Saved from addiction by the grace of GOD.
Ive struggled all my life with drug and alcohol addiction. It wasnt until i humbled my self enough to listen to those around me instead of getting defensive and attacking people back that i realized that i had a true problem. I woke up one morning ang realized i wasnt a father at all by deffinition and no being a sperm donor doesnt make u a dad. My parents were doing everything for my kid while i was busy feed my crack/coke and booze habbit. It was time to change. I was at a party last 4th and drinkin heavily. Last thing i remeber i was at the pool with my brother and had 2 40s duct tapped to my hands (i was playing edward 40 hands). Next thing i know i was waking up 3 days later in the icu wondering what happened and who did i kill. Scarry. I was humbled and really embarrased by this experiance and never wanted to be in those shoes again. I got into aa/na started going to church and talking to god. If it wasnt for that night a the good lord bein in my corner i probably would be dead now. Be humble. Its a mirror in itself humbleness led to cleanliness and that led me to godliness. Now i can happily say im a year clean and sober and going strong plus my relationship with my son has never been better. Thanks all goes to god and jesus i couldnt have done it with out them. God is great and so is life all because i got humble.Remember guys without god you are nothing but without you god will always be everything. Be eveything not nothing. Just you plus god equals an undefeatable army of 1.God bless youguys and happy juicing.
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AnonI think its great you have kicked the alcohol coke and crack habit, also realizing the level of participation it takes to be a dad. However I am a little concerned about the "happy juicing " . Not because I believe juicing is wrong , but anything can be unhealthy mentally and physically becomes to strong a presence in your life. I actually believe this about Jesus and God too. If you want to believe that stuff thats fine , but please try to refrain from preaching. Now back to the juicing concern , you seem to have the ability to go overboard with a good thing. I think alcohol can be a good thing, and even coke too as long as you are strong enough to control it. Anyway now youve moved on to weights and steroids ,a truly great thing in your life , well it will be as long as you control that too . See thats why I mention the preaching earlier, because it too sparks a concern in me that something (all be it a good thing for you ) is again taking center stage in your mind and life . You see how I could be concerned that you really havent moved forward much, this could be more of a lateral move ? And if this is all "gods" handywork and will , then you can start to justify almost anything . Just stay fit, stay healthy and balanced, and participate in the lives of the children you chose to have and Im sure you will be just fine, if not great.
Ok bro lets start by saying i havent preached in any way shape or form this was my success story of how i got clean and im sorry if u took it that way. I will say god and jesus always have been and always will be the center of MY life no ones expecting u make them your especially me thats between you and YOUR god if u believe in one if not thats fine too im not here to judge. Thats gods job. The happy juicing remark was me being half a smart ass to all on the site we are all juicers here. Ive been as big as 220 before with out it and so i dont need it but im gonna use it for a few months till im back at my goal weight so it doesnt take me 2 years to get it back since im a hard gainer then im off. To be perfectly honest i dont even like juice. Im broke out all over like im 12 again not to mention the other side effects plus i have heart problems and dont want to make it worse from long time aas usage. I cant wait to be at 225 so i can get off. On a side note people attacking me and my religion will not be stood for. I wont suffer rightious indignation with out defending my self and i have done so with respect to the non believers who turn my thread into a bullshit religious debate. Im actually regreting even starting this thread. Matter of fact can someone tell me how to delete it!!!! If i cant im probably just gonna turn off the coment notification and stay out. U and ed are fuckin hilarious though i lmao at ur banter. I hope i dont offend by anything ive said thou i probably will cuz i never come off right in text. All bs aside i love you guys like family even thou ive never met you and wish u all the best and thank you very much for your kind words and again im sorry if i came off preachy, sanctimonious or hollier than thow. I was just trying to open a line of com with fellow addicts. Have a blessed day and happy juicing lol jk.
AnonNaw man, no harm no fowl . I simply want you to recognize that adiction comes in many forms, and it simply means when you arent balancing that thing. So you see how kicking coke to be a crazy juice head isnt really working forward, you see how quitting crack to be a bible thumper isnt really a move forward. The move forward comes when you can add things you enjoy and love, but keep them in balance.
