Tren virgin…..
Ok boyz! We’ve gone 0-100 real quick from just test 150 mg a week to test and GH. Then 500 mg test c GH NPP, and current test GH npp and mast e! And dabbling in orals dbol anadrol and just starting anavar yup I know I know idiot, irresponsible, dumb. I also ride a harly without a helmet and never stay behind a vehicle. Like to cruise. In 5th gear. Ok I’m not that dumb I wear a helmet. Lol but never in my dick…. Good story! So I got in a promo and I’ve decided to try test e from test c cause I need to know what’s better as I’m in this experimental stage and now that I’m down to 17% bf from 33% 3 months ago and I’m feeling like I can feel the compounds I’m gonna stop the npp and start tren e. And that’s why I’m making this post I could use some advice on Tren E Or just Tren in general. I have caber cause I thought I needed it with npp which I don’t but I got it anyway. So what do I need to know I’ve been reading members thoughts on tren obviously I’m gonna start low and I know I don’t need to go too high but what should my test the tren ratio will be? Or at least where should I start?And what about caber? When do I need it? How do I know I need it? How do you take it? Also how long should I run it? I’ve got a vial of test e and tren e coming thru a promo and then I just made my fist order thru iron lion so I’ve got plenty test e and tren e on the way. After the tren ima start to wind down my cherry popper cycle by removing all extra compounds and doing an hrt protocol aka alittle test n gh ima do bloods here in the next week “non capped***” then one more blood about a week before I stop the tren. Any and all advice on tren please and thank you. Please keep ur feeling for my love of steroids On the sideline cause ur on a steroid forum., I mean tren was for bulls and uve done it… and I’ve done stuff that puts elephants to sleep so… again thoughts on tren?
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Don’t do it! Save it for later down the line. It’s one of the drugs that once you do it there no going back. It’s highly addictive and you’ll wanna just keep running it. There’s a couple people on here that look amazing and don’t run tren. Run the basics, diet, train and you can get to were you wanna go.
@Bill1976 Is the Bloodwork on your kidneys and creatine kinase looking bad? Is it rhabdo?
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Creatine kinases is at a 783. Doctor said it could be from muscle injury or a heart problem. I looked it up on AI but AI made me look like I was going to die. Said it could be muscular. dystrophy. I’m hoping it’s a muscle injury from being whacked from the 480 volts. That’s all I know until I see my doctor again in a few days. He’s going to draw more blood and see if it goes down. I took 6 months off of training. And I didn’t go that hard I was easing into it. But leg day I went really heavy I just hope it goes away I been downing water like crazy. I bought three cases of water and I’m almost dine with two of them now. Shit has me scared but I’m hoping for the best. I actually feel less sore today. I did wake up with bad diarrhea though but that’s easing off also
So I am guessing you did this Blood draw soon after training legs did you? If you did then that will explain it. I did a draw about 4 hours after doing deadlifts and my kinase was about 10 x fold where it should have been. They got me back in after 2 or 3 days and it was fine again, if this is also your case then don't worry thats all it is. Muscle breakdown from doing a big muscle/exercise where the figures give a false positive for rhabdo effectively. I think mine was somewhere around 4000!! I'm sure I read that Marathon runners can be up near 100,000 after running one.
I hope so. Were you so sore all over that you couldn’t pick up a glass of water?
No mate I wasn't, that does sound a little bit like rhabdo. I remember when Makwa once had it on here and he was admitted to Hospital for a short stay - he described symptoms similar to that where he was unable to walk because of it and he had to lay in bed.
Before I train I’m going to see what the doctor says. I’m hoping it was from that electrical jolt. 480 is pretty powerful. It burned my forearm. I’m thinking maybe I damaged my forearm muscle. I’m hoping that’s all it was
It could well be from that also - definitely stay off training until you see him again so your levels should have hopefully returned to normal. Otherwise if you train everything may be high again. I never give bloods unless I have a full 3 days rest beforehand otherwise a lot of things will be higher.
Tren never got me big. Only test and deca. Tren just made me strong af.
Best cycles I ever ran were HGH and testosterone. We th real IGF. I don’t have any advise on tren because I did it twice and didn’t like it. Good luck. I cant cycle at the moment. My body is breaking down muscle three times faster than it’s supposed to. Doctor is trying to figure out why
Get well soon bro
Agree with everything the guys have said below. You don’t need Tren. I’d imagine your blood work has flown the coop already with your use of orals and constantly flipping your cycle around.
You honestly should really take a long hard look at your health and doing this shit more responsibly.
Well I do not agree with the cycle you are doing I think there is a lot of stuff you need to fix before you jump on all of this gear.
Test E and Test C are basically the same except Test C half life is long by a day or two.
You are new to Tren then you should be doing Tren Ace its half life is about 3 days so if you get sides it leaves your body quicker. If you use Tren E then you have a week half life. Now since it is your first cycle Try 200g for a week and see how you do, then you can bump up to 400mg a week. I would not do more than a 6 week cycle it's horrible on the liver.
