Just getting in the game!
Hello everyone,
I am newbie to the workout world. I am a first time user of a forum so please be patient with me.
I am looking to due my first cycle. I have been researching for the past 6 months of the dos an don'ts of steroids.
Well first off let me tell you a little about myself. I am 38 with 2 children an have been married for 15yrs. I was always an unhealthy guy, smoking, drinking an not really taking care of myself. Last January I decided I would start a new way life. So I did just that. I stopped smoking an drinking an started eating healthy an working out at home. Lots of cardio and weight lifting. I am 6ft an was 225lbs with a fat % of about 35. After the first yr I am down to 190 an a body fat of 13%. I guess my question is the past few months I have not seen any results or I should say getting bigger at all. So I am looking to do a first cycle to give me a edge. I know a lot of people will tell me to stay natural but I have made up my mind, I going to do it. I am asking is what would be a good first cycle for a guy like me? Please be honest.
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Ok, made my first order for some test e and all my pct an some a.i. Can't wit till it gets here. Got my diet dialed in now an workout routine is on track. Bring on the aas so I can fell better about myself.
GoldPowerwarm welcome, all the best !
Welcome, take care, buddy
Welcome Mike,
I know the temptation for a quick fix is there, but seriously bro..Spend a little time on the site. Interact with everyone, read everything you can, figure out the perfect cycle and then take the jump. There are a ton of quick fixes but you need to learn enough that you are perfectly comfortable with the cycle that you choose to run. You may have your bro's in the Gym saying:"Oh yeah bro, Sustanon is the shit!" and you may have a few bros here saying Test E or Test C....
I say Take some time to look at the big picture.
It's all here in and in the forums. There has been good advice given here. For a first cycle just chill with some Test E or C. Read up on long vs. short esthers. Learn about A.I's and PCT and all of that good stuff. Figure out with something you are comfortable with. There are a lot of people in here who you can learn from, and I can promise, if you spend enough time in here studying and listening you will walk away feeling perfectly comfortable about what you are running knowing that you are doing everything possible to keep yourself healthy and safe.
You have worked too hard to burn yourself out on bro science.
Thanks bro, I,am going to wait an get some blood work,done to c how my levels are now. I posted in cycle forums an got some good info from Tread-m. Have to work a little better on my diet guess supplements ain't all they cracked up,to b.lol. So I'm going to revise everything an maybe next month c what happens. Sucks that I already ordered some susanton an getting it in a couple days. Oh well save it for another cycle down the road.
You can send it to me, and I'll hold on to it for you just so the temptation isn't there.
That's like saying heres my bank account number but don't use it. Lol
Yeah bro. You can do that too. Trust me.
Yea right.
Lol, Tread gave me his credit card and the keys to his house once. Lol. I'm all about the trust brother.
You want a simple and easy (easy??!) cycle? Simple, yes, first few should be. Forget the sustanon, you want to start with one compound, as others have said. Sus is 4 or more compounds. I started with sustanon and regret it. Go with test e or c. Check out "Cycle Logs" under the "community" tab and look at others' first cycles and their responses from the vets.
I also started too early, didn't have diet and training to a T yet. Which I regret.
I also didn't have everything on hand, not enough test, no aromatase inhibitors, not enough estrogen blockers. Which I regret.
Hormone levels being all over the place SUCKS. And having a great base is key. Follow all the advice from these guys and girls and you'll be healthy and jacked. Do it wrong and, well, remember you have kids, keep yourself healthy.
Great advice. Local friends r telling me susanton is the way to go. Idk, sounds lik u guys know more. been looking into test e an c but still undecided. I'm looking to get a fuller but ripped look. Don't want to b a giant just to look built.
welcome to the game, enjoy it as much as you can, bro
ThunderLighthello and fingers crossed
grats on the healthy life change man!!!! im new here too so i have no advice for you, other then if your gonna do it do it correct....good luck with your cycle when you find one sir! im 38 no kids so were in the same bracket, im 200lbs and 16% body fat.... been ifting on and off for years seriously dedicated for 10 months now.....
