WHAT CONSTITUTES A REVIEW??
Just for quick reference, a "review" is when ALL of the following apply:
*YOU have placed an order with THIS supplier
*YOU have received product from THIS supplier
*YOU have used the product you received from THIS supplier
*YOUR experience with that product from THIS supplier
Please don't post trivial things in the review section such as..."I placed an order"...or... "their birth control pills are gtg".... or...... "I got my shit today".
Realistically, you shouldn't be placing reviews until you can give a complete review. People are tired of hearing about how quick you got your stuff----they want to know how your stuff worked.
We will begin to gradually tighten up on reviews that are not reviews....and tighten up on people who wish to post the same message over and over again---whether it's good or bad.
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Ok so I just wanna be clear here, I have gear on way from few different sources. Should I not review the communication shipping turn around times and packaging intill I can also provide details on the actual product itself as well? Is it possible to maybe have a shipping/customer service section and then a gear quality section. I just wanna make sure i do
It right, I have no problem waitig just figured telling people about communication and shipping at one point then coming back and following up on that original review was best, but I wanna do what's right so if jt could be cleared up on what's best procedure
I would highly appreciate it! Thanks
It depends bro! If the source has very few reviews on shipping and communication then yes fill us in, if hes got 50 pages of reviews then really no we dont need to know about shipping and communcation. But its not against the rules to post so its your choice.
I could point you towards a good example.
I do agree, i think its getting out of hand, I know we have alot more members these days then when we 1st became one ourselves and even then if I made the mistake of posting a comment in the review section that wasnt a review I was quick to learn how. I even started going thru the more reputable members profiles to see how to post a proper review so I wouldnt make that mistake again. I know Im just another member here but I do care about this website as I have been here for good minute now. When going thru the reviews I would like to be able to see legit experiences with purchases and gear, but i dont want to hear anything about just the purchase! We are all suppose to be grown here and I dont care who you are if your human then you have some kind of rules to abide by in life. I look at it like this, if you dont like the rules then you dont have to be a member here, no one is forcing that on anyone. So if a mod has gotten on to you for a post "not being a review" dont be a bitch and get defensive, start doing your homework on how not to make the same mistake. There are an ass load of people who would be more than happy to help you get this thing figured out. If you like this website and wish to remain a part of it then get on your grind and play by the rules.
What needs to stop are these mindless "cheerleader" comments. If you are not the source; STOP SPEAKING FOR THE SOURCE.
Stop guaranteeing me that I'll get my order (unless you're willing to back it up). Stop gushing over the source like a preteen fawning over Justin Bieber. Stop rationalizing and excusing things that go wrong. Don't tell me that you HOPE he'll take care of a problem; tell me that he has or has not (your review can wait until there's at least an action in motion)
Give me the FACTS of what you and YOU ALONE experienced. For example:
I placed an order for Prop (date and quantity not needed for security reasons)
Communication was top notch, emails and PM's answered usually within 2 hours.
The ordering was simple, straight forward and without problems.
I received the order 5 mailing days later, no signature required, got tracking as soon as item shipped.
The packaging was Discrete (no other comments needed for security reasons)
Product was well protected, the oil clear, levels equal, sealed correctly, lot numbers check out, pictures posted...
started pinning 100mg EOD 1 week ago; strength is up, weight is up, sides are, blood test shows...
OR
I'm planning to use this during my next cycle 6 weeks from now...
yeah I think something like ebay where you have maybe 10 simple questions and our job would be to give a 1-10 score or whatever im sure you guys can think of somethng. each question could hve one to 5 stars or something , for those who did not graduate essay writing or basic composition a pre arrannged format might go well. cheers.
Why not have a feedback system like on Ebay (no marks for originality I know). You can see the overall feedback as a percentage and you can easily navigate through the good (green) indifferent (grey) bad (red). That way bad reviews don get hidden by spam and BS.
it basically is, if you look at the top of the suppliers somment box it gives you who all has voted for the supplier and what their vote was (wheather it was 3 stars or 5 stars ect.) if you want to see the comment an indivadual member has posted go to their profile and it shows what all comments they have made in the source reviews. as far as the colors thats why we have the stars, it basically tells you who rated the supplier. You know if someone rated the supplier 1 star than you will know they must of not been completely satisfied with their service. ;)
glad to read this.
The problem with an "all in one" review approach is that it would take to long to get any review for a source. This would be particularly important for a newer source. I also don't think one needs to "wait for results" for known good labs if all indications point to a non-tampered product.
It's also important to remember that most of us tend to buy at a faster rate then we use so by default you're going to see a higher proportion of "I've got mine" reviews.