Yes sir i sure will. I feel like im doing good on that front (keeping a good balance). God family work kids school friends stc. I can finaly go to the bar with a group of friends and have some cokes and nachos and laugh watching everyone else get fucked up. Then i take keys and get everyone home safe. Or be at a party where folks are doing drugs and not get into using myself. If i start feeling the urge its nice cuz i can say a quick silent prayer and im good to go. I dont mean to come off as a bible thumper, its just i tried so many times to get clean before and nothing worked till i started using my faith then i was finanlly able to get and stay clean. Thats probably why with this subject theres a heavy emphasis on god. Thanks for the kind words and thanks for listening my man and i will be sure to keep shit in check. Every things better in moderation. Have a blessed day bro.
Novi, this is no different that you making Obama your personal Lord and savior. He has become the center of your life the same way. The only difference is Jesus is good and Obama is the crappiest president of all time with shitty intentions,the spending habits of Paris Hilton, hates America, and brings the leadership skills of a Burger King crew chief to the table. Oh yeah, and uses the IRS to support his tyrannical leadership along with the NSA to watch me take a shit every morning through the lens of my Verizon cell phone. :). But that's a different subject all together.
On a side note, I do agree with you that "happy juicing" can be a worry. Very good point.
All my love, no homo
Ed
I agree with u about obama to bad lee harvey oswald isnt still around if you catch my drift. Also just to reiterate that was a smart ass comment meant to be funny i like making people laugh but as usual i didnt come off right in text. Sorry for that i truely am. Take it easy bro good god damn post.
AnonEd engaging with you in the forum reminds me of when I was trying to get my wife pregnant by screwing a hooker.
Lol. Sorry. You know I'm just trolling you a bit. Its a struggle for me to make compliment without an insult. It's kind of my built in no homo. :).
I've got nothing but no homo love for ya novi. You know that.
AnonSee again you just take me the wrong way. I meant the above as a compliment , and nothing but a sincere compliment. Do you actually realize how much effort I put in to trying to get my wife pregnant by screwing Tiffany ? I put my heart and soul in to that mission, and just because I failed that doesnt mean my efforts were in vain. ED you always make me want to try hard and get hard, not to mention contact Tiffany. Some men just inspire greatness
Lol. Sorry bro. I killed Tiff, just last week. You know I got this little hooker killing thing going on.
AnonYou FUCK !! You saw something I loved and you just had to take it from me ! You Fuck you Fuck .
When will your sick game of following me and torturing me end ? You are still so spitefull about that one dinner at Marios spaghetti hut.
This is how it all went down....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG2zgnClKOI
I'm sorry. I was just trying to keep George from getting mad.
Dude that shits crazy...did he break her neck its hard to see on my phone. Ive never seen the movie but i will say i love john malcovich.
Read the book first. It's called:of mice and men by John Stienbeck. Excellent easy read.
Yes, he broke her neck.
Ill get it this weekend im gonna buy buy cloud atlas too. Thats a crazy fuckin movie too. Tom hanks and Hallie Berry are awesome. I love the wachowski brothers movies they ade scifi genere benders.
"Now theres an ending that flat and inane beyond belief"
AnonEd quit wasting your time, I know damn well you have given out your 15 aloted copies this month.
Stop trying to rewrite history and make Lenny the hero.
All he wanted to do was pet the pretty soft thing! What was wrong with that? Lenny didn't juice. Juice did Lenny.
Rotflmao.
AnonOkay I made a drive-by post and have learned something really interesting. People preaching of kindness and turning the other cheek are actually the ones doin the name calling. I'll leave it to you now, ha ha
The only ones preaching and name calling are the non believers read the thread again dude.
Who's preaching kindness and calling names? Haven't seen that combination yet? I saw J223 call you imbecilic, but don't remember him preaching kindness.
I quoted Scripture about kindness but didn't call you names. I called your quoting scripture out of context ingnorant because well it was.
Let me share with you the definition of ignorant: Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular:
You fit the bill with your Lack of knowledge of the scripture quoted, didn't have the information or awareness of that something in particular. So no, it wasn't name calling it was fact stating.
Am I wrong? Come back into the kitchen brother. I know you ducked out because it was getting hot but by all means lets discuss this.
People came down on you because this gentleman told a nice story. Instead of encouraging this guy to continue to stay off drugs and looking at the positive aspect of the story, you took the chance to jump on your soap box and try to discredit him because it didn't align with your beliefs. Is that not the very thing that you are fighting? Forcing ones beliefs on another? Come on bro. Sounds a little hypocritical to me.
so back to the preaching kindness and calling names combo... Please help me not be ignorant on the subject.
