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Hey been reading the forum for a bit but just joined.
I'm gonna throw my stats out there before I even start with my questions.

Age 30 5'7" 162 (implants amouting to 14 pounds) bf%20 I'm endo/meso wanting to get down to around 15% for now
Training off and on for about 5 years

Current training is 7 days a week though I've been lagging in cardio the past 2 weeks (cardio daily 20min minimum..stair master)
Mon - legs/core
Tues - back/bis
wed - shoulders/core
Thurs - chest/Tris
Fri - legs(low weight/bodyweight)/core
Sat/sun either just cardio or lagging muscles

Current diet 1700-1750
Carb cycle ...slightly carb sensitive
mon/wed/fri (carbs) Friday being my cheat meal
Tues/thurs/sat/sun no carbs

Carbs - (1-6) steal cut oats, yougurt, or just shake or egg white French toast
(2-5) 4 oz protein, avacado, sweet potatoes sometimes eziekel bread w/tuna (greens at times)

No carbs - (1-6) protein pancake or egg white omelet w/spinach
(2-5) 4oz protein and dark greens or broc.

Current supps
Probiotic, vit e, c, d, multi, diesel protein, glutamin, glycine , zma, fish oil, dim, liver support, (other reasons) cloraphyll, oil of oregano, lycine

Currently running on week 2 of 10-12week cycle
20mg var 10/10 split
50mcg clen plan to hit 100mcg pyramid style

Currently have Winny and primo at my disposals as well (non oral)

Current back pic in selfies for reference .

My plan is to lean out and cut! I carry belly fat from having two kids so thats a huge concern for me im also not looking to get any thicker. I like the look of large legs and glutes as well as shoulders back and arms but the small tight vascular stomach is what im after..i steer clear of extrn. Obliques.

So first question what does my above look like...and suggestions to tweak this will be noted....I'm looking for a no bs answer!
Second i'm wanting to pin and I'm just curious if I will obtain desired results and when/which/ what I should cycle in or remove.
I'm also experiencing major pump in my lower back and quads....my quads were so bad tonight I couldn't finish my leg workout :o should I go back down to 10mg of var or work through it?

I'm not looking for anyone to rag on me or what not, I'm looking for honest truth and where to go next.

As I mentioned I want to be hard and muscular but still fem.....from prior var cycles I've had good results ...this is the first time on clen ....I'm def holding water but I've never gotten and sides other then oily skin which I'm prone to anyways...and now here crazy pumps!

Sorry for it being long and scattered ..

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

You asked for a straight shooting response and the guys below all gave you the Ultimate advice in my opinion.

You cannot get any more honest or to the point advice like this anywhere else on the net............ i hope you absorb and learn from the input given........ good luck.

+3s to all the guys below............ fantastic input!.. thanks guys Smile

kodiakGRRL's picture

I am basically going to repeat what Drock said with a few things thrown in.

  1. you are taking an anabolic steriod that was created to put muscle on people with muscle wasting disease. Your body fat is such that at 20% instead of seeing a LOT of fat loss with anavar you WILL GET THICKER ... it does not discriminate where the muscle goes (you do have to eat properly though)
  2. for a first or even second cycle for just fat loss 20 mg is completely unncesssary
  3. anabolic steriods are not fat loss drugs and should not be treated as such
  4. at 1700 calories your body thinks it is starving ... you wanna build muscle you need to eat like you are building muscle .. you wanna burn fat get off the juice it is a lose lose situation here and you are asking the impossible of your body to cut and add muscle at the same time. it is a waste of money
    5 you aren't going to do much cardio running var or most substances
  5. winstrol is imo one of the WORST steriods a person can run because of the internal side effects that no one seems to want to discuss
    6.1 you wont see fat loss from winstrol unless you are looking at about 10% body fat
  6. primo doses have to be higher than standard and those often bring side effects like thinning hair and body hair
  7. primo is NOT a fat loss compound and at 20% bf you may see strength increases (not likely because you aren't eating enough) but you will NOT see noticeable fat loss from primo
  8. if you are looking for a good diet to stimulate fat loss research the dulcan diet and with some tweeks it can be used while cycling as well
  9. If you aren't seriously competing there is no reason to even consider 'stacks'
  10. ditch the clen you can and should be able to do it with dietary changes that you can maintain and continue ....
  11. what are you going to do without the clen and you haven't changed anything else ... the weight comes back
Cheekymammi's picture

Have you used the dukan diet? Its telling me I can eat all day pretty much!!!! Like am I looking at the right thing!?!?!?

It has like a list of 100 food you can eat ...and an attack phase ....cruising phase...and so on....