It's important to know the reliability, consistency, process time, customer relations, quality of shipping, and general look and packaging (pictures) of the product.
I think there should be 2 review pages. One for the points I mention above, a second for quality of gear (based on ones personal experience -results may very)
perhaps each review page can have stars awarded
A newer source is simply going to have to wait in line and earn their dues. Besides, quick-acting compounds and various orals can yeild results fairly quickly---within a few days often times (i.e. pumps, fullness, even strength). Test Prop and D-bol are among the biggest sellers for any source.
We just simply aren't going to keep allowing the review forums to be clogged with reports of "got it quick...gtg". If we have to wait 6 weeks to hear back from you, we'll survive---and so will the source.
Thank you praise whatever it is you worship. Maybe a supercharger or a big nasty modified big block. Glad to see this happening!!
Hey Raider, what is in he $80 panel? I thought you only do Pharma? I just paid $170 for an anti aging panel. It was the only combo panel that gave me test, estradiol, IGF and Thyroid. I was concerned with all the crap talk about my HGH and Centrino's cyp (that little bit of uncertainty fucked with my head and affected my routine). I will post results Tue-Wed.
those prices are pretty accurate. A complete hormone panel for men (ie anti-aging, etc) for about $170. $50 for free test. $90 for all test levels. $60 for LH+FSH (if you are concerned about HPTA function).
Yes it was the privatemdlabs.com male anti aging panel. I wish I could find a lab that showed total test not just >1500. If I saw a test level 4325 or some shit I would be able to lift a house. LOL After "seeing" my results yesterday I set 4 new 10 rep highs. Alright 1 of them was a new exercise so it was gonna be a record anyway. LOL ;-P
Shows you how much of it is mental.
Halaluia amen brother
I'm just a pube nair from going a point taking spree and just fucking dinging every fucking idiot (noobie to vet) who doesn't post a proper review. For whatever the reason you guys just can't hear anything from the gentle nudge to the harsher verbal warnings but it is UNCANNY how you guys react when your hard earned points start to dwindle. Not a big fan of the reward/punishment system but it has worked effectively for religion and governments for thousands of years...
I think you're right....but I also think blood tests can't always show results that tell the whole story.
Blood tests are good, but we could take that one step further and ask that someone have the actual compounds lab-tested. It can costs as little $160...but I don't think that most people are going to fork it over. But to be honest, it's the best way to tell exactly what you've got on your hands. To me, it's worth $160 to KNOW that I've received a legitimate compound....to know that I've got a source that I want to deal with on a long-term basis.
But you make a good point about blood tests----EVERYONE should be running at least one blood test per cycle. Of course, we all know almost nobody is running blood tests----a sure sign of how many amateurs we have here. My next blood panel is coming up in about 10 days.
Is the $160 for HGH testing or just oils? I would gladly pay $160 if I knew where to go. At $105 for 100ius of HGH from EHP and say I was to buy 10 kits then it would still make it a bargain and I would have peace of mind too. I would also help to put a lot of the speculation to rest. If you have a good source for testing please let me know
I'll be posting my Bloodwork in a few days. I'm using the Kigs and their Centrino oils. Not to put any more doubt in anyone's mind but..... Kigs aren't on EHP's site rite now.
I've used Centrino Prop and Sustanon. My Blood tests indicated that they were well dosed. I don't really want to get into the Kigs conjecture again as without positive proof I don't think it really benefits anyone if you know what I mean.Like I say happy to get my HGH tested if I can get it done for a reasonable price though
I posted those labs.
http://www.eroids.com/pics/bloods-ehp-kigs-centrino-cyp-centrino-deca
I'd say the IGF-1 and T3 uptake are pretty conclusive on the quality of the KIGS!
My Test is >1500 also. I need to find a lab that does full Testosterone #s
So yea, I'm a happy boy. I felt bigger and stronger just reading them and look bigger in the mirror. Well worth the money, to put those doubts to rest! ;-P
Puts the "I just ordered some gear" reviews into perspective. Glad it cleared the gremlins from your mind too ;-)
Just placed another order. Bloods don't lie!
Anonthat was a great review pats
Thanks, I posted a review on EHPs page pointing to the bloods. I'll post info and the link under the steroid review page also.
Yea I know, that's why I went with the more expensive panel which includes IGF and Thyroid, which should help put this to bed either way. I liked the Prop, but dropped that lil over 1 week now along with the tbol kickstart and obviously I've noticed the drop. I don't know if I would have front loaded the Deca if I'd have been better off. The mental part is screwing with me. Once I see the #s I can shift into 3rd gear and continue with the centrino or switch labs.
