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So due to lack of faith,discouragement and what not I'll be taking a break from here for a while, my plan is to compete for the first time in 2025 no matter what and I want no distractions. No discouragement nothing except the focus to do what I know I can do. I've got a coach solid meal plan solid training plan, been saving up for a while to get thus going. I wanna say thank you to those who have helped me along the way, this community is very knowledgeable and looks out for each other. Too bad the big guy isn't here ATM but @Makwa thank you for your help from training and diet to compounds and doses. @Gorillakingz and @UncleYoked thank you for being stand up cool as shit funny sources and for hooking me up and taking care of what I need. @DeeMan @Rosschestzip always a pleasure chatting with you two. I may be back I may not we will see how life goes.

23Sparta's picture

I like that, about you and moms. That’s good brother, warms my heart. Idk about them kids though, I can only imagine what kind of grip it has on them. Just the way of the world now. I feel fortunate to have grown up without all of this. All I needed was a stick, a rock and my imagination. Just the fact that you know what’s right and do your best with them, will take you far

DeeMan's picture

Yeah it's totally different for us. These kids growing up are in trouble if they don't have a good foundation growing up. I remember older adults would say kids were bad and out of line back then when I was a kid. I can only imagine what those same Adults would say nowadays.

23Sparta's picture

Fuck yeah, that’s a great point. Man, what would they say? Whatever it is, I’m sure it’ll come with a belt or a wooden spoon

DeeMan's picture

Well that's the main issue..a lack of self control and no respect too

23Sparta's picture

Agreed, two things that don’t seem to hold any value anymore in society

DeeMan's picture

No value! They just can't help it. It's a norm.

23Sparta's picture

That’s why I roll in a wolfpack

DeeMan's picture

I feel sorry for those sheep!
Feast or famine!....I gotta eat!

23Sparta's picture

That’s right DeeMan, everybody’s eats, none of mine go home hungry

DeeMan's picture

Yessir....that's how it's gotta be. Not optional. Out of likes

23Sparta's picture

Yeah that’s why work hard to level up myself and everyone around me. Investing in others is the same as investing in yourself, as long as there’s loyalty. Got eight broke mother fuckers around you, guaranteed you’re the ninth. Got eight getting paid…. you know the rest

DeeMan's picture

I don't have to tell you this cause you already know but loyalty is rare these days. I remember hearing about this famous rapper that had a tight group of friends he thought were loyal. As soon as he went to jail for a few days,maybe a week, those same so called friends broke into the dude's house and stole everything from him...money, jewelry, TVs etc. Cold blooded animals.

23Sparta's picture

Yeah no doubt, every man for themselves. Always been those rats and now they just multiply. I’ve seen some treacherous ass shit in these streets, but for the most part have always been able to avoid it. I just got schooled right, stick to the code and do this shit with all your heart. That has served me well in the past and serves me well now. I’m breathing, I’m shining, and I’m a free bird. I can’t say that for 99% of the dirtbags that have crossed my path.

DeeMan's picture

Yea I'm sure you've seen alot kinda like myself. If ya know ya know! Nothing to brag about though. I've learned what not to do by seeing what's happening live. The streets have the ability to control you if you let it happen. Some guys never leave the streets and I consider those guys lucky because they could be in jail or even worse dead. It's just a mentality that some just can't break. It's not about being tuff, hell anyone nowadays can shoot someone or rob someone, no one fist fights anyone unfortunately so being tuff isn't those guys specifically lol. It's about being able to leave that environment and be successful and make something of yourself by legal route. Some guys go a lifetime not understanding and that's on them honestly. Can't blame not having a father figure when you already know the end result of that type of life. Yes having a father figure is important but Not having a father figure only excuses so much.
@23Sparta it's unfortunate man

23Sparta's picture

If you know, you know is right DeeMan. Everything you said, truth. Shit is unfortunately but, exactly, eventually as a grown man you have nowhere left to place the blame but yourself. So however you’re living, must be what you want, because that is what you chose

DeeMan's picture

Yessir...you better believe it

Chad P's picture

Whenever our family gets together at my mom and dad’s house she lets everyone know, if you’re gonna be on your phones don’t even show up.

