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MrKK's picture

get them from customs. Just ask for the stash of "appears to be steroids" Im sure they will point you in the right direction

Aussie_Lad's picture

dude, read a couple posts down from this and rethink your approach. lol.

aussietren's picture

hey all great site, already learned some things on training that Ive put into action and got results. The tren ace helped too but its nothing without good training

ozmusc's picture

Hi guys, Just been scammed by a guy in Perth!
PM for details if you need em, also looking for a new local guy, I'd really appreciate a PM if you think you can help.
Thanks

popanda's picture

hey guys was thinking about my next cycle. I primarily want to cut and just gain lean muscle. Am I able to do test 500 deca 400 pw for 10 weeks and then afterwards do test 500 tren e 400 per week for another 10 weeks? Or is this just overboard? i dont want to get bloat on deca so thinking of using anastrozole while on deca. will be using caber throughout tren. Will I need it during deca too?

aussiedan's picture

So take for example how popanda's cycle would be setup:

Weeks 1-8 RELOAD High volume workouts high protein (anywhere 1.5-2g/lb of lbm)
Test 500mg
Deca 400mg

Weeks 8-10 DELOAD Cut worksets in half and half protein replace with carbs/fats (1g/lb of lbm)
Test 250mg

Weeks 11-18 RELOAD(same concept as above)
Test 750mg (I would up the test dose, as ronnie would recommend)
Tren E 300-400mg

Weeks 19-20 DELOAD(same concept)
Test 250mg

Weeks 21-22/24
HCG 1500iu-2500iu eod
Arimidex 0.25mg eod (only if ran throughout)

Caber on hand and arimidex on hand.

popanda's picture

Definitely an awesome read. Thanks for the info.

aussiedan's picture

if ur thinking of running 20 weeks look into ronnie rowland slingshot training: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?402776-You-ll-want-to-read-this!

Slide's picture

that's hardcore!!

dudsy's picture

I had a quick read last night. Looks like an interesting program, even when not on. Are you using it Dan?

aussiedan's picture

yer mate. first cycle was what ronnie recommended.

Weeks 1-8 (Reload) 9-12sets high protein
Test E 500mg Week
Weeks 9-10 (Deload) 4-6sets cut protein in half
Test E 250mg Week
Weeks 11-18 Reload 9-12sets high protein
Test E 750mg Week (this is the concept of upping dose in 2nd 8 week cycle)
Weeks 18-20 Deload 4-6sets cut protein in half
Test E 250mg Week
Weeks 21-22 PCT
HCG 1500-2500iu eod

Now not that ronnie doesn't believe in AI's, he just simply believes if you are not prone to gyno or estrogen related side effects then why take another drug. And most people still believe HCG should not be used in PCT especially alone but I bounced back fine. However if an AI was used throughout the cycle then it MUST be used in PCT to stop a rebound effect, with aromasin being an exception..

Ronnie goes into much more detail after the first few pages.

dudsy's picture

What about the training side? Thread is very long and at times conflicted. His 1st link suggests 4/2 blast/cruise weeks. Then he changes it to 8/2. He 1st recommends in the link to the training thread doing something like 19 sets for back on the 4 day split. Then later in he says do no more than 12 per bodypart? Gets confusing.

Aussie_Lad's picture

Someone asks him a similar question on the thread, his answer was the 4/2 is old and the 8/2 is the new version, he has been getting reports from bodybuilders etc that the 8/2 works better. As far as i understood its no more than 12 sets during reloads and no more than 6 sets during deloads. He even lays out some examples of a chest day for deload and reload on that thread in the first 3 pages.

aussiedan's picture

yep correct! 8 weeks reload, 2 weeks deload. I found that 9-12 sets on reloads for major body parts works well for me and around 6 sets for smaller i.e. calves, traps, abs.
Any questions just ask me and ill do my best to clarify!

Aussie_Lad's picture

Whats your leg day looking like on a reload bro?

This is what im doing now. Im thinking keeping this workout and just cutting sets in half on a deload. Im open to suggestions. I was gonna add hack squat until i read that page, was gonna add it mainly for outer quad sweep but maybe its too much?? Whats good for outer quad sweep anyone?? Would lunges be better instead of leg extensions or is this gonna start tapping into hamstrings too much?

4 sets squats - quads, hamstrings, glutes
4 sets leg press - quads, hamstrings, glutes
4 sets Leg extension - quads
4 sets Lying leg curl or sldl - hamstrings
4 sets seated leg curl - hamstrings
5 sets standing calve raises
5 sets calve raises on leg press.

aussiedan's picture

My leg routine on reload is

3 sets of squats
3 sets of leg press 45degree
3 sets of leg ext
6 sets of leg curls
3 sets of standing calf raises
3 sets of seated calf raises

That exact routine was suggested to me by Ronnie once and i've stuck with it for a good year now.
I always concentrate on good form and constant tension. Anywhere from 6-10 reps for the most part.

