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Can you get huge on a test only cycle?

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I’m curious, if someone were to run a test only cycle with the sole goal of putting on as much mass and size as possible, would test alone be enough, or would you typically need to add other compounds?

Also, for someone starting a test only cycle specifically for gaining size, what would generally be considered a reasonable starting dose?

Dswoll1998's picture

Typically you’d want to maximize every pathway possible to growth. Only on test don’t expect miracles but a solid 5- 10 lbs of lean mass is do able as a newbie

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Pelon's picture

Depends how your body responds but more importantly the calories you're consuming

Luigi88's picture

One of my best cycle was 1750 mg weekly testo enanth and 1mg arimidex daily....great gains and strenght

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Bigliftsonly's picture

Just remember some people are blessed with genetics and are able to get really big and fast from steroids. Most common people use a lot of steroids and never get big, the only way to get big is years of training, diet and the basic aas’

press1's picture

EXACTLY Buddy - all to do with your starting genetics. Look at the Tren Twins for example - they were already blessed with great genetics and were actually benching 405 before they began gear - It only took mild cycles initially and they both blew up like monsters. Being short helps visually too but they are still both Big cunts like em or loathe them.

Scrawny-to-not's picture

Definitely, however I think it should be mentioned that how much you aromatize to e2 is a huge limiting factor for some, myself included. I have to eat AI and SERMs like tictacs at 400 test plus if I dont have primo, eq or mast in there to help with the e2. Its not quite as bad if im pretty lean (like 12% or less) but even then, just a gyno producing e2 machine.
The lucky dudes can take a buttload of test without sky high estrogen or side effects, I am jealous.

SeeOhShow's picture

Just fyi offseason cycles are typically just test/EQ or test/primo with GH and often something else we don’t mention here. At lower doses than prep cycles, which have a bunch more compounds thrown in for achieving a certain stage look. Reason being food is what really drives growth and recovery and not drugs. You don’t need as large of anabolic load to grow. During prep you’re in a deficit, so you raise anabolic load to offset the lack of recovery from food not being there. And it’s not just about shoveling in as much shitty fast food you can to reach calorie goals. There’s specific metabolic and nutrient partitioning reasons why the diet is high protein, high carb, low fat. Try getting 5500 calories at 275g protein, 70g fat, 940g carbs. You’ll find out real fast why diet is mentioned as the hardest part of the lifestyle.

testNtren1999's picture

man my maintence is 2100 and i average 9000 steps a day and lift 6 times a week how the fuck do i get the that high of calories

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BigCoachKen's picture

You need a second thing to grow, FOOD!!!

Test and calories and you can get great results.

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Spiderhead's picture

How massive of a surplus? Is it best to keep it low like 300-500 or better to do a massive surplus since I’ll be on cycle or will that just be adding too much unnecessary fat?

Spool's picture

Yes

Massa Ron's picture

Yes you can. A reasonable starting dose is a matter of opinion but 300 mg per week can get you very far on your first blast.

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UncleYoked's picture

absolutely. I've seen dudes get huge naturally.
Genetics, diet, determination and drive > Gear

randomdude's picture

Test is best.

Edit - to add to this you won’t grow if you’re not eating a shit ton of calories, lifting heavy, and sleeping.

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BertAK-47's picture

Yes you can. This lowest test dose possible is a forum/ instagram thing. Those guys don’t tell you to build that monster physique they were running a gram plus of testosterone. It’s a form of gatekeeping. You should be finding the high dose possible you can handle

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Steeltoad777's picture

The Biggest guys I know only run 2 cycles a year. 500mg of Test a week, twice a year.
Im an advocate for using the lowest dose possible to achieve what you want. Imho 350mg of test is the lowest Id recommend someone go. Between 350mg and 500mg a week is a good starting dose.
I dont like using AIs but definitely keep some on hand for an emergency.
Put more emphasis on food/calories if youre going for mass. Food is the best mass builder.

boldenone99's picture

The biggest guys what i know only run oxy/dbol and no test at all.--

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msten_ranger's picture

Easily. My first cycle was 600 test e. Gained roughly 40 lbs over 20 weeks. Over the last ~18 years I’ve pretty much just blasted and cruised with test. What I’ve learned over the years is test is way easier to manage then throwing other compounds in there. Also 99% of the time when dudes ask me what else they can take the answer is always just to increase the test. Nandrolone, possible prolactin issues, tren, be in a good head space or get rdy to nuke your relationships. Eq/primo, you better know how to control estrogen or prepare for low e symptoms. You can get massive off a couple medium to high test cycles and it’s pretty easy to manage

Spiderhead's picture

Thank you for the response brother, I really appreciate everything you said. Thoughts on throwing in AI?

JohnnyHardGuy's picture

My man, nobody just "throws in" an AI.
Ai is used only when you have cranked the test too high (for you) and now have to mitigate overwhelming estrogen conversion.
Hopefully you start low and slow w the test and never have to need to worry about estrogen control.
Its all boils down to how you handle particular compounds. Some take a gram a test a week and dont need any AI while some take miniscule TRT doses and their estrogen goes crazy.
Now if you are concerned, you may want to have AI on hand in case anything goes awry. If it does it is better to have something on standby then to wait to get some.

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Spiderhead's picture

Appreciate the feedback and knowledge brother, good to know. I’ve been on TRT for a little over year so I figure the best approach would just be blast and cruise.