week 7 test-e only..no significant gains!?!?
im the end of week 7 of a 12 week test-e 600mg/week cycle..i have gained about 15lbs lmao..before u say im expecting a miracle..the weight i have gained is mostly food,bloated stomach,a little water and some fat..this is my first pinning cycle but i have had more gains in 4 weeks on mechabol(weak designer steroid)..WELL MY QUESTION IS THAT IF IT DOESNT "KICK" THIS WEEK 8, SHOULD I THROW ANADROL IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS SO I CAN HAVE SOME NOTICAEBLE GAINS IN STRENGTH AND SIZE? thoughts on the cycle or advice from ur passed test-e only cycle..i have noticed(more vasularity,and i had a sick pump a few weeks ago but it has went away and my workouts r very good but no crazy skin tearing pumps like i had. also i can not get sore, even if i overtrain!!??
THANKS for advice and experiences
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Some dudes just don't respond to the juice as well as others. I know how you feel... I saw no significant changes running test e for 13 weeks at 500mg/week. :/
Wk 8 was when I started getting results. No joke just hold on.
I hope it kicks dude
I had Pharma grade and I felt the exact same way. "is it fake? What should it feel like?". The way I realized it was working were peoples comments. I look in the mirror too much so I don't see drastic changes like friends do. Week 8 was my spot. May be yours to. Run it 12-14wks
I'm coming to the end of week 8 and I bought 3 10ml vials (enough for 15 weeks) but somehow they seemaround 9-9.5ml :/ if iI have enough aand some actual Gaines I will do 13weeks
RustyhookerPrivatemedlab.com $59 and no insurance needed. Plus won't jeopardize health indurance.
Yeah I no..I don't think I can in my state tho
AnonI feel like I have addressed this issue a million times, yes you can. Dont you have a friend in a neighboring state ? Create an account using his address, order your lab work, and then go to your nearest collection center. Ive dont this it works just fine.
SO what was blood results?
Didn't get blood work yet..I have to go to my doctor and he's gonna give me shit for being on but I'm gunna make an appointment soon
aromasin 12.5mg ed ouch bro my joints are killin me already...
Week 7 of top sources test E at 600mg and not gaining much weight...
15 lbs is probably all water weight. Test will do that.
I think your diet is really holding you back. You need to stop worrying about the gear "kick in" and focus on eating. Steroids don't build muscle for you. All they do is increase protein synthesis. YOU NEED protein for protein synthesis to happen.
EAT MORE FATS AND CARBS. Carbs will fuel your body during a workout and fats are very calorie dense. You also need high protein to actually build muscle. Fix your diet that is your problem
Good advice.. I had the same thing happen to me as this guy. I changed up my diet to more carbs and fat and damn what a difference!
I believe my diet is on point I mean I was 17lbs up within 7weeks so I'm obviously eating enough and I have one cheat meal about every other week and its dinner out..like steak or sushi(not really cheatin) ..I don't have any bloat in my face or arms like my estro isn't even high no extra water retention. Just my stomachs looks piffy from all the food
you think steak is a cheat meal??? WTF is wrong with you
you are bulking you should be having cheat meals WAY more often. Hell there is no such thing as a cheat meal while bulking
actually beef is a really good cheat meal. i have 2 "cheat meals" a week eating shit while bulking only makes you look like shit.
I eat pie, pizza, ice cream protein smoothies, on top of my "healthy" foods while bulking and look fuckin lean and yoked.
I don't have cheat meals while bulking because there's no such thing.
you might get away with that now, but it wont work for you when you get older.
You have no idea how many people tell me that lol. I've had borderline hyperthyroidism my whole life.
Not sure if that has anything to do with it. But my metabolism is fast for sure. My activity level is also extremely high. I'm sure that has a lot to do with me being able to eat anything and not blow up.
You can see why it's difficult for me to add mass. I spent like 4 months straight drinking ice cream smoothies every night right before bed and didn't gain fat or weight. It has like 5 scoops ice cream, 1 cup 2% milk, 6 large strawberries, 3/4 cup blueberries, 1 cup applesauce, peach, 1 cup pineapple and sometimes I add other stuff like yogurt. It comes out to 1/2 gallon. I drank this every night with my pbj sandwich every night while on a 4600 calorie diet and stayed at 12-13% BF while on test/deca/drol.
try drinking a case of cokes a day.
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that is why I never stop bulking.
