+ 3 To the guys that wana gain 25 lb + per cycle
We all seen this guy who out of no where goes on a cycle , bam! blows up 25 lb. then we wonder how did this guy do it, what was his diet, his cycle?
here is the truth..now this is gunna make some ppl mad.The reason these guys grow so much on their cycles is because they shouldn’t even be using steroids to begin with..
let look at johnny ,an example of a 20 yr old kid in my gym. Average looking guy, 12%bf, 180 lb , 5 11'. He starts a cycle and 12 weeks later, bam! 215 lb. Dude walking around in the gym like a boss with his shoulders and lats in ur face, people are bowing down, giving high five. hell his friends were like " yo bro , ur mad cool, hook me up w/ the juice so i could be swole like u" dude was living the life until he slowly went back down to 170lb in a matter of weeks.
the reason why johnny grew 25+ lbs was because he was so far behind his genetic potential that he jus grew when he started injecting himself. he could of gotten there naturally but he wanted now. a better word for this would be short cut. he wanted a short cut and thats what he got.
so the kid lost his size because he couldnt handle PCT to get his ass out to workout hard enough. his diet was garbage.
So when hear about a guy gaining 25+ lb , please know that he is probably some impatient punk who could of gotten their with patience
guys who need steroids are not growing 25+lb they are getting 10lb and keeping 6-8 lbs.
this is a life style , there are no shortcuts. u gotta think about the long runs. when u start injecting that tren too early in the game , u building that AAS plateau faster. When u take the DBOL for cosmetic reasons , dont think that ur gunna keep those gains.
just remember people that our bodies are not meant to gain 25+ lb in a matter of 3 month. it doesnt give ur body time to adjust, it adds unexpected stress to tendon, joints , ligament. how many people have u met that gotten injured right after a cycle? cuz i met tons. its time for the guys here who post stuff like "tren on second cycle" or the guys that wana take every compound in the book in one cycle to grow the fuck up. I'm tired of seeing it in real life and this forum. look at the long term people, why are u gunna mess ur self up for something u can get naturally and a cosmetic reason most of all. and i wish i could say we all play professional baseball.
if ur having trouble growing, change ur diet, training. there are tons of websites that give free training advice, supersets, super drop set, negatives, alternating the wieghts & reps. get with it guys. if u can get there naturally, then get there. u ll be better off
gudluck guys. dont abuse the juice, got me raging and i havent even started my cycle yet, damnn
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Anonjust read that. he had 4 new compounds for his first cycle. guys at my gym tell me stuff like that. "stack 6 compounds todether and as long as u dont run it past 16 weeks u dont need a PCT". Thats why i fucked up on my first couple cycles. thank god for eroids though. u wanna do things right u can learn on here
I would rather put on 10 lbs and keep 6-8 than 25+ any day. putting on 25 lbs and then loosing most of it would be depressing. not to mention all the extra work you'll have to put in to get rid off all the fat you put on... not worth it.
Hella true for folks of ANY age. They hit that huge water mass bulker..then piss out the water and lose the rest. End up 2 months after pct with 12lbs . Why stress the body that hard to piss it away. Its a no brainer we prech daily on forums but folks got to learn the hard way sometimes.
I am 35 and put 29lbs on my first cycle I just finished. I actually cut 2% body fat while on cycle. It was a mass building cycle so obviously not all muscle and some water weight. I am definitely not nearly as cut as you, but I know for a fact I busted my ass in the gym 6 days a week and tried to follow a quality diet with quality calories. I am hoping to keep at least 15 lbs of that quality size for my next cycle. I'm just saying not everyone is like 20 year old Johnny because everyone's genetic make up is different. I also know that the first cycle is one of the best, so the probability of gaining like I did the first time is probably not as high, but I am still going to go into to the gym and bust my ass to try and maximize my potential while on cycle.
silverback89happend to me i put o and kept about 12-13 lb of muscle from my summer cycle. During my post i went lil to heavy on dumbell press cuz my buddy was pushen me(hes a big motherfuker) and now my ligaments connecting my shoulder and clavical are hurten lil bit.. Thats lift mann take thows joint suppliments ..
be carefull man, the heavier the weight , the more traumatic the injury
you gotta figure if a guy can put on 12-18 pounds a year and keep it thats pretty freggin awesome. I got a cat in my gym that east a 5 pound bag of cytomass from Costco every week, that shit is so nasty and full of garbage calories, but he gains a shitload of weight, then after his cycle he looks like shit till his next one..quality counts.
+1 for the right mindset, exactly what i like to say
It all boils down to diet. When some dudes go on a cycle they'll eat anything and everything they can to try and hit their calorie quota. Even if it's KFC and donuts for breakfast. Just because they hit 25+ lbs on a cycle doesn't mean those are quality gains. The rest of us are hitting 10-15 lbs per cycle but maintain those gains because they're quality muscle gains, do to a quality diet. It's actually very easy to gain 25+ on a cycle, no matter your age or experience with steroids. But some of us just rely on our knowledge of diet and will power.
I agree. I've been lifting for several years before I did my first cycle, and I gained 25 lb, but it wasn't just because I was on cycle, it was because I was eating big to get big. I'm not a bodybuilder, so it didn't matter quite as much as me, but I did end up gain considerably more fat than I wanted to. I wasn't eating junk either, just too much at the wrong time. Consequently, I lost pretty much all the body weight I gained, because I went straight to cutting; being fat was not something I was fond of. I'm back on cycle now and playing it smart, currently only up about 7 pounds on week six of my cycle, and getting leaner.
AnonGood stuff +1
thanks man, just trying to help out ppl get the right mind set
juice12345678Agreed
Well put bro!