posted Sun, 05/12/2024 - 09:40
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+ 5 The fall of a Nation
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80 years ago the US fought for what was right, we exposed crimes against humanity that people today have almost all but condemned until recently. Never would I have thought that today, in a time where education and information is open to all, that people would ever support something like that ever again, especially in mass. Yet here we are. We have people openly supporting terrorism, genocide, mass degeneracy while playing the moral superiority card. We have people so naive and uneducated that are willing to die for the people who would rather see them dead.
Does anyone believe we will grow out of this phase or is this Nation and many others around the world, doomed to fall?
What the hell happened here..
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AK80Too many people populating this world and depleting the resources! We could all get along, purple team if you will, but the left blue has other motives and intentions. I like to party sometimes and help people sometimes too, but you have to draw the line somewhere. Thank God November 5th the nightmare will be over.
Do you recall the 1960's ?
The Vietnam War , The Civil Rights movement , The Hippies and there ridiculous politics , and let us not forget the assassination of then US President John F Kennedy . The Cold War and the ever present threat of Nuclear Armageddon , Etc etc etc the List goes on .
History repeats it's self , Humans have a short term memory especially the population as a whole . For the most part an individual human is intelligent , but a group of people are dumb as fuck and love to pile on there dumb ass ideas and that is what these Progressives are doing .
Yes there is a very real threat of Marxism in the United States and they are setting up shop in the Educational system i.e the Ivy league and Universities . What we are seeing right now in America are just growing pains it's normal and will lead to a cultural , technological and spiritual revolution of some kind.
If the Ivy League schools are so liberal how do you explain the likes of Ted Cruz, several Supreme Court justices and many many more right wingers that came out of those very schools? Even our previous Republican presidents. Propaganda has never been easier and more pervasive than it is today.
Ted Cruz and the others you mention attended these schools in the early 90's , 80's and later .
Things have changes DRAMATICALLY at these Universities as anyone can see . They have become a toxic breading ground for Hatred and Marxism .
You go to school there? If you go back people have been saying this same shit for decades. Twenty years from now providing the sun doesn’t wipe us out someone just like you will be saying the same shit. And it’s always people that didn’t even go to a university lol
Sure I went to College 2 yrs for my RN and most of it was a waste of time seeing as how I didn't learn a Damn thing until the actual Clinical portion of the Schooling at the Hospital. Thank God the military paid for it or I'd be in dept up to my eyes .
I drank a lot , I fucked a lot and I learned nothing more than I learned in High school which is funny really seeing as how High School curriculum is Repetitive and Pointless beyond your Sophomore year. All of the prerequisite Classes are what makes getting a degree so time consuming . If they just focused on the actual Relevant material people could get a Bachelors degree in a Year flat maybe less.
It's a Scam , A cash grab , A waste of time to get a piece of paper telling people they are smart .
I don’t disagree with most of what you just said. But if I could see twenty years into the future I would bet anything we will still have right wing assholes that came out of ivy league schools. Keep in mind most of them are already rich
As a man who grew up farming, how do you feel about all the farmer protests that are happening world wide against the bill to reduce nitrogen emissions and other government regulations? Farmers across North America, Europe and India are trying to prioritize the importance of localized farming. I’m sorry to say this but these events have eerie similarities to the collectivization of farming in the Soviet Union. I don’t think I have to write a disclaimer to you because you know I do believe Nato and majority of world leaders are Fascist, not in the fascism that we’re used to which has nationalistic and racist elements but rather Corporate suppression of people. Corporations rule over the citizens world wide. Look at what Pay pal has done in the sense if you speak out in freedom of speech against the establishment, they fine you 5000k. Justin Treudeu seized people’s bank accounts who weren’t cooperating, mainly the truckers who were protesting against Gas prices. To me, that’s Fascism.
All the more reason the government shouldn't be paying student loans. Or subsidizing Anything more than a community college.
I agree but it would also be extremely hypocrites of me or any other business owner that excepted PPP or ERC money I honestly cannot believe more regular Americans aren’t losing there shit after our giving crazy money to us haves, and the vast majority of us didn’t need any help at all
Back then there wasn't as much division between the people as there was against the man. The hippies were actually pretty cool man, you dig? None of this crap protesters do today. Burkley protests for free speech were peaceful and everyone bent over backward to tolerate views contrary to their own. They were instrumental in ending the Vietnam war and the draft. And they advanced womans rights and racial integration.
Unfortunately, some of those hippies, like Bernie Sanders, took on a Socialist ideology and became the boomer academics and politician's which is now wrecking the country. Speaking as a Boomer, we got to get those boomers out of office and academia.
I always figured as much mis/disinformation as we have today with the internet, it was the same since the beginning of time. Whether it was TV from the 50’s on, radio before that, newspapers, shit go back to when they were chiseling shit into stone. There has always been people putting out lies for their benefit and people believing them. Always.