Thanks, sounds like we're in the same boat. Been reading a lot on here and some great info. Still trying to,find the simplest and easiest first cycle to do and still get ripped and bigger. Lol, yes right. Good luck to you an keep,me post on your results
If I run just a test e or a test prop. Do I have to any kind of pct afterwards? Or do I have to do a anti estorgen? Thanks. What's a good source on the net for theses.
Absofuckinlutely!!! Both are needed and should be all bought and recieved before 1st pin ever touches skin...as i said below arimadex is good @ .25mg eod up to .5 if needed
pct should be clomid 100/100/50/50(thats100 everyday for a week then 50 ect) and nolva 40/40/20/20
If you have to ask this question u need to hold off and wait and do more research
This is why I'm asking, not pining nothing till I get the facts I need. Now if I do a susanton 250, will I still need the same?
OF COURSE bro sust. Is test .....test turns into estrogen.....estgrogen will give u gyno.....take ai's to prevent gyno.......ALWAYS do a pct....it helps keep gains and wont have you crashing from low test bc what steroids do is shut down your natural test ....why your balls shrink....always no matter what get the ai's and pct first in place and ready go go before you do first pin.....spelled out enough or do you need to ask again?
Thanks man, I am a newbie so please be patient. I don't know everything an I'm still learning this stuff. Thanks for the info
Lol i was in a bad mood when i wrote that. Now i just woike up from a nap after the gym and im good ....my bad for the condesention ur good man just try and read up on anything and everything and you'll be fine
Welcome. Good luck with reaching your goals ;)
Test Prop or test e cycle. See how it goes an if AAS is for you or not. Please don't add anything mid-cycle OR decide you are steroid veteran and plan out a massive 2nd cycle of prop/tren/eq and var with clenbuterol and t3/t/4 and hgh.
Good luck and get ready to be a human pin cushion...oh ya one more thing aspirate every time and rotate injections, always use new needles and be really careful with the pinning process. I'm sure you know all the stuff I said but often times "researching," can involve opinions by people who don't know what the vets on this site know. I'm NOT a vet by any means but lotta guys here are look around.
first off welcome and congrats on your new start, life style changes are not easy. BIGBOSS77 is correct keep the first cycle simple and easy. One compound so you can get an idea of how your body is going to react. The bases of all cycles should include test. Do your home work read through the forums there is plenty to learn good luck to you.
Welcome bro!!! I run just test E 250 to 300 first. Then make a decision what you want to do after that run. This way you know how it works with your body. Good Luck!!
TRAIN HARD
Hard to stick to a strict diet, or should I say getting in 6 meals. Have to do a lot of suppelments to get the 6 in. Any suggestion?
Welcome bro! And congrats on the weight loss, it's crazy what you can do in a year when you cut out all the garbage. When you decide to go on gear, I'd up the diet/caloric intake to optimize the gains from AAS. Everyone says do a Test only cycle for your first one. Are you needle shy? If not I'd say run a short cycle (4-6wks) of Test Prop 100mgs EOD to see how your body reacts Have Arimidex or Aromasin (AI's) on hand at .5mg or 12.5mg EOD respectively to keep your T/E levels in check. . Or you could go with a longer ester and run it longer. Like "thepullmanator" said Test E or C @ 500mgs/wk for 12wks split into 2 days is a great cycle too, but due to the longer esters you won't see results until a couple weeks in. Same dosing in AI's for this/any cycle with Test to keep your levels in check. As for PCT he got it right again so refer to his post about the Nolva and Clomid. If you were to run the short Prop cycle, you'd have to start 2 days after your last injection. For the Test E/C you'd have to start PCT one week after your last shot.
No not shy of needles. I was thinking of running just a susaton 250 for 10 wks an see what happens. Will I have to do a pct after this cycle?