RustyhookerGet blood test
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/its-not-the-gear
do you notice a increase in your sex drive
I did like the first few weeks..now its just average
Bro either way u shouldnt be expecting some drastic gains if your just pinnin test E.
I no..I should have ran tren..nahh next time I'm gonna kick start with prop and anadrol probably
Buildbigger86TREN??? How many cycles have you done bro?? Tren is an advanced compound, that should be used by people who have a few good cycle's under their belt at least.
Nahh I was kidding..I'm dont plan on using tren for a very long time.
SimplyShredded1"If the source that provided you the oils" Has a good rep with the brand it sells, then brother its your diet/training, i can speak from my personal experience a while ago..
Buildbigger86Your Test may be way under dosed.. I don't know what source you used, but it seems like oil's are under dosed.
You have side effects of Test that is why i don't believe it's Fake but i think that at 600mg a week. You should really see a difference in your body and a great feeling of well being. Especially since this is your first real cycle on test. You should be blowing up. To gain only 15 pounds and have all the side effects from Test does not seem like you gained much muscle from this Test Eth your running. Not trying to be offensive. I am not saying your not training hard or eating bad or anything like that, but i think your test is way under dosed brother. 600MG a week of Test Eth for a first cycle you should DEF be feeling it man.
Why do you switch your aromasin dosage though. You should run 12.5mg ED and stay with that dosage for whole cycle.
I am curious to know who your source was... PLEASE DONT POST SOURCE NAME ON THE FORUM PAGE THOUGH. THAT IS NOT ALLOWED. But if you don't mind PM me, i would like to know who it came from.
RustyhookerHe cited source below several times.
Buildbigger86I saw that after i wrote that. Damn ADD, i just answer to quick sometimes.
What's up bro, about being sore, being on a test only cycle your muscles are going to retain more water then usual. Not saying they are going to overly swole, but this water the body is holding in the muscle will allow them to recover more quickly. I have scrolled down and noticed your source and I can assure you that it is quality test. Keep to the game plan eat right, train heavy and sleep well. I highly suggest to not add anadrol, it is excellent for a kickstarter but not finisher. Most gains made from drol are water and you will lose most of the gains when you finish your cycle, also being your first aas cycle you really want to stick with test only to learn how your body reacts. 15lbs in less then two months is a lot of mass, if you are saying your only holding a little water and some fat. That is definitely acceptable on a bulk cycle.
My first test only cycle I gained 18lbs and kept 13lbs. So just keep working hard bro it sounds like your cycle is going well, these aren't miracles in a vial....sorry had to say. Good luck brother.
oh yeah i will lose alot of gains from anadrol..but if i could go back i would have atleast kickstarted with prop or something..this is crazy long to wait..and yeah mutagenics seems like a good guy and alot of people love his gear.. idk tho..i will see what week 8 brings and go from their
Using prop to kickstart ur cycle is a great option. Did you lay your cycle out in cycle logs before you started this? I'm surprised no mentioned it or recommended it to you. I highly recommend a prop kickstart on your next cycle. Also you aren't suppose to mention sources in open forums only through personal messages.
Your test is 100% underdosed,i have many cycles with test e and usually i notice the effects on week 4 or 5,in dose 500mg,on dose 750mg notice the effects after week 3
RustyhookerHes not dosing ai correct......
Low estro or high estro screws with growth. Bloating...is high estro..
yeah but i dont have bloating in face, arms or anything and my joints dont really hurt, nips seem ok
bloating isn't always visually noticeable. nips are not always a good indicator of high estrogen.
RustyhookerIm bout to start 16th cycle so what would i know......
Buildbigger86Haha, Yeah what you know my friend..
JK of course
RustyhookerWhat is your ai??
Aromasin
RustyhookerLike 25/day...half the bottle...a lil sqwart???? Your asking for help but suppkying no info. Lol
i wrote it down the bottom of page..12.5mg eod and 6.25mg on the in between days
RustyhookerSo your estro is high. High estro explains everything you said. Halflife of aro is 27hrs and your dosing oddly. 12.5ed. And get bloods done.
i was at 12.5mg everyday and my lips started to get dry
Are you sure your Test E isn't bunk? When I was on Test E only, it kicked in at week 5. Everyone's different thought, you might bloom at week 8 or 9. just wait it out, no need to throw in other compounds brother! Might want to adjust your diet a bit also.
thats what i thought..but its A.NATION doubt its bunk..smells a little minty