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DeeMan's picture

I don't blame her one bit. I mean damn some folks can't go 5 minutes in a social setting without their phones. It's really pathetic man. Even in grocery stores folks walk into shelves because they aren't paying attention to their surroundings. I just saw that happen a few days ago while I was shopping

Rosschestzip's picture

I know man, I was like the last one to get a smart phone and it didn’t even make a difference cus that was still like 9 years ago, but I def don’t use social media like most people my age, but I’m still on my phone just as much but not being an instagram fiend

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press1's picture

Funny thing is though bud is we all think we just pop on here occasionally in the day, have a laugh with the lads and read a few posts and then do other things. But the reality is if you tot it all up we all spends quite a few hours on here everyday! I'm not complaining because obviously I really enjoy being on here otherwise I wouldn't do it - but you really would be amazed at the number of hours we talk on here when say 15 years ago that time would be spent cleaning the house or going round to visit others LOL Tbh though I love it - being able to log on in 10 seconds and at any moment in time be able to speak to many people all with the same interest and passion, to many others it may seem crazy holding conversations purely in written messages but you really do get use to it as if its normal. Amazing the way socialising and reality has changed. As with other social media such as FB etc its really very simple - don't get into it in the first place and then you will never have to deal with all the shit it brings into your life, that is of course unless you enjoy that kind of crap which I guess many of those people do.

23Sparta's picture

Eroids is addicting, same as any other social media. Our claim to fame though is higher cause, we’re here lifting ourselves up and others along with us. I’ll never regret spending time or energy for that purpose. We also shoot the shit and have fun, and get to meet great individuals whom we would have never crossed paths with before. You asked once Press how we killed time in prison, one of the ways is working out (which you do) and another is what you’re doing right now. Lmao you’d fit right in!

press1's picture

I still don't believe you have been in prison mate, nah. You are one of the nicest, upbeat, happiest, friendliest members I've ever known on here so how on earth did you end up in prison doing a number of years?! Some guys you can kind of see how it happened way back in time, but with you I just don't see it.

Rosschestzip's picture

It’s probably similar across the pond but there’s a lot of good dudes in prison. Well there probably not actually “good” lol in everyone else’s eyes. But you know what I mean. But the difference is, they good dudes when there locked up or when they’ve gotten there shit together, but a lot of those same guys turn into absolute scum bags when there in the street and tearing it up. But deep down they probably are a solid guy but once they have the drugs or drink or money or chicks or whatver it is, they just flip a switch and lose it.

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23Sparta's picture

lol, thanks Press, I know I laughed but I mean that. Anything I do man, good or bad, I’ve always done with all my heart. I just moved on from that lifestyle, it was making me sick in the head. I moved on and I have zero room for negativity and bad vibes. So if that’s what I want, I sure as hell better try my best to lead by example

Drexyl's picture

Exactly this

23Sparta's picture

I’m only on here and Reddit. I like to comment on the female bodybuilding sub lol. Other than that, I’m fucking with my finances, Researching, Chopping it up with my brothers

V0411's picture

I take no offense to everything that was said, think of it like eyes re opening,This isn't run and hide, this is keep my head out of my phone and things that distract me from spending my time doing what I need. Starting tomorrow I'll be gone for a few months BUT I'll be back with those pics to show everyone.

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23Sparta's picture

Hell yeah, respect that 100

SimonM84's picture

Do it man, good luck!!!

sandman3698's picture

Goodluck to ya. Hope you nail it in 2025!

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SimonM84's picture

I think this Is a little bit of an extreme reaction considering all the members were trying to help you. I don’t think anyone was trying to discourage you but assist you on realistic expectations for you to build upon. You know, you and I have had friendly discussions so please don’t take offense but I don’t think you should be running Deca. I wish Makwa were here right now but his posts have completely changed how I think of things and using his approaches which I’ve kind of always taken before even reading his posts have helped many members on this forum. From what I see, you can easily build on enhancing your foundation without those bulking compounds and it would be even more sustainable through the years. With a high body fat, you’ll increase your estro related sides and actually build less muscle as opposed to stripping down and building your foundation slowly. But, if your set on doing this than I wish you nothing but success and hope you prove all of us wrong so we can have more data on someone’s routine for a remarkable transformation.

Waltdisneysbum's picture

What'd I miss

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Nevermind I think I see what happened. - Just going to echo the point others here have said, we're all here to improve ourselves, share, learn, grow, we communicate and critique and give opinions. This forum should be used as a tool for you, not a distraction.
Sure you might hear or see something you don't like... But at the end of the day it's just words on a computer screen, it's not that deep.