Can you confirm?

kodiakGRRL's picture

I use a 'version' of it to suit my needs and yes you can eat all day every day 1. you need to do a detox before you start 2. you need to do the 5 days of proteins only and then move into the rest of the 'diet'

Cheekymammi's picture

Thank you!

Cheekymammi's picture

Thanks so much! Yeah I hadn't revised my cals since I put on some muscle ...so currently in the works ...I should be around 2100 if not a little more.

I will read up on that diet as soon as I'm done this post.

So say I want to stay the size I am and just cut....rather then loose weight what would your suggestion be? I love the size I am ....just not my waist line its a little thick but livable. I'm very much into the Dana Lynn baily body tbh.

Oh also wanting to compete in figure this year...it started out with wanting bikini but I don't like the tiny mushy look...I'd rather be a bit bigger and harder.

kodiakGRRL's picture

if you want to stay the size you are and just cut get on that diet once you've cut the fat that you are happy with then and only then use anavar to assist with adding more muscle get (only if you are eating enough though to maintain muscle AND add muscle)

I'm very much into the Dana Lynn baily body tbh.

i understang liking a 'look'... but why not be the best you that you can be ;-)

Oh also wanting to compete in figure this year...it started out with wanting bikini but I don't like the tiny mushy look...I'd rather be a bit bigger and harder.

start with the diet ... assess where you are in 12 weeks .. pick a local show ;-)

Maeve's picture

Wish I saw this before I gave my response, lol! Would have saved ten minutes of my life ;)

kodiakGRRL's picture

lol..oops ;-)

Drock_357's picture

Ok ..here's my no bs reply

1.weight loss / bf loss should not b centered around what compound you r running...proper nutrition and training is the answer...
From your posted stats n workout routine.....tdee is 2660, your intake is 1750.....that's a serious cut! Are you tracking macros? Please post them up...
2.if you r wanting to cut some b/f..then adding cardio is a must!....you r currently doing 1 day (at best) of cardio...changing this to 2-3 per week will really get the fat loss started....
Working out 7 days a week can also b a factor here....letting the body rest and reset from some off days should b considered....3 on 1 off 2 on 1 off routine can b very benefical for tricking up the metabolism
3. As far as your cycle goes I won't weigh in on since I'm not very knowledgeable on the clen aspect....however I will add that neither compound is needed for weight loss here and use should b discontinued....if your intentions were to bulk then a var cycle with the proper nutrition may b beneficial
Working just as hard in the kitchen as in the gym is all you need here to achive your goal! This concludes my no bs reply...

Cheekymammi's picture

You are absolutely right about my cals ...I haven't revised in a while. I will post my macros/food log after next week.
Does rest days mean no cardio as well....as in no gym period :( :o. ?

Drock_357's picture

Yes.....taking a rest day gives the muscles a chance to recover .....during a workout muscle gets tiny little "tears" in it, now is when muscle growth occurs,..now the body repairs these tiny "tears" resulting in a larger muscle...these "tears and repairs" r very small but after repeated (months/years) of workouts, the results become visual.....obviously that's not the scientific explanation but that's a simple way for me to explain it
So yes rest days r needed for recovery....
Side note:....diet should compliment your workouts so on "off" days cal intake will b lower than a heavy workout day....

Maeve's picture

I'm going to answer what Drock left out- because his response was pretty solid. Get off of the clen, you don't need it. Increase your cardio and stay consistent with your diet. Once your metabolism is spiked, your body fat will drop. I didn't see it addressed, but since your on-cycle you should be drinking about a gallon of water a day, especially with clen. That shit is harsh with the sides and will have you shaking like a junkie if your clen is legit.

On to the anavar.. 12 weeks is a solid amount of time, no more. 20mg is a good dose and splitting them is fine because it will keep your levels even with the short half life of anavar. Anavar is not necessary for the fat loss. It will make you feel wide and thick. I believe in the old school bulk and then cut. You'll be more successful if you add on the muscle first, then shed the fat instead of trying to tackle both. Anavar shouldn't have made you hold excess water. If you were holding a ton before cycle, best method is water in = water out. Increase your intake (I mentioned above).

If you have already started your cycle, finish it out. I don't like adding/subtracting compounds that I wasn't previously planning on. Each cycle is fully planned. I love primo and winstrol.. Winstrol will give you that nice, hard look-- but honestly, winny isn't going to give you the look you want... It works best with low body fat percentages (cardio, diet and intense lifting).

Cheekymammi's picture

What do you suggest for a good cardio regime? Also as I said above I'm happy with the size I am so I think the add muscle then shed fat is the way to go for me....just want my waist leaner but that's partially genetics.

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