I agree here too i didnt name call either when i said ol dude made himself sound like a fuckin idiot it was a statement of truth not name calling.
Quick edit. This isnt meant to be about religion its a story to help those fighting the same fight and to show that u can reach the light at the end of the tunnel no matter how big the hurdle. I was simply refrencing that for me MY GODS grace is what got me there. if for you its elvis aliens or even harry fuckin potter please feel free to share with me id love to listen to the story. Im also really excited that in about 3 weeks (the 4th of july) will be a year clean and sober and i plan on picking up my 1 year bday chip
Thanks for sharing and better still listening.
Thanks for sharing bro. +1
Thank you also. And your very welcome.
AnonSome things that jesus supposedly said.
“But these enemies of mine who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here, and slay them before me.” (Luke 19:27)
Seriously bro, you should read the whole chapter before quoting anything out of the bible. You sound ignorant.
Read the whole chapter, don't take it out of context and you'll see that Jesus was telling a parable.
A pretty good one too.
Let me help you out with Jesus' position on the matter. He was pretty cut and dry about the matter.
Luke 6:27-32, 35
"But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.
Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
But love ye your enemies , and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil."
I thought that was pretty profound..."He is kind to the unthankful."
Come on bro. This guy has a nice story of overcoming some pretty big obstacles. I don't think disrespecting his beliefs because they don't align with yours is very classy, especially in this situation.
AnonI didn't see it as anyone disrespecting anyone's beliefs, as a matter of fact it would seem that you are disrespecting mine if I don't agree with it. Did the OP post in hopes that everyone was going to fall into place? I have heard the mods say before everyone has the right to post and I sure didn't call anyone "ignorant" It would seem that you were the one who attacked me?
I have an invisible car I want to sell you bro and if you dont want it, I will ask you again tomorrow and then the next day and the next day and everyday for the rest of your life. A freaking earthquake happens in japan and kills thousand and they pull a baby out of the mud and its a miracle! I ain't buying it.
if this is how you view things in life, you are incredibly imbecilic.
AnonYeah and you have bad eyes. And "embicilec" it would seem you christards. Are quite handy with the name calling. It's like you just want to tell other people how to live and then not live up to your religion. So much for turning the other cheek huh embicile? I'm out because I'm not going to take a flogging from several people at a time.
Thats a great post so many take a verse and run with it instead reading and understanding it fully. Thanks for goin to bat for me here its much appreciated.
I will say though i dont feel disrespected at all it just his point of view and hes entitled to it just like every other man in the world. I will also say im sadened by the fact this forum has turned into a religious debate now. What if a non believer addict comes here looking for fellowship and help from someone who cleared the hurdle theyre having trouble getting over. Instead of having a chat with someone that could possible help they will probably leave without saying a word to anyone just to avoid the debate. Which is sad cuz i started this to help not to hate. And fyi bro those last few statements are not aimed at you or anyone else in any way its just my heart talking. Good post my man
This is a great story of overcoming and very inspiring. Congratulations to you!
Thanks man it was a struggle still is sometimes.
I imagine it is brother, I understand what it is to struggle in other ways but where would the glory be if it was easy
Hit the nail on the head there my man and thank you for your kind words and support.
Captain DickMcL...here we go again..
Lol i know right. This was a story of over coming addiction not my tring to be a sanctimonious ass and force my belief in god on anyone. Anyone whos been to aa na know of the importance the program places on believing in SOMETHING greater than YOURSELF. For me thats god and jesus. I camt stand the fact that non believers want to take away from my trying to inspire and help fellow addicts just to bash my beliefs and turn this forum into a religous debate. Well i for one choose not to participate in that. Thanks bro and god bless.
Captain DickMcL...every one is entitled to believe whatever they want.. no reason to for this
If everyones entitled to their own opinion why am i being bash for mine? Sounds pretty fuck hipicritical to me. Im off to bed got a 12 work day tomorrow. Good nite eroids.
good night
Thanks man first person in a while not to come on the post and talk shit. Can u tell me how to delete this thing im fuckin tired of all these guys bs. Thanks.
