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Cravings, addiction and AAS

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I have lived a a life of inner battle. I have always been an athlete, and at the same time an addict... I've binged on a fifth of scotch in the evening only to wake up at 4 in the morning to run 12 miles and swear booze off forever. Repeatedly...day after day, month after month, for years. I didn't always finish the fifth, I didn't always run a dozen miles, but the constant was my drinking, I always wanted to quit and I ALWAYS ended up drinking.

I started drinking at a really young age. My dad thought it was funny to give whiskey to a 5 year old, and from the start I loved the fuzzy feeling it gave me. I mostly smoked weed in high school and didn't become an expert at drinking until I joined the army. I easily drank a 12 pack a day, but I always ran with the fast group in PT the next day and could always out run a hang over. By the end of my first marriage I was up to nearly a fifth of vodka a day. I also smoked a pack a day, had quit exercising entirely and was completely miserable. I woke up in the ER one late morning after a binge with alcohol poisoning. Fat, unmotivated and ready to just "go away forever". It was time for a change.

I started running again in 2002, I was 6'2", 240#s with a 38 inch waist, I was 29 years old. I went for an easy 3 mile run, but couldn't even make it around the block! Within a month of that first run I had told my wife I wanted a divorce (that is a whole other story), had quit smoking, quit drinking and signed up for a marathon with only 5 months to train. Life was getting good again, I never did start smoking again (it's been 12 years now) running had saved my life for the time being. I was running 35-50 miles a week, competing several times a year, I remarried in 2007, have and we have 2 wonderful kids, but.... The alcohol was always there... I still binged, I hid it from wife when I could, and other times it was obvious. In my late thirties it became a lot more difficult to outrun my hangovers.

In 2010 I had to give up running do to an overuse injury in my left lower leg. I went to 2 surgeons, Pt, massage and nothing helped. No running and now the monkey was really on my back. I started drinking around noon, I'ld pick my kids up from daycare drunk. My neighbor would watch my kids play in the street while I was passed out in the bed of my pick up. I was an asshole, and a drunk.

I had started lifting in the gym at he end of 2009 since I knew my running days may be coming to an end. I had lifted in high school and in the army, so I knew the basics. I put on muscle fast, I went from 177 #s of running weight to 200 and mostly solid. I started AA and gave up on booze, again. AA works, it's a good program, but I kinda hate it.

Anyway, this is an AAS forum, so I'll jump to the present. I started TRT therapy about 2 1/2 years ago. It was been a real blessing for me. It's helped me stay fit in the gym, keep off extra weight and really squashed my depression. TRT is expensive though, and my insurance doesn't cover it. I found Eroids ands decided to start doing my own TRT never looked back. One thing I noticed with TRT was that my alcohol cravings had begun to diminish. I used to be able to quit for about a week and than the cravings would begin, but now I really don't get cravings that often and when I do I can overcome them much easier.

After 4 1/2 years in the gym and a couple years on TRT, I decided I would do a beginner cycle of cyp 500 a week for 12 weeks and anaver 100 for the last 5 weeks. I have had a couple slips with the booze while on cycle, but not like the old slips. Instead of full glasses of scotch, I've had a couple beers. I even drank half a beer and poured the rest out, which has never happened before. I am surprised that AAS has done this with my cravings. I'm eating so much better, my body looks great and I am happy. While nothing lasts forever, I will enjoy this peaceful time in my life.

Thank you for letting me ramble...

rolltide3's picture

Iv had some similar experiences bro glad you have turned your life around i see so many guys that aren't so lucky

bxtazman's picture

great story bro, keep looking forward and only look back when you need a reminder of why you are looking forward!

Dextermorganlv's picture

Thanks for all the support on this thread. I really love this site, it has been a positive change in my life. I see there are a lot of people with a wide swinging pendulum ... It's great when it swings in the right direction of good health and fitness.

alayna's picture

All of life is a wide swinging pendulum and you seemed to have swung back quite a few times ... keep reinventing yourself...kudos to you for not living in the mire and singing the poor me song...and double props foe not going back to smoking!
They say what doesn't kill ya makes you stronger....you prove that.

NoPain's picture

Many of us have been there bro. The important part is after all these years, after all the times you have been down and falling off the track, you have shown you have the ability t get back up and keep fighting. Sooner or later you will out it all together and give up the booze forever. In the end, it's not worth it!