Anonpeople get points for posting pics in the pic section ... post your blood work you get a point.. ;-)
tread-mI had my first prop boner without thinking about pirate sex for the first time in a year? How about, " I woke up with a semi dreaming about the food network? You know that shits g2g right? Anyway yes, the .most rediculous are those where you see someone come in and have an order in hand and already posting a bunk review in 7 days after membership.....especially for hgh! The other thing I wonder about are reviews posted that literally show the inexperience such as one I saw , "my hgh is bunk it said negative on a preg test and it mixed completly clear just like water!!!". Yeah that shit is not only unfair to the source but it is a very mixed signal for the next ten newbs and then they run around screaming bunk when their hgh mixes clear! Maybe we should find. Way to make a review include very specific comments before it can be posted. My thoughts are that you have to fill in all the blank spaces in a review so we know who made the review, their experience level , what the purchased, what they used and how long they used it as well as the end result for them. If one space was blank it would not post. This would help eliminate banter and question in reviews and help eliminate 8 reviews from the same person from the time the email was sent to next email with the sweet man and how honest he is...would go something like this and again, every spae is filled ot the page will not let it post.
First communication and response time:
Received order in _____days from order date:
Package shape and overall appearance of product:
Describe dose used of product and length used:
On cycle sides and signs of effectivness:
Compare this product to equal products you have used in the past:
Did you do bloodwork before or during or after cycle to confirm product effectivness?
What was your overall experience with the cycle in terms of meeting goal:
Would you use this source again?
List your stats and cycle experience as it pertains to this product and others:
Final comments and rating for this source:
I know it seems like a lot to deal with but something along these lines might end the BS in review and give a better picture of the person reviewing and their credibility as well as the quality of the gear if you consider their credibility to be worthy. Again, it would not allow you to post until all slots were filled....leaving the BS "hey bruh, can you PM me?" Just a thought ...hope this stays in format when I post it but I know it won't! ..no homo
You forgot the most popular review item though. Intensity and Duration of Hard On.
Anonso if it is a female.. what is she supposed to rate.. ???
Doesn't it do the same to Grrrrls? LOL ;-P
that's an excellent template for a legit an VERY useful review. Great suggestion.
This is spot on you sexy silverback. No homo....
How about you guys reply with a ,ur dumb. Then everyone will know not to look at ot haha. I posted on how hgh is sometimes faked with hcg and if it shows positive on preg test then you got hcg. I read that post your talking about, I didn't realize they claimed it negative and called bunk. That's some funny shit. Hgh ain't for the average gym rat. I hope this youth was educated by you. I still haven't considered using hgh, cause anabolics workin good and budget shortfall.
Replying "ur dumb" to a review is a problem, it doesn't really belong there. I did a post a couple weeks ago about that and maybe removing the reply button on Reviews. BFG is looking into it.
tread-mYeah I think I remember seeing that or talking about it with you or someone. Not much of a reason to have reply in there other than I'm sure its a general application for everything.
Oh that would just piss off the guys trying to post some bullshit! LMAO! I love it
I suggested a similar thing a few weeks ago. Didn't get a single response at the time. :-/ http://www.eroids.com/forum/eroids.com/feature-requests-and-ideas/source...
tread-mIts that EF HUTTON thing I guess.. : O
When tread talks people listen. Your showing your age there big guy. Fuck I think the last time that commercial aired was like 1986 or some shit. I used to see it all the time while the mom was watching the 700 club. Great post ..no homo
Originally I posted it in General Talk. However shortly after posting a member advised it should go in Website Feedback. I had my doubts as I thought it would not get seen. But I went ahead, deleted it and re-posted it.Shortly after the guy who advised me was banned over the reviews spamming scandal.Makes sense that he would want the least amount review checking as possible. It's either that or I'm turning paranoid with all these evil steroids that I have been pumping into my body LOL
AnonBFG regularly goes in there and reads that stuff.. he doesn't always read off topic or general forum posts... I prob would have moved it to website feedback as well.. I'm not saying you are paranoid.. he may have had an ulterior motive..
tread-mLmao...yeah they will drive you crazy, don't you watch the news!
Anon;-(
100% agreed. We'll have to talk to BFG to see how easy it would be to implement.
Absolutely correct Tread.
I think the other big factor in "bunk" reviews is the fact that people try to compare one cycle to another. They think that the 3rd or 4th cycle should emulate the first, when in fact they have never properly implemented a Post Cycle regimen, and may have receptors that are now saturated....and on top of that, they run the same little measly 500 mg. dose they ran before. So they in turn blame the source and tell everyone the product is no good.
I like the "form" you've laid out above...and maybe we could implement something like that.