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creatinehcl's picture

I don't see this or any forum as such a distraction that you have to leave to focus on anything. I didn't see that the guys made fun of you, and sometimes it's not bad to have someone who will tell you the truth. Normally in a humane and civilized way.
At the beginning of my journey with weights, I did mass mass mass because I wanted to be huge and I saw in the mirror for a couple of years what was simply not true. In the end, after a couple of years, I realized that I'm not even a B from bodybuilder, I'm simply fat. Steroids, force feeding and a lot of suffering and just plain fat. That's when I did my first definition and I've been looking like a bodybuilder ever since. Which was my goal. The point is that it would have been much easier for me if someone had told me the truth. I would get angry at that moment 100% because I worked hard for that look, but i would surely take it into account and maybe turn to the right path earlier.

DeeMan's picture

Thanks, I enjoyed chatting with you also man. I haven't been around due to being sick, working overtime and trying to take care of business affairs I set up, but I did hear about this and decided to log back on to see this post. Well I think you've been a good member and I see that you have big dreams. I read some of those comments about your physique and I'll just say this...I don't think any were meant to be negative or discourage you. I get it folks WILL hate but I didn't see that brother. Yes a few comments were blunt I agree. However whatever you decide I wish you the best and more importantly...I wish you safety. We all have dreams I get that. Just be safe bro while following your dreams.

bundlz's picture

My brother deeman the biggest mofo from across the pond

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DeeMan's picture

The toughest metal in the world isn't Tungsten, it's called bundlz.

Toughest dude from across he pond! They sure as hell don't make em like you anymore!
Glad to see ya around man. @bundlz

wanted's picture

I wouldnt leave. You should stay and prove everything wrong. Use it as ammo when choosing your diet and workout routine. Post up the reults with new pic.
Dont run & hide. STAY and fight.
You say you have a coach LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS. Goodluck in whatever you choose

V0411's picture

This isn't run and hide, this is keep my head out of my phone and things that distract me from spe di g my time doing what I need. Starting tomorrow I'll be gne for a bit BUT I'll be back with those pics to show everyone.

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DeeMan's picture

You love to see things don't ya? Lol

SeeOhShow's picture

Something my coach used to always say “If I’m not yelling at you, it means I’ve given up and don’t care anymore”

If we didn’t offer advice, criticism, whatever you wanna call it, then that’s a much worse place to be in than feeling like we’re being discouraging. The folks here were investing the time and effort into communicating to do the exact opposite. That’s showing faith and encouragement.

You were absolutely closer to 20% than 15% in your pic. Can you drop down to ~15% in 6 weeks and run a successful bulk? You sure as shit can.

Good luck on your journey and remember you don’t gotta do it alone if you don’t want to. You know where to find us.

press1's picture

I haven't been involved in any of whats been going on, but have just read through your gear cycle post you put up buddy. In all honesty the guys were just trying to help you, none of them were being particularly harsh there they were just giving you a reality check based on how your current physique looks as this is basically bodybuilding based talk so it goes purely on how you look. The cycle isn't particularly bad in terms of the Deca and Test, but I would have to say in your current condition as you are looking to cut then Deca is definitely not the right choice currently, masteron would of been much better. Superdrol is just a Big red flag mate, the stuff is poison and is in my eyes completely pointless unless you are in the final peaking phase of a powerlifting competition prep where you are really looking to bump your final numbers up where after that day they will more or less disappear again - no long term gains can be sustained that were built on that stuff. The IGF-1 and high HGH use are simply not required at this stage, I know it sounds cool to say you run Human Growth Hormone but to be using it at mass gaining levels you really should be at an advanced physique stage to warrant its use. There it is mate, all that is just advice based on how things are currently - its not knocking you in anyway or trying to knock you down and feel like shit buddy. If you post up a cycle plan layout together with pictures its effectively throwing it out there to the community to ask their opinion and advice on whether you are doing things correctly or not, sometimes you aren't always going to hear back exactly what you want to hear but you are in no way getting shit for it mate Smile From what I always see you are a good and helpful member of the community, and always have positive and good things to say, it would be a shame to see you go.

NWApatches's picture

Lack of faith and discouragement? Your gonna let men on the Internet take YOUR faith? Your gonna let them take your HEART? If anything it should put that fire up under your ass.

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laxman3221's picture

Good luck! Hope you do very well when you compete.

Gorillakingz's picture

Good luck and god bless brother