'Merica: "I get knocked down, but I get up again You are never gonna keep me down"
Talk of our nation failing is a bit premature. I love my country and will fight for it and have no problem with us supporting freedom in Ukraine. Although IMO we are total hypocrites when it comes to Israel. Geopolitical relations are never simple and for all the crying I see so many do you would be crying a lot more if you get your wish and we went full isolationist. Bless the USA!
Huge hypocrites. As if we didn’t retaliate in similar fashion when idiots were dumb enough to attack us on our own soil. I watched the street cam footage that was posted on YouTube of Hamas just gunning folks down. Israel can turn that place to glass for all I care. If you’re gonna retaliate, you do it with such ferocity that anyone thinks twice to do it again. Now if only the US didn’t impose ridiculous ROE that only serve to put our men and women in more danger and give the enemy the advantage…
And I agree Hamas started it and deserved to suffer but what did that have to with the north of the country? And I agree with hunting down and killing Hamas but we don’t go apeshit on killing civilians. Bibi I believe is on his last legs over this. But again, I am pro Ukraine and fairly detached on Israel. That battle over the holy land will never end and I am atheist
Absolutely will never end and we shouldn’t stick our nose in between it because of that. They have been trading blows since before these kids protesting at college were even sperm floating around. They are the equivalent of keyboard warriors. They’d never go down range and put some action behind all those strong words they seem to enjoy expressing over the whole Israel/Hamas thing.
The invasion of Ukraine was definitely more unprovoked.
Religion is used as nothing more than a reason to control or kill people. I may not be an atheist, but I’m anti all religions.
With Israel however we have given them more than 50 billion dollars since their creation. In my view that gives us reason to be at the table and say enough. But in the real world they have shown in the past they will stab us in the back. So I do not trust them
KonstantViktoryThat's what happens when you let festering malnourished slave genetics live off table scraps in the basement for slave and sex labor.
Not educated, but simply waiting for their next set of paragraphs to practice "setting up"
It's natural selection. Genocide is bound to happen.
Communism won
Bro, I have always believed you far wiser than this comment. We are a capitalist country, perhaps to a fault. There is no communism here, we do have some socialism but there are areas we could use more like health care for instance. But the rest of the crying I hear about gas prices, car prices, or just prices in general is not set by our government , it is primarily set by corporate America and market conditions (sometimes like with oil worldwide markets). But you can't have it both ways. Take carte bro
I should’ve put quotations around my statement as it was an actual quote referencing China’s fall in 1949 where political theorists theorized from China communist ideals will eventually spread world wide. I’m not debating wether we are a capitalist country because I feel crony corporate capitalism eventually leads to other economical scenarios once the scale is tilted too far as what happened in France, Russia, China etc and I do believe it will eventually happen here. But, for you to completely disregard what’s happening in colleges, schools and corporate by following certain social movements like critical theory, feminism, lgbtq, sexual education amongst grade schoolers, post modernism, moral relativism all originate in socialist philosophies all to destroy morality and family values. I can send you sources that aren’t right wing conspiracy but actual philosophical topics that have been in discussion throughout the centuries. From my understanding, college students aren’t proudly walking around with American flags but rather, majority find communism much more attractive. You know personally I didn’t vote for Trump and know me pretty well I wouldn’t vote for someone like him.
I know several college students since my kids are that age . And none of them are protesting or acting a fool. Are there fringe elements that are all about the things you posted? Absolutely. But they have always been there. Or at least since the late 60’s. The vast, vast majority are not that way. But like anything the loud mouths make the news. Now obviously geographically there are differences throughout the nation as well. You live in a metro area and see things that I don’t see in farm country. People in the south especially along the border see things we don’t see. Homelessness is another example. The south west has a huge problem and up here it is nearly non existent. Republicans in general are not fascist and democrats are not communists. We are Americans that are being wedged apart. The vast majority of my friends are registered republicans but I also have very liberal friends as well and I argue with both when they say crazy shit. And I do agree capitalism has serious flaws when it has been left fairly unchecked for over 100 years. But I am not saying we need to get rid of it. The Republican Party likes no regulation when it comes to business but lots of regulation when it comes to individual rights (with a few exceptions like guns) and democrats like capitalism but with regulations and are a little too free with individual rights. We need to coalesce around the middle instead of waving flags like this is a fucking team sport. It isn’t. But I see a cult of personality infecting and decaying our nation and I definitely have a problem with it.
Thanks for clarifying your statement bro.
