posted Sun, 11/18/2012 - 15:08
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im planningmy first cycle as a TEST-E and DBOL,TBOL, or someother kickstarter?? i have done a 5 week oral designer steroid, during the summer and finnished it up with 4 weeks of nolva. The compound was "methyl clostebol" and was an active steroid and did not need any conversion like a Prohormone..(ORAL only cycles make it difficult to keep the gains) lol.. so i have had slight experience with a hormonal product and feel that i will not be satisfied off a test-e only cycle and feel that adding a kickstarter will add greater size and strenght gains. input is appreciated (especially from experienced members)
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im thinking of adding HCG in the cycle to help reduce shutdown and make recovery faster? i dont want my test levels to be perminantly lower
Compared to m-clostebol, A pure test only cycle will blow your fucking mind. It's the real deal. I know it's hard to have a little patience but, when the test kicks in, you will fucking feel it, and fucking be in the gym hammering the shit outta some weight.
Don't underestimate the power of testosterone. You will feel satisfied on test only.
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If your diet and training is on point then test is all you need for a first cycle to get awesome results. not many compounds melt the fat away and build muscle at the same time like test. keep it simple and you will be happy.
PIC is up..go under community, pictures, then self shots..
Look bro, there is a reason why 1 compound at a time is recommended... More than anything you will know how your body reacts to that compound. On your proposed cycle running test-e and dbol. If you flare w/ gyno how will you know which compound caused this, thus giving you the knowledge of which compound to avoid in future cycles...
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/to-the-guys-that-wana-g...
http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/the...
that all i have to say
I think you're attitude here shows why you are not old enough to even be running gear. Show some respect or your zero karma is likely to start visiting negative numbers.
ahhh i knew this would be negged just by looking at the title. lol.
dude i know exactly which supplement you used. "mechabol". now i cant say it is weak shit, cause i have never used it myself. it may very well be a good oral. but i can tell you there is a reason why script is required for test injections. try it on its own.
"Don't reinvent the wheel." hllwdbdboy
yeppp mechabol, wasnt sure if i was aloud to say it, trying my hardest no to go negative by being negged..id rather be "bolin then drolin" .. yes mechabol is def not as strong as test-e..yeah im going to run test solo.. thanks for not ripping me apart lol
Why are you paraphrasing Marylin Monroe? It's not even original. Sorry to bust your balls bud but you seem very young mentally to be doing this and need to do a lot of research. You may have already screwed your body up on the oral cycles without any blood test you don't know. You should not be bloating or swelling up on an ideal cycle and you shouldn't be touching multiple compounds without experience. The reason we do test only cycles to start with and by the way periodically is to establish and reestablish a base line. With proper labs you know how your body reacts to different compounds and nolvadex alone is not a proper PCT. Do some homework and try to get to 200 naturally before touching gear. Not that I expect you to listen to that but its worth a shot.
when did i paraphrase Marylin Monroe??? and dude u said u have done over 20 cycles and have been lifting for over 20 years in your profile.. and your only a 186lbs get the fuck outa here..one test-e cycle and i would/will dwarf u!! i didnt say i was bloated as fuck and holding 20lbs of water..i was holding 5lbs of water at the max and looked a little puffy in the face. not a big moon face or anything
HAHAHAHAH.... I LOVE AND THRIVE ON COMPETITION MY MAN!... GET SOME PICS UP LETS ME AND YOU HAVE A FKN POSEDOWN THAT SHOULD KEEP YOU MOTIVATED WHEN THIS OLD MAN BLOWS YOUR FKN ASS OFF THE INTERNET... DONT POKE AT OTHER MEMBERS POKE AT ME, I AM READY NOW.. YOU GET YOUR CYCLE DONE THEN COME BACK FOR A SHOWDOWN
This is your competition..... nothing to hide my man!
http://www.eroids.com/pics/8-weeks-away-from-52nd-birthday-practising-wh...
I will post up some before pics tonight and them.afyer cycle i will upload more
Bro. You are kind of a boner sniff. You should just say that you are sorry and walk away. Vikes weiner is bigger than both of your arms.
really? lets see some photos then big boy. who are you to knock someone else here? learn some manners
I saw in one of your responses that you have some type of expectation of weight gain, that will come from your diet. If you eat likeeveryone else around you, you probably won't gain much at all. At your age your natty test levels should still be very high. If weight is your end goal, just start ramping up your feeding frequency with good lean meats, take bcaa's, protein and healthy fats. Combine that with heavy training and at your age you don't even need anabolics bro.