Tren ace? Because Tren e stays I. Ur system longer now that’s good a good thought. U don’t agree with the cycle cause of the difference orals? I’m guessing? Me either both the dbol and anadrol were short lived pretty sure the Anadrol was sugar pills but idk… the dbol was trash so I stopped that that after 4 weeks and the anavar I just started I didn’t just got one to the next and I’m overloaded liver supplements I mean not anything crazy but alittle more. Good thing about about this forum is 90% of the time everyone thinks their way is the best or only way and it never is experience does not always equal knowledge I know the health risks and it’s always what ur comfortable with I’m not “pushing” anything to extreme limits I’m just trying different compounds. And should I probably back off after the npp. Yes I know that. But my doses aren’t extreme as I’ve said Im not even running a gram of gear and that seems pretty standard today and I’ll back off the npp then move to the tren. As for the test c/e everyone had different opinions of it from test is test to huge difference between e/c but the one thing that’s constant between the two is u gotta try them both to know how ur body’s going to react to each. U think 200 would be a good starting place to start? That’s where u started urs? Also u like DHB as ur second compound? I have t really looked into it maybe after my break….
Ya know mate - maybe its just me becoming boring and responsible in my older age, but it makes me both sad and frustrated all these Tren posts I see going up from people who are nowhere near ever needing to run a drug as dangerous and toxic as trenbolone. Yeah you can say who am I to talk as I was once that person on here ranting on about how great it was and nothing else compared in my early years - Until the progressive training sessions turned into hospital visits all because of running that shit. Running Testosterone is one thing - but running trenbolone is a ticking time bomb especially if you find you enjoy it. I use to see all of the Kidney and dialysis stories resulting from it - the LVH and chamber thickening horror stories leading to Heart disease and Strokes in the end, ALL OF THIS IS REAL and it does and is happening . Don't just dismiss it and assume it will happen to others because it can happen to anyone.
I've just read something quite shocking regarding the Heart and running Steroid cycles - In 2021 a Study was done regarding Left Ventricular Hypertrophy temporary changes and AAS, they found that the typical LVH experienced when running a Median level AAS cycle lasting 16 weeks took 8 months on average for the LVH change to return to normal baseline levels again. Think about that guys when you think you can justify running a Trenbolone cycle.
Nah man good advice look everyone’s different and I respect ur words from what ive read that uve posted and the little we communicate. I like how u said especially if you like the compound. Scary thought liking something so bad for u. But then again I use to seek out CARfentnyl I hope it’s not my brain gravitates to the worse drugs imaginable for humans. But thanks for the words
My advice would be to leave it alone and not to venture down that path for what its worth mate.
Put it this way mate - I now have a permanently higher resting heart rate from using a lot of it, is that worth having for the rest of my life just because it made me stronger 8 years ago? NO
Stupid decisions = Stupid permanent prizes
Just made me reconsider Tren. I was thinking about running Hex, similar to this guy I’ve run all the basic things I have an interest in as a powerlifter. I just love lifting weights, but the dopamine you get just repping your old ORM is addicting regardless of how you got there and it’s not something you realize until after you already did it and you’re in your shoes.
Edit: especially if I like it, I would use it every blast and that scares me lol.
Yea press1 will do that. Good guys brain to pick on AAS.
I'm in two minds really, I've never used tren and have got in decent shape without it but for those who wish to compete - is it an essential drug? I have some in my cupboard saved for a potential prep but I'd also be curious if tren is going to be a great help in a growth phase.
Well if I had to pick a phase to place my self in it’d be growth but I was told by a reliable source that the gains are gone very quick after u stop using it. I mean I know there’s a lot of that in AAS with dbol and anadrol and things like that but why even run such a harsh compound if ur gonna get nothing out of it… it made me rethink it
Its the same scenario as taking something like Halotestin, 95% plus of people will never need it. Its one of those drugs too I feel that you wish you never tried also - because any cycle you try without it won't be quite as effective as when using it. So if you are permanently trying to better yourself then you will ALWAYS pretty much need to use it. That makes it a problem because its so bad for you. If its damaging side effects were only as bad as say Testosterone then there would be no problem, but they aren't.
I totally agree with you mate, I am not a huge fan of Tren and I am doing a cycle now but it was only because I had a hard time finding DHB and Primo has become too expensive. After this cycle I won't run it again, I dont like how bad it is for you and the sides can be horrible. I really dont think this guy should run it at all either.
I since found a good source with DHB and I bulk ordered it so there will be zero need for Tren in the future and I have ordered a lot of Mast E so thats is what I will use in the future.
Thanks for the insight, bro. I just spoke to press1 alittle and ima still give it a go. Against his snd ur advice, snd there’s a couple things press1 said that im kinda like well thats impressive af all. And I’m be sure to give my honest opinion of tren in my promo review and in the forum. But I wasn’t really asking if I should or not. That’s what this had turned into it was more what dose I should start at what’s to high how much test should I run with the tren ratio and caber intel I guess the last thing I guess I’m wondering about is the ratio to test to tren
Well just make sure your Test is higher than the Tren that is a good rule. Some other guys will disagree and say you should take less Test and those guys are just stupid. That being said, it's your first time then do 200mg of Tren and see how you feel after the week. Tren A half life is shorter so it's recommended for first time. I personally only do 400mg max of Tren a week and no more than 6 weeks. Do 400 to 450mg of Test and 300 to 400mg of Tren.. see how it goes if you get sides reduce the dosage.
Yea see I do this quite often I buy the shit then ask and that’s bassacwards have u ever needed caber on it? If so what were “your” signs hey I should take this?
I have never needed caber on it but I do have it on hand. The sign is if you libido is down and you can't get hard, its mostly decca that causes it. If you take an Ai or Serm and your nipples are still sore, it's either fake or your prolactin is high so you need caber. I personally have never needed it on Tren. You only take caber when needed its half life is several days and its very expensive.