No problem. I agree with everything you’ve stated. I think the fall of this nation goes far beyond politics and more towards inherent flaws of men in general which is why I’ve taken the task into reading more on stoicism or the book the abolition of man. Everyone wants to blame a boogeyman to blame but no one looks at themselves or within themselves to discover why we’re so drawn to electronics, social media ETC. I think the real like is that farm life you live to counteract all of these destructive trends being bestowed upon society today. Solitude and silence is the answer amongst chaos. Also, question for you. Do you foresee China eventually being more of a stable superpower in the near future or the US? You already know my answer and it has to do with the philosophical nature of the Chinese having Confucius philosophy with collectivism which in my opinion overrules whatever the fuck we are in the US
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One could easily argue China is already more stable than us but they are also far more repressed so it isn’t a fair comparison. Economy wise they are nowhere near as stable as we are but they have came a long ways. I think to try and predict much of the future in the chaos of the modern era is a fools errand imo.
The Chinese have a completely different ethos than us. And while Confucism (sp) is very popular in their beliefs I am not sure where communism fits into that
Its fine, everythings fine
Egg zackly
'WE ARE WE ARE - THE YOUTH OF A NATION!!' lol
I always have that being sung with a really high pitched voice when I play it in my head. Like church lady style almost. Not sure if I seen that somewhere or what.
In the main interlude of the track, POD have it sung by a bunch of kids so thats probably where you get that from Lol
I'm not totally black pilled here. I like to believe there is always hope for change. But i see things heading south far faster than any of the small wins for actual freedom we've got these days. I don't believe for a second that any of this is just coincidence. Those in charge are purposely destroying our country/the world.
The world is doomed. I am terrified to see what the world will be when my kids are young adults. It’s already fk’d now.
I already am seeing a shift back to the right. There are more adult voices now.
I see a shift to the middle where most of us really are. The right wing in this country and their basic acceptance of fascism is no better than the left wings leftist bullshit.
More clearly stated, I see a shift moving to the right... not the far right.
I do agree people are tired of rainbow shit and other similar examples, but even then most of us are fine with them having equal rights, just not more rights than the rest of us. America will never be perfect or everything for everyone but we still are one awesome fucking country where if you are willing to put your back into it and have a brain you can have a damn good life. And now I will salute the flag hanging off my porch
I look at my family, my neighborhood, my community. It's multi-cultural, multiracial, multidenominational, multi political views, and every color of the rainbow. A stark contrast to when I was growing up.
The biggest arguments we have is why the trash wasn't picked up on Tuesday and when is Bill down the street going to cut his lawn. Nothing like the divisive rhetoric I see from the left and right talking heads on TV.
The world got a lot more friendly when I turned off the news.
You ain’t lyin, I try telling my friends (and not to pick on Fox )but the Fox/Newsmax watchers generally believe the craziest stuff that if they shut that off they will amazed how much better they feel.
Agree with that for sure
I like your perspective on this matter. Thank you.
This administration has moved more people to the right, than any other administration I’ve ever seen.
Biden is probably the furthest right democrat we have had in the modern era, but if you watch fox news I understand why you think the way you do.
I'd agree, old biden back when he could still think and function was more moderate. But now he is a puppet and his administration is full of leftist and do as they wish. I'm far from a biden fan, to say it nicely. But biden from the 90s wouldn't be on board with half the stuff they are pushing now days. What Unc Yoked said, this administration and the left have moved further to the left, making everyone else in the middle look "right wing" in comparison
I am no Biden fan, but I do appreciate the things he has accomplished that really are helping the country. The infrastructure bill being the highest on that list. I do stand with Ukraine against russia but I also appreciate the fact that he hasn't had all kinds of turnover in key positions in his cabinet. Whether I like those individuals or not we have continuity in his cabinet. If you look back at how absolutely fucking insane trumps turnover was and how many damn good people ran like hell from him I would hope it would give any of you pause before voting for him again. General James Mathis , General John Kelly and those are just two of many. Biden should have stepped down after one term, but I believe in the Constitution and our separation of powers, I can never back a wannabe dictator , traitorous POS like DJT. We don't have a GOOD choice but I will gladly gamble on the clearly better of the two with Biden.
The beauty of democracy my friend. We certainly don't see eye to eye brother. Lol. I won't change your mind, you won't change mind. But you have your principles and I respect you. We both want the same thing, for the country to thrive, and for the hard working middle class who bust their ass to be able to have a good and decent life. Just may have different approaches to get there. And that's alright. At the end of the day, we are both brothers.
Very well said. We don’t have to see eye to eye on everything as long as we are willing to put our love of country up near the top of our priorities. This divisive talk only weakens us and believe it that our enemies love to see us fighting and our actively encouraging it
Bingo. Divide and conquer. In the day to day life, when you have real conversations with people, face to face, you'll see that most people get along just fine. And even the people you disagree with are still human and in general good people. We live in a weird time with social media giving us so much info every day it can't all be processed. And what is on social media isn't always real or the truth/full picture. It only exacerbates the decision in my opinion, and like you said, it's intentional
they actually just moved the line further left
Yeah man, I have to agree 100% with you. The “new normal” has changed again.