Start slow the, "I want results now," mentality will set you up to fail in the long run.
yeah i understand i have plenty of time to gain more experience and do a kickstart cycle in the future. thanks
You are damn straight everyone who is knowledgable knocks a cycle with more than one compound to start off. So tell me, how does your body respond to test e? what sides do you get? how well does the dosage you have chosen work for you? what sides do you experience with Dbol? and or TBol? what compound do you decrease or increase based on side effects? which one do you drop completely? what do you take should you experience nasty nasty sides? unless you have experience and know how your body reacts to each compound seperately your cycles will be a mish mash hodge podge of wasted time, money and gear. You need to know how you respond to test only, adding in compounds one at a time. You also need to understand the laws of diminishing returns. the more you start with the more you will have to use later on. simpler is better, you still get great results and quite frankly the gear is just one tool in an arsenal of tools to help you make improvements and gains. With out proper training diet and rest you might as well use your hard earned cash to wipe your ass as that will all that it will be good for.
i suggested t-bol because i have taken something very close to it before. I took methyl clostebol, which is slighly less anabolic and slighly more androgenic in its A:A ratio and its effects are almost identical except clostebol is a little wetter. Sides should be they same if not worse on the stuff i took. Increase? the only thing that would need to be increased is the ADEX which still wouldnt make sense since tbol does not aromotize! so really the only thing i will have to worry about is the test. its not fucking rocket science here. and if something goes wrong i can just come on here and bitch about needing help asap like some of these fucking morons on here (jk) ..but hey, thanks for the info
You do realize grrrl competes, gives top knowledge info, and dhe helped build this site!!!! Check your ego jr -1
no i had no clue. im fine. i just answered a few of his questions and gave him so info about me and what i took, so he had a better understanding. i even told him thanks for the info cause i will be doing a simple test-e cycle..check me ego -1? lulzzz haters gona hate
FYI he is actually a she and she is corrct, run a test only cycle. After all whats the rush? im sure you aint getting your pro card anytime soon, be smart and get to know your body before you mess it all up.
Test-e only it is then
The guys below stated real stuff for ya. Simple still adds raw beef and less sides.
ok, i appreciate the info and have some planning to do
what kinda gains can one expect on a test-e bulk cycle? around 20lbs up on with the water and around 12-15lbs after pct?
It goes way beyond your test and pct. Training and diet. Are key before,during, and after cycle. Can and will make or break you
yes very true..and if u dnt mind.what was ur first cycle?
Test e 500mg split mon-thur. .25mg adex eod starting week 3
I ran it for 12 weeks. With clomid and nolva for pct
im 23, 178lbs, 5,11.. i mean at my heavyest on the oral i was 184. i gained around 13lbs on the oral alone and kept a good amount of it..was a bit wet and bloated my face tho.. Test-e only, the gaines will be late on in the cycle and not much during the first few weeks. id just like to get the most outa my first real cycle, u know?
The problem is more is not always better. You seem to think that. And if your to impatient to wait a few weeks for you test to kick in. Then your not ready mentally to even touch the stuff. Your gonna end up hurting yourself in the long run. Do yourself a favor and take our advise.
You may not like what other people said on your other thread. But its only to put you on the right path. Which is one new compound at a time. Your highly underestimating a test only cycle especially since you haven't done one yet. Not to mention if you have a bad reaction you won't know which compound is giving the issue. And by what I read in your other thread. You need a few more years amd a lot more research.
i here yea.. i said prohormone and i actually ment designer steroid in the other post tho.. and its much like oral turnibol except not as anabolic and slighly more androgenic. i mean im not a complete newd to Drolin
biggerthanyouWhats the rush? Slow ur roll my friend you have time for a test only cycle before you kickstart a cycle
You dont even know what test will do for you, how would you know you would not be satisfied with test only.
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whats your stats and goals? you would be suprised how hard that first test e only cycle will hhit you..amazing.
Agreed, I'm currently on a Dbol kicked Test E cycle. I'm going into my 5th week and I am feeling the effects of the Test E. It's amazing and to be honest i wish I would have never done the Dbol kicker. I've added so much water weight so quick it's miserable. I really liked the instant strength gains, but they are dirty dirty gains.
exactly!