I agree like i said religious debate its not why it was posted. That being said if my faith helping me to get and stay clean bothers you stay out of the forum. No ones making anyone come in here. Funny though assholes always gotta try to knock down whats good and replace it with shit. They are probably just jealous cuz i was able to accomplish something they never could. And probaby cuz they are to self absorbed to try. These are the ones that leave theyre kids in the car so they can go into the bar and drink. But no judgement here just a world observation.
AnonI have to agree with 7gothic and mwagner630.
I'm still wondering why Christianity needed so many crusades? Believe in christ or die! I suppose if someone was going to kill my whole family I would have to say Hell Yeah, I'm a Christian! Funny... at the revivals they still call them crusades.
Christianity has highjacked more than one religion after they killed a shit load of pagans they finally agreed to let the pagans keep some of their religion. Where did the christmas tree come from? Pagans! where did the easter bunny and colored eggs come from? Pagans! Where was the jesus fish stolen from? pagans used it to represent fertility or, more specifically, the female reproductive organs.doesnt it look like a vagina?
Sorry bro, you cant post something and expect everyone to agree with you
I dont expect anyone to agree with my beliefs what i expect is people to understand that no matter what your situation is there always a way out. U really shouldnt post u really do make ur self look bad with comments like that.
Bro, I think that you are confused on the matter. True Christianity didn't teach to kill enemies. You are talking about corrupt sects of Christianity.
The complete falling away from Christianity is prophesied throughout the bible.
Anonokay, when you mention true Christianity are you only pertaining to the new testament? I have noticed in this debate that the fundamentalists currently shy away from the old testament until there is something they can use then they borrow from it. If you got this rolling lets see it though rationally without the name calling. I made a simple drive-by post and you called me on it.
I find it comical that Abraham is responsible for 3 religions that loathe one another but all have the same god
1) Christianity / protestantism
2) Judaism
3) Islam
Maybe you can enlighten me as to the one true religion and maybe I will convert today. Or do we just pick one?
Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion--several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn't straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother's path to happiness and heaven....
Mark Twain
Wow again u sound like an idiot i can preach the whole new testament from the old and true christians jews and muslims dont loath eachother they love eachother your talking about fuckin idiot radicals. Much like ur self . Please stay off my post like mom used to say dont have something nice to say dont say it al all.
No. When I mention Christianity, I am not only "pertaining to the new testament". I believe the cannot contradict each other.
As far as your personal comedies, well just so you know, I'm a Christian, I don't Loath Jews or Muslims.
This is where your problem lies brother. Its the lumping everyone into a collective group. There are Shithead Christians, there are shithead Jews, and there are Shithead Muslims. However, there are Good Christians, Good Jews, and I'm sure there has to be a good Muslim somewhere....
As far as enlightening you to the true religion... Well, I'm not going to take that upon myself. That's up to you brother. I can only encourage you to find what makes you the most happy. Weather that be atheism, Wicca, or Killing hookers. That's your thing. And when you find whatever you find to be true religion, if it makes you happy, share it with respect while respecting that others may see it differently, all while encouraging the positive behavior.
As far as your Mark Twain quote, well brother he is a good writer but by no means would I consider him an authority on who or what is a religious animal. You'll need a true authority on that matter and the only one I know that could figure that out is Dr. Doolittle.
I love this post and yes my man there are good muslims. Obama bin laden isnt one of them for sure. hes the biggest fuckin idiot of em all. Only 3 more years of ignorance left.
The christmas tree comes from the verse where it states im like an evergreen fir tree. If you research jesus was born on sept 26 and concieved on the 25 we have christmas on the 25 because it coincided with the pagan new year holliday. Easter coincided with passover and the fish come from a roman anagram that in ancient greek mean jesus christ son of god savior the fish was a secret symbol used by christians to hold gathering so the pagans didnt know back when the pagans were killing christians the crucades were started to take back land the muslims stole from the jews and darwin is was and always will be just a theroy look around where is eveolution in the world today. There is none because it doesnt exist. Darwin worte that book because he was mad at god for taking his daughter. Even darwin said on his death bed he didnt believe in his own book and he regreted writing it cuz the damage it would inflict upon humanity. These are hard facts and not my opinion.
You should do u homework before u open your mouth u made yourself look like a fuckin idiot just now bro.
But its all good like jesus and god i still love you. God bless you.