty lmao) so i stuck with synthroid and went through a few hondos a mo taking crap from GNC to boost testosterone. In 2017 I cracked and went back to the Dr and he repeated my labs and test was 160 even with all the supps and lots of squats (i was told squats boost test). He checks my labs every six months now since ive been stable and on same dose for so long, my only ever side effect is a borderline high Hct and Hgb. I try and give blood twice a year for this reason but as you know im sure we cycle our rbc every 4 months so its a crap shoot as to if this is doing anything or not.

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Awesome bro..+1.. glad u were able to get plenty of children and that uve been under a doctor's care. U sound like ur on top of ur bloods and doing real good now, so what is ur goal for running a cycle, and how is ur bodyfat?

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body fat is about 20 percent based on calipers (i want to the dexa scan but just haven’t gotten around to it), my main goal is to add strength tbh ive just been kinda stuck for a while and would like to lift a little heavier, of course a bigger chest and smaller waist would be great lol

0newheelup's picture

Calipers is fine, but the mirror is best at this stage. To get a better measurement of bodyfat from the calipers u can use this website.. Makwa turned me onto this.

http://www.weightrainer.net/skinfoldbf.html

Reading above sounds like u react well to test, but when u go to higher levels it's another animal. I would continue with ur diet and fine tune it till ur closer to 15% bf before experimenting with higher levels of test. Research bodyfat and cycles.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/scientific-proof-lower...

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frankyfourfingerz's picture

i really appreciate your input, the information you gave has been the best!

Halsey's picture

Dont pick favorites 4 finger deathpunch.