Or have any kind of ais on hand? What do you think
welcome to the board
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GJ thepullmanator i'll give you a +1 somewhere you killed this post.
first thing is if you are at a stand still naturally, that usually means you need to check your diet and make sure that you are getting the protein you need.. and with said I am sure a few people with more experience than me will step in and help you out... 38 years old... hummmm almost the big 40... you could have low test and that might be the reason as well.. if you can get your blood work done that will show you a lot... me being 41 had my blood work done and found out I was very low... first cycle everyone will tell you Test only run with an AI and see what that does to your body.. do not go and put a complex cycle together your first run.. and again there will be some pros that will have better knowledge to help you>>> welcome to the community.. research, research... this is a place where everyone wants you to get the knowledge then ask the questions..
Well I'm taking in about 190-220 grams of protein a day. I drink about 3 shakes a day for that. I'm sure my diet has a lot to do with it. I work almost 10rs a day 6 days a week, so it's kinda hard to get 6 good meals in a day. So i do a lot of supplements, as protein, fiber and carbs. Fish oil things of that nature. Some days are less then others but I try to get 2100 calories a day, give or take. I just got done doing the solid an ah-d with a m-stak an seen pretty good results. But with such a hectic life style I cant comment to a perfect diet, just no time. Lol. Being self employed I have crappy insurance so blood work is out of the question. Hence why I'm looking into doing a cycle. Herd it helps when your diet isn't the best. Thanks
First and foremost...and this was stuffed down my throat (which im glad for)....95% diet 10% training and 5% gear...and yes math is correct bc it takes 110 percent which is hard for some even me i have alot of trouble with dedication....but after your 100 % sure your diet is spot on(and thier is a diet forum for this reason) and your sure your training is spot on(also a forum for this lol) everybody will agree to read vikining pre/cycle check list beofre you start..
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/fool-proof-guide-....
So once this is established and your ai and pct is in place before you start.....
500mg test E or C split 250 mon and thursday .25 eod arimidex to start with and up to .5 if signs of gyno pop up
I have know idea what your bottom line means, 500mg test e or c, or .25 eod?? I herd a susaton 250 would be a good start for me. Mixed with some kinda of estrogen blocker. Am I wrong. Idk that's why I'm asking. Thanks for the reply
My apologies....a good first cycle is this....only test no other compounds so you know how your body reacts to it so later on other cycles yoknow what sides t from test and what arent...ok so 12 weeks on Test enanthate or test cypionate these are esters that prolong to release of the test...
Ok so 500 mg of test e split into 2 doeses 250 mg on monday 250mg on thurday.you have got to make sure your anti-estrogens(ai's) like arimidex or aromasin arimidex doeses should be .25mg eod(everyother day) and your pct(post cycle therapy) are in place before your start hence the checklist i posted above make sure u do alot of reseach with this as pct and ai are the most important parts of cycle bc they prevent gyno and help you keep gains and help you from crashing levels...pct should be clomid 100 mg ed for a week then 50 ed for a week along with nolvadex 40mg ed for a week then 20mg ed for a week starting one week after after last shot of test
Mainly just do research on this site bc u obviously need to learn more b4 starting and thats not a bad thing at all brother keep up the research u'll be ok
Thanks, I am looking into anti-estrogens which I come to find out are in pill form, correct? I don't have a inside source for these things so I am relying on Anabol pharmacy to be my goto place. I've heard good things about them. Thanks for the great info. I'll b doing more research before I start a cycle.
the sources here have all been rated and the top 7 all have great reviews go the the supplier information and read about the sources. then go the sources review section and read all the comments.. as I read about them might be good but look at there score compared to the top sources.. research and go with who you feel comfortable with.
I look for the pros and see who they review.. people that have been here a while but that is just me ... good luck
Thanks, didn't know they had a forum to this subject. I am learning. Stoked my first day off in a month. Lol
Heading on the boat for the day.
I agree!!!!!