My devil was opiates. I will never forget the day I went from opiates to suboxone. I was a fucking mess until the sub kicked in. I vowed to never feel like that again. I can't say I will never slip again but after years of suboxone treatment and now years of being clean from opiates I still feel that way. There will be a time when I need opiates I'm sure of it. My biggest fear is how I respond and not let it take control again. I've dealt with some serious pain all to avoid opiates but that can't last forever. So i try to keep my mind clear to accept it and to remember if and when it happens, I can be strong and stop. I just have to visualize how I felt before.

Good luck bro. Stay strong and keep fighting.

SWOLEtimer's picture

My man...and this is coming from experience, but subs should not be a permanent solution. In fact, suboxone screws with your brain chemistry(dopamine receptors) almost as bad as oxy and methadone. There will be a whole other level of withdraw if you were to stop the subs. I have friends battling with suboxone use alone and saw several in rehabs for subs.

I say this only with help in mind and in no way mean to downplay your success in fighting opiate addiction. Its a hard beast to tame and have struggled with it myself for years. I was fortunate enough to come off without the help of subs. But you may want to consider weening off of the subs and talking to your doctor about doing so. Props for the clean time though and good luck.

NoPain's picture

Sorry I wasn't clear. I've been off suboxone and clean from all opiates for a few years now and you are right sub should never be a permanent solution. If the person isn't ready to stop though, they shouldn't. Sub is a fucking bitch to come off. My trick was to get on the lowest dose I could handle as fast as possible. I was stuck at 1/4mg for a long time until I finally jumped off for good. The next week was hell. But each week git better. Took a long time to get a portion of myself back. I never fully recovered to be honest. I think my hormones got fucked up.. Once I found test.. I became a totally different person. I felt like the old me.

Deadlifter85's picture

I feel the same way-- like my endocrine system never fully recovered. Between PH use in highschool, then optiate shut down bad for 2 years in college in 06 and 07, then a relapse in 2010-11 shut me down again. I just never had much of a sex drive after that last one, Ive been on all of 1 date since then haha. I did my first cycle last year and it was a totally different ball game as you can imagine. Now I finished PCT and Im afraid I didnt recover. barely even checking out chicks in the gym etc. I know the Pct drugs were legit, at least the nolva, since it killed the gyno flair I had, but I felt like I was low when I started, and now Im feeling about the same as I usually do.

NoPain's picture

I would run blood work and check your natural levels. Like I said, mine were within normal range in the low 400's so doc's won't treat me. However, they fail to look at the symptoms and the age factor. My levels may be normal but for who? An 80 year old? I'm 38. I had very little sex drive for years before finding test. I was miserable all around.

You may be low natty or maybe you never recovered properly from the PH/opiate use. It's very possible. Easily disguised as depression. Everything to doctors these days is depression. Doc, I'm tired and don't want sex. Oh your depressed here are some anti-depressants. Zero tests, zero blood work.
Any quack can say you are depressed but a real doc will find out why.

Deadlifter85's picture

Ya Im planning to get bloods as soon as I have some extra $$. The overall drive and motivation is what I notice most, or lack there of. Ive been on and off various anti depressants and anti anxiety meds over the last 10 years - been off everything the last 2 years, but that never seemed to help with the just seemingly general lack of motivation I had to find a good job, etc. Like its not that Im lazy, I just dont care. But when I ran tue test cycle it was a whole different ball game. I was thinking, what the hell am I doing with myself, I need to get my shit together and get stuff done. I started a new personal training business. I felt like thats how I was always supposed to feel and something had been missing all these years. Now Im back to blah lol. Hard to find the motivation to talk to new clients and make sales, wanting to skip workouts, etc. Hopefully Ill be able to get the bloods done soon again, its a money issue for me, everything is always a money issue for me ugh. I got bloods about 4 weeks into my cycle and levels were at 1350 or so, not off the chart high, but even at that level I felt like a million bucks.

TheFlash85's picture

sounds like depression bro......chin up. feel free to open a forum topic if you need cycle/pct advice.

WINNING's picture

Wow that's a great story, very motivating and inspirational! I'm glad your happy, you should be prowd of yourself! Let this last forever, you turned away, now never look back! Keep moving forward! Godspeed!

BlackDoug's picture

I still live this roller coaster nightmare. I fear that my inability to stop will be my demise. You can only live it one day at a time. Sometimes one hour even one minute at a time. An art I've yet to master. Opiates are my nemesis and the only thing I've become an expert at is fighting withdraw. So it may not mean much but I'm proud of you and you should be proud of yourself for your achievements

BlackDoug's picture

Accepted

jackarow's picture

I too was addicted to opiates and just about everything else bro. Its good too see you making it. Keep it up. Ive been clean now over 6 years. Anything I can do to help let me know.

Trenbend's picture

Keep going bro never quit