Funny you asked because I just finished leg session today! And man it is hard to stand up after being seated for a while. Goddamn squats!! Haha

Aussie_Lad's picture

Thanks man, food for thought. I've been gauging how many sets etc i do by post training soreness. hit it pretty hard last week doing some extra squats, i guess i was having too much fun, end up sore for 3 days, pretty sure 2 days is optimal. Thanks again man.

dudsy's picture

He does recommend good form & constant tension a fair bit doesn't he? I was experimenting with this before i read this article seems like i was onto something. Wallabokkie started a thread about it here
http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/slo...

aussiedan's picture

thats a great post! wow wallabokkie didn't no he was an intelligent guy like that! ill hav listen to him more often..

Aussie_Lad's picture

yeah absolutely, everyone should know this, bouncing, momentum etc is just taking away from the muslce doing the work itself, people end up just going through the motions a lot of the time. You really want to think about the muscle and feel every inch of the contraction, i feel like telling half the fellas in my gym drop your weight down and slow down your reps, they would feel the pain! Fuck some guys have spotters helping for every singe rep!

Aussie_Lad's picture

Excellent read!, really enjoyed it, thanks mate.

aussiedan's picture

its up to 101 pages long now! and i have read through pretty much the whole thing! no shit took me like 3 weeks haha learnt a lot though..

Aussie_Lad's picture

ive read the first post, will read over the rest over the next little while.

grinder's picture

Hi Guys
Got a question for you all.
About an hour ago I did my very first (glute) injection to start my cycle. I tried to do it correctly as I have reseached i,e upper outside quadrant, 1 1/4 in 23g pin all the way in, pulled back to aspirate (no blood, good resistance) then slowly injected (1ml test E).
However, when I pulled out there was blood in the tip of the needle. I became very worried that I may have injected into a vein.
Is this normal or should I be concerned about this?
It was an hour ago now and I am feeling ok just a bit anxious.
Thanks in advance.
Grinder

Slide's picture

From what I have heard mate if you inject into a vein it will mess you up within a minute or 2. So if 5 minutes after a jab your still standing your fine..

MrKK's picture

Relax mate you will live. When you stab a wild pig and you pull the knife out, the knife is covered in blood. same concept only on a smaller scale.

MrKK's picture

Took my JK 4 door wrangler off raoding and used my warn winch attatchment to abseil down a 10 metre ledge and slammed down a solo in 3 secs. That is a fucking sport right there.

trainbrain's picture

Greco Roman Wrestling, Now that is a sport!
Nothing better then watching 2 gorillas in leotards and oiled up, hugging eachother and then fighting for the missionary position.
Poo V KK
who would win?

MrKK's picture

I win because poo forfeits, no one in there right mind will take me on. Then again the blokes on that much meds + the bipolar thing. Fuck it I forfeit, you dont want to be fucking around with a guy that takes 20ml test/deca in one day, 3 anaps, 12 eggs, 12 slices of toast and a range of meds to get his head right. On top of that the bloke has an arsehole ripping/seperating fetish! :(

Johnmatrix's picture

LOL crack up, poofinger does keep this lounge cranking

gcgeargold's picture

greco roman wrestling??? lol still sounds less homo than rugby

Johnmatrix's picture

Any of the bros here follow the rugby ?? All Blacks turn it on at Eden Park!! Aussies struggle past wales Smile

poofinger's picture

a real mans sport is russian roulette with a semi-auto pistol hahahahhahaha

"you go first though"

Aussie_Lad's picture

bahaha dude thats suicide, has to be a revolver to be considered sport.

poofinger's picture

Thats why i.said u go first!!!

poofinger's picture

thats why i said "you go first" hahaha

Aussie_Lad's picture

Lol true, whoever goes first definately loses. theres a recent movie about russian roulette called 13, was ok. Was better than gayfl or rugby thats for sure! haha

Goz's picture

Rugby? Psh... AFL is the only sport

trainbrain's picture

LOL I cant beleive you embarassed yourself like that dude

Aussie_Lad's picture

GAYFL

poofinger's picture

AFL??? RUGBY???

both a bunch of faggots who pat each other on the arse.... using sport to get away with homo-erotica.
And lets not forget the original "poofinger".... john hopoate.

GAY

wallabokkie's picture

That's actually league bro. They are a bunch of bowel prowlers as well

Goz's picture

Guys it is the number 1 sport in the number 1 country for a reason

wallabokkie's picture

AFL are you serious. Let's give everyone a point for missing the goal (left wing political game. Make everyone feel good about themselves). Then let's get the tightest shorts and run around aimlessly bumping into each other. Let's also talk about taking a dive you guys are getting as bad as soccer. Some walks past you within 5 meters and you fall over trying to get a penalty. Bunch of raving gay bar loiters.

poofinger's picture

They smack each other on the arse..... If you saw 2 bloke do that in a pub, youd vomit

Johnmatrix's picture

LOL 100% agree, watched a game of AFL once thought it was a joke. Yes im a kiwi but i also support the wallabies (believe it or not)

wallabokkie's picture

Yeah that's good. It's any southern hemisphere team over the north mate.

dudsy's picture

Aerial ping-pong? Come on really

wallabokkie's picture

Not too sure about struggling past wales. You are obviously a kiwi. I love my rugby but you can't compare wales and Ireland mate.

natedogaus's picture

yeh bro